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2013 Memberships

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Not sure what the Raiders are on but we should pretty easily pass last years total, especially considering our first home game is in two weeks time. If we win the first two games, even better.

Broncos & Storm are big disappointments.
 

Saintsified

Bench
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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ke-mockery-of-memberships-20130307-2fohp.html


SOUFFS LOL

Rugby league has an ignoble history of creative counting - fictitious crowd figures, salary cap manipulation, exaggerating injury tallies, even miscounting tackles.
Club memberships are the most recent of the code's rubbery figures. South Sydney boast they led the NRL for total members, with 22,154 for last season, and their number and that of all NRL clubs will be boosted over the next couple of weeks, the period the NRL says is busiest for buying memberships.
Across the NRL spectrum, there are senior members, child members, voting members, ticketed members and even pet members, meaning dogs, cats and even lizards can become Rabbits.
Souths say they have 173 pet memberships in response to their website offer of a $50 cut-price membership for non-humans: ''Make sure even the furry, scaly, slimy or slippery Members of your family are Members of the Rabbitohs.''.
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The Rabbitohs insist their 173-pet memberships are not counted in their official figures and volunteer that no pet memberships were sold last year. But they don't have to go to the dogs to lead the NRL because they count non-voting members under the age of 18. In Souths' report to ASIC, it lists the total membership for 2012 as 16,025, a difference of 6129 with the proclaimed figure.
A Rabbitohs spokesman explains: ''There is no fudging of membership numbers between the announced total in 2012 as 22,154 and the Member Co number in the Annual Report of 16,025.
''The Member Company is the entity which holds the 'golden share', which controls the name, colours, jersey, team song and home ground of the club. It is also the entity to which voting rights are held, hence the requirement to be over 18. No one under the age of 18 is included in this number, hence the difference between the two numbers.''
However, for some clubs, the figure given to ASIC and the propagandised one is the same. For last season, Brisbane's annual report lists a membership of 26,216, the same figure supplied to ASIC and consistent with a boast on their website on January 25: ''Last year the Broncos led the way in the NRL after posting a mark of 26,216.''
However, the NRL lists the Broncos membership at 17,561 as at February 10, well short of Souths on 22,003. Perhaps the Broncos include members of their leagues club at Red Hill, a count the Rabbitohs would never consider given the long delay in getting a beer at their renovated licensed premises at Redfern.
The Dragons, the first club to launch a membership program with their Red V appeal in 2002, are third on the NRL list with 16,314 and do not count the vast membership of their leagues club.
St George Illawarra says: ''We currently have 17,444 members committed to 'March With Us' in 2013, comprising 11,809 ticketed and 5635 non-ticketed members.''
Ticketed membership provides ticketing entitlements to Dragons home games at both playing venues - Jubilee Oval, Kogarah and WIN Stadium, Wollongong, while non-ticketed membership caters for ''True Believer'' supporters who can't regularly attend home games.
Dragons' chief executive Peter Doust makes most sense of the malleable membership figures, pointing out yield is the significant number.
Discounting tickets to games that fans would pay full price, or supplying costly benefits to boost numbers, damages the bottom line. Souths' income from membership is $3.7 million a year, compared to $350,000 some years ago.
The Dragons have more than doubled their yield in four years, from $1.061 million to $2.55 million. Souths aim for 25,000 members this year and the Dragons are aiming for 20,000 memberships.
The NRL says memberships across all clubs are up 18 per cent from last year, including every club. A spokesman says: ''The NRL membership team is doing a promotion now where they are asking fans to claim every postcode in Australia for their club, and every country in the world.''
The ARLC has also indicated it will reward clubs with increased grants for meeting targets. If this results in clubs counting Fido the dog and Felix the cat in membership figures, it's akin to AFL clubs deliberately losing games and coming last in order to be rewarded with high draft choices.

 

BunniesMan

Immortal
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Spent a lot of words saying a whole lot of nothing. Read that without understanding what point he was trying to make.

Gibberish article from a gibberer.
 

thorson1987

Coach
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I'll admit I'm not a member (the storm don't have a decent one for interstate) but in my view the official count should be split into 2. Ticketed and non ticketed.

I also believe that all clubs should join forces and allow members of the away team their choice of 3 games of which to gain entry to. (3 is just a random number I pulled out of thin air, perhaps for a larger fee you can get tickets to more away games)
 

ek999

First Grade
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Weren't Manly the first to come up with the pet memberships. I don't see the problem either it's extra money for the clubs
 

