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2016 Crowd Watch

taipan

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Leave them where they are. They have lost between $1.5mill-$3mill a year for alst few years in their current situation so clearly like not making money. The model they have now is meeting their failing needs and the NRL needs to lose some teams at some point to grow nationally so win-win when they fall over from lack of revenue.

And have covered all avenues with their development and future stadium plans.They own their own ground ,will get $1m min ad infinitum for rental own retail.have a couple of thousand new people living next door and ditto new Wanda developments.Will have a redeveloped Leagues club which will bring in more money with new restaurants.Record sponsorship.Will have a decent stash of cash when development concluded.12,000 plus members already .

And by comparison Perth wil have some Cash and Carry mob as sponsor,mining industry in decline ,rental of NIB,union struggling there and zero history part from the Reds.Not exactly the ideal model when competing against the entrenched Fumbleball.

But do go on Perth Red,always good for a whinge and a belly laugh.
 

Perth Red

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Ok champ here goes, last post as this is a crowd thread
Avg financial loses over last four years $2.2million per year( more than your predicted revenue from your shops)
Still Carrying a Debt of at least $5.5million despite receiving $10mill up front
Operating on one of the smallest revenues in the NRL and around $8mill a year less than the bigger clubs, no way your development is closing much of that gap
your fanbase is relatively static and no real reason to think it is going to jump beyond the current 11-12k who turn up to most games or become members.
You're just fortunate rugby league has a history of being small minded and lacking vision meaning small clubs like yours can remain relevant.

Now back to crowds. Storm crowd as expected. rainy Monday night, you reap what you sow NRL.
 

carcharias

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Ok champ here goes, last post as this is a crowd thread
Avg financial loses over last four years $2.2million per year( more than your predicted revenue from your shops)
Still Carrying a Debt of at least $5.5million despite receiving $10mill up front
Operating on one of the smallest revenues in the NRL and around $8mill a year less than the bigger clubs, no way your development is closing much of that gap
your fanbase is relatively static and no real reason to think it is going to jump beyond the current 11-12k who turn up to most games or become members.
You're just fortunate rugby league has a history of being small minded and lacking vision meaning small clubs like yours can remain relevant.

Now back to crowds. Storm crowd as expected. rainy Monday night, you reap what you sow NRL.
currently on 12089 members.

no real reason except cold hard proof that numbers have pretty much doubled in about 5 years.
Imagine when all those people move in next door to the ground and just a short walk up the road.

You having no idea what is actually happening in Cronulla wouldn't know this though.
How could you ?
You live in Perth ...another time zone with no footy team and not much hope of ever having one .


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taipan

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Ok champ here goes, last post as this is a crowd thread
Avg financial loses over last four years $2.2million per year( more than your predicted revenue from your shops)
Still Carrying a Debt of at least $5.5million despite receiving $10mill up front
Operating on one of the smallest revenues in the NRL and around $8mill a year less than the bigger clubs, no way your development is closing much of that gap
your fanbase is relatively static and no real reason to think it is going to jump beyond the current 11-12k who turn up to most games or become members.
You're just fortunate rugby league has a history of being small minded and lacking vision meaning small clubs like yours can remain relevant.

Now back to crowds. Storm crowd as expected. rainy Monday night, you reap what you sow NRL.

You lost it with"No way the development is closing that gap".The profits from the development yet to be realised will not only cover outstanding debts but still after refurbishment of the club
leave the club with money in the Bank.To be supplemented by annual retail rental.
In addition application has gone through for a further 200 units plus hotel on the site,and should that get the whistle the club will have further monies to Bank.
The Pirates will not have that sort of fallback.in a market that is flooded with fumble ball.
And further down the track a possible A League team there .will further underpin financially the club.
You do understand a refurbished club with restaurants will provide further income.

" Fanbase is static" Membership well up this year,also clubs sponsorships worth well more the year than last .It has already jumped from prior years dopey,
And taking this into account,with a stadium that ATM has little cover,but planning for stadium updates in the future.

Another thing,the Knights in a one city rl stronghold has less members than the Sharks,yet bigger crowds.

You keep looking at the past ,because it appears patently obvious you have zero idea of the future Shark's plans.And zero idea what is planned re housing and construction in the Shire.

BTW how's the Pirate's licenced leagues club and own ground going ATM?;-)

The former Broncos CEO Bruno Cullen did an audit of Cronulla's books and plans couple of years ago ASADA time.He stated (not my words or a Shark's words),based on what he has seen and taking all into account,the club should become one of the top 5 in the NRL.

Now of course we take the words of a Pommy residing across a desert ,over the comments of a respected guy like Cullen.As teh saying goes"that'll do me."

Seriously mate concentrate on your own backyard,instead of losing many backers here,because you are doing a damn good job of getting people offside.
 
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Warriors Fever

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Gonna have a crack at some crowd predictions:

MAN Vs PAR 11k
NQL Vs SOU 16k
GLD Vs STI 12.5k
CBY Vs The Blackness 20k
BRI Vs NEW 31k
CAN Vs CRO 11k
WES Vs MEL 13k
SYD Vs PEN 9.5k
 

SLRBRONCOS

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18 single seats left for the Suncorp double header. Restricted view have still not been put on sale. For over a week, stupid pricks.
 

Perth Red

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Good crowd at manly for a Thursday. Holidays probably helped boost it a bit along with a couple of thousand parra fans. The fact that the fox team were Waxing lyrical about brookvale and hoping that in ten years the sAme "opportunity" exists shows just how stuck in the past rugby league really is. Most top tier prof sports would be ashamed of seeing fixtures in antiquated grounds like that yet we continue to celebrate it lol.
 

taipan

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Good crowd at manly for a Thursday. Holidays probably helped boost it a bit along with a couple of thousand parra fans. The fact that the fox team were Waxing lyrical about brookvale and hoping that in ten years the sAme "opportunity" exists shows just how stuck in the past rugby league really is. Most top tier prof sports would be ashamed of seeing fixtures in antiquated grounds like that yet we continue to celebrate it lol.


Ladies and gentlemen at little expense, we are indeed proud to present for the 3 millionth time one who has become a favourite of ours,the one and only perpetual whiner:.The Pest from the West.The Negator from the Nullarbor.
The Sun is shining today ,but wait ruination ,there is a dastardly cloud temporarily blocking the warmth.


What Brookvale showed,give them a decent stadium there with seating and stands for 20,000,and they would go close to filling it week after week.
 

bazza

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What Brookvale showed,give them a decent stadium there with seating and stands for 20,000,and they would go close to filling it week after week.
How did just under 15,000 people turning up to one game in a rundown ground show that they would get 20,000 10 times a year in a decent ground?
 

carcharias

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How did just under 15,000 people turning up to one game in a rundown ground show that they would get 20,000 10 times a year in a decent ground?

or stick Manly at Homebush and watch them get cheered on by thousands of plastic seats.
 

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