tumbidragon

First Grade
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Rugby league has an ignoble history of creative counting - fictitious crowd figures, salary cap manipulation, exaggerating injury tallies, even miscounting tackles.
Club memberships are the most recent of the code's rubbery figures. South Sydney boast they led the NRL for total members, with 22,154 for last season, and their number and that of all NRL clubs will be boosted over the next couple of weeks, the period the NRL says is busiest for buying memberships.
Across the NRL spectrum, there are senior members, child members, voting members, ticketed members and even pet members, meaning dogs, cats and even lizards can become Rabbits.
Souths say they have 173 pet memberships in response to their website offer of a $50 cut-price membership for non-humans: ''Make sure even the furry, scaly, slimy or slippery Members of your family are Members of the Rabbitohs.''.
Advertisement
The Rabbitohs insist their 173-pet memberships are not counted in their official figures and volunteer that no pet memberships were sold last year. But they don't have to go to the dogs to lead the NRL because they count non-voting members under the age of 18. In Souths' report to ASIC, it lists the total membership for 2012 as 16,025, a difference of 6129 with the proclaimed figure.
A Rabbitohs spokesman explains: ''There is no fudging of membership numbers between the announced total in 2012 as 22,154 and the Member Co number in the Annual Report of 16,025.
''The Member Company is the entity which holds the 'golden share', which controls the name, colours, jersey, team song and home ground of the club. It is also the entity to which voting rights are held, hence the requirement to be over 18. No one under the age of 18 is included in this number, hence the difference between the two numbers.''
However, for some clubs, the figure given to ASIC and the propagandised one is the same. For last season, Brisbane's annual report lists a membership of 26,216, the same figure supplied to ASIC and consistent with a boast on their website on January 25: ''Last year the Broncos led the way in the NRL after posting a mark of 26,216.''
However, the NRL lists the Broncos membership at 17,561 as at February 10, well short of Souths on 22,003. Perhaps the Broncos include members of their leagues club at Red Hill, a count the Rabbitohs would never consider given the long delay in getting a beer at their renovated licensed premises at Redfern.
The Dragons, the first club to launch a membership program with their Red V appeal in 2002, are third on the NRL list with 16,314 and do not count the vast membership of their leagues club.
St George Illawarra says: ''We currently have 17,444 members committed to 'March With Us' in 2013, comprising 11,809 ticketed and 5635 non-ticketed members.''
Ticketed membership provides ticketing entitlements to Dragons home games at both playing venues - Jubilee Oval, Kogarah and WIN Stadium, Wollongong, while non-ticketed membership caters for ''True Believer'' supporters who can't regularly attend home games.
Dragons' chief executive Peter Doust makes most sense of the malleable membership figures, pointing out yield is the significant number.
Discounting tickets to games that fans would pay full price, or supplying costly benefits to boost numbers, damages the bottom line. Souths' income from membership is $3.7 million a year, compared to $350,000 some years ago.
The Dragons have more than doubled their yield in four years, from $1.061 million to $2.55 million. Souths aim for 25,000 members this year and the Dragons are aiming for 20,000 memberships.
The NRL says memberships across all clubs are up 18 per cent from last year, including every club. A spokesman says: ''The NRL membership team is doing a promotion now where they are asking fans to claim every postcode in Australia for their club, and every country in the world.''
The ARLC has also indicated it will reward clubs with increased grants for meeting targets. If this results in clubs counting Fido the dog and Felix the cat in membership figures, it's akin to AFL clubs deliberately losing games and coming last in order to be rewarded with high draft choices

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...memberships-20130307-2fohp.html#ixzz2Mr5s6ZmE
 

AnfieldIron

Juniors
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So the jist of the article is we sold 173 pet memberships, which we didn't count towards the total, and that we count under 18, non-voting members as members, which they are.

OK......
 
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Don't get it. The article states that Souths don't count pet memberships and then the author goes on to insist they are counted... Without any proof.

A member under 18 is still a member but of course they can't be counted as voting members because they aren't old enough to vote. They are still members of the member company and pay for a ticket for the year even though its at a cut price.

If a kid goes through the gate they are still classed as part of the crowd, even if they can't go to the bar and buy a beer.
 

Saintsified

Bench
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im just taking the piss, i guess what he really means is that all NRL clubs should count their totals the same way then you can see whos leading etc...at the moment each club submits whatever they like.
 

Nemesis

Bench
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I don't f**king care if they have pet rock memberships... its all up front revenue for the club ffs. In fact membership numbers are irrelevant, it's the revenue from membership that counts and that's the way it should be reported.
 
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Sloppy work in this article.

Perhaps the Broncos include members of their leagues club at Red Hill, a count the Rabbitohs would never consider given the long delay in getting a beer at their renovated licensed premises at Redfern.

Well, you're supposed to be a journalist. What's with "perhaps"? One phone call is all it takes to clear that one up.

At any rate:

For last season, Brisbane's annual report lists a membership of 26,216, the same figure supplied to ASIC and consistent with a boast on their website on January 25

A publicly listed company isn't going to be lying to ASIC. Looks to me like the Broncs, from what is in this article, are being honest.:D
 

bartman

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The ARLC has also indicated it will reward clubs with increased grants for meeting targets. If this results in clubs counting Fido the dog and Felix the cat in membership figures, it's akin to AFL clubs deliberately losing games and coming last in order to be rewarded with high draft choices.
Actually no... it's not at all anything like that.
 

BunniesMan

Immortal
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So the jist of the article is we sold 173 pet memberships, which we didn't count towards the total, and that we count under 18, non-voting members as members, which they are.

OK......
This. We sell pet memberships for the type of people that dress their puts. If people are stupid enough to buy them we shouldn't we sell them. We don't count them as members.

Also, how dare we count under 18s as members.
 
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