2017 Crowd Watch

[Billythekid]

Great crowd in Penrith and really good crowd for the sharks as well.

In terms of the finals whilst we won't be seeing many massive crowds I think it looks alright. The sharks and panthers will sellout the first week which will look great on TV. The storm should get 20K+ for both games which will look and sound awesome. The broncos will get 40K+ for their home game whenever it happens.

That leaves the roosters and parra with home matches. Depending who they face the crowds could be pretty decent.

Yeah funny that ,we've been playing the most inconsistent and dumb times football this year,yet got 17,000 plus to the game.Must be something about our backyard ,having thousands prepared to stand in discomfort to a watch team playing like park footballers at times.And they don't need the viking clap to do it.

Give me a f**king break. Look I agree with you, that was a damn good crowd at shark park and it would be awesome if we saw crowds like that week in week out from other clubs. The excuse that the sharks form is a problem getting fans to attend though is laughable.

The sharks are the reigning premiers and will finish in 5th place. They're one of the favourites to win the comp (IMO one of only 2 teams who can take down the storm on the big day IMO). On any given day the sharks can beat any team. They haven't been at their best every week but they've had a pretty damn good year and more than good enough to give the fans plenty to cheer for.

It's a common excuse and is total bullshit. Basically if a team isn't in the top 4 and on a win streak you'll have people claiming that their form is turning away fans.

Hell we can't crack 20,000 at the SFS/Titans/Storm/Canberra with all their seating.

Yeah if you ignore the 20K crowds that have been seen at all of those venues. Pretty sure between now and the end of the NRL season we'll see 2-3 games pass that mark at those grounds you listed.

The benefit of having a bit of extra capacity is you can get more for big games which boosts your average. So whilst not every game will reach 20K+ the ones that do can boost that clubs average. Also if the ground is a quality one like AAMI park even sub 20K look and sound fantastic.

Personally though I don't have a problem with shark park. I'd rather all grounds have at least 20K capacity but shark park is pretty close. Grounds like brookvale are more of an issue. If every club played out of shark park it might be an issue but having one club play in a ground like that is perfectly fine.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

bring on 2018... u can really tell the nrl is in the last year of a media deal..limping to the line

 

[Billythekid]

bring on 2018... u can really tell the nrl is in the last year of a media deal..limping to the line

Despite all the negativity this year I think we'll start to see big changes next year. The NRL taking over the draw should be a HUGE advantage for crowds. I also think the poor crowds this year particularly in Sydney have shined a light on the issue and is going to make the NRL react (whatever the reason for the poor crowds is irrelevant).

I think next year we'll see some big strides forward and the new stadiums over the next 5-10 years will have a massive impact. Whilst it has been a shit year and I think we're being run by muppets I do think there are great times ahead for the code.

Also I think next year will show that good crowds can equal good ratings. The big Sydney derbies played on Sunday arvo or Friday night in front of big crowds will also be huge ratings winners. Hopefully we can finally put to bed the bullshit narrative that crowds and ratings can't go together.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Despite all the negativity this year I think we'll start to see big changes next year. The NRL taking over the draw should be a HUGE advantage for crowds. I also think the poor crowds this year particularly in Sydney have shined a light on the issue and is going to make the NRL react (whatever the reason for the poor crowds is irrelevant).

I think next year we'll see some big strides forward and the new stadiums over the next 5-10 years will have a massive impact. Whilst it has been a shit year and I think we're being run by muppets I do think there are great times ahead for the code.

Also I think next year will show that good crowds can equal good ratings. The big Sydney derbies played on Sunday arvo or Friday night in front of big crowds will also be huge ratings winners. Hopefully we can finally put to bed the bullshit narrative that crowds and ratings can't go together.

Agreed, there are good signs ahead... you can just tell this year was a rushed 1 year media deal with fox and nine.. the friday 6pm game just chucked in with no thought to scheduling the right games for it.. channel 9 basically pissed at losing a friday lead in, scheduled a lot of FU games in spite... without much thought, just the usual (1x big 5 sydney club v 1 x qld team) logarithm ..

NRL have a chance to do something in 2018 ... can we please have a crack.. be smart.. give us something not to be ashamed of ffs

 

[M2D2]

Give me a f**king break. Look I agree with you, that was a damn good crowd at shark park and it would be awesome if we saw crowds like that week in week out from other clubs. The excuse that the sharks form is a problem getting fans to attend though is laughable.

The sharks are the reigning premiers and will finish in 5th place. They're one of the favourites to win the comp (IMO one of only 2 teams who can take down the storm on the big day IMO). On any given day the sharks can beat any team. They haven't been at their best every week but they've had a pretty damn good year and more than good enough to give the fans plenty to cheer for.

It's a common excuse and is total bullshit. Basically if a team isn't in the top 4 and on a win streak you'll have people claiming that their form is turning away fans.
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Go look at our home record you nufty.

 

[Teddyboy]

Swear 3/4 the crowd left at half time


Penrith stadium was full at kick off

It's like god is likes punishing Rugby League

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

This is the sequence of events.A lil ole club is involved with a $400m development.One that includes a redeveloped Leagues clubs and retail development bringing in $1m pa rental.In addition to that in front of the DPA ATM for assessment is an additional hotel and an additional 200 units.The club will be getting profits from about 400 units already being built, plus no doubt these additional if they get the go ahead.
You get money behind you ,and ATM the club is looking at a Cof E. and stadiums become a reality if you wish to grow the club.Simples.

Now a former Broncos CEO who spent a couple of months looking at the plans and financials in the club, at the time of the ASADA drama, stated in his view this lil ole club should end up being among the top 5 clubs in the game as a financial power.

It doesnt matter how good the facilities are if transport in and out is the same...

You said yourself, people complained about the congestion. Is anyone surprised that a suburb that barely has the roads for its local residents, struggles when 20k extras turn up for a football game?

Say what you like about Homebush, its designed for 100k to turn up with space to spare.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

And yet they do.

Yep, in the same numbers that were turning up in the 60s...

Its a models restricted for the hard-core fans and we act surprised when we only get 10-13k to games.

 

[Billythekid]

Go look at our home record you nufty.

You're the current defending premiers, in 5th place and one of the favourites for the comp. you're record for the season is 14 wins and 9 losses (likely to be 15 wins). Is a 6/6 home record so ahockingly bad as to turn away fans?

It's so hard to tell who's serious and who's just trying to troll in this thread. It's not like the crowd needs defending anyway, it was practically a sellout so you don't need to trot out these awful excuses.

 

[M2D2]

You're the current defending premiers, in 5th place and one of the favourites for the comp. you're record for the season is 14 wins and 9 losses (likely to be 15 wins). Is a 6/6 home record so ahockingly bad as to turn away fans?

It's so hard to tell who's serious and who's just trying to troll in this thread. It's not like the crowd needs defending anyway, it was practically a sellout so you don't need to trot out these awful excuses.

We arent 6/6.

 

[Raiderdave]

And both got bigger crowds than Canberra this weekend ,despite not having all seater stadiums.

Penrith have the biggest junior league in the country.Of course that wouldn't have anything to do with it.

Yeah $400m development gives you a hell of a lot of mutton and lamb down the line.And not reliant on poker machines BTW.

both have lower averages despite one being the premiers both both playing finals football too

some mint sauce for this mutton please lol

 

[Billythekid]

We arent 6/6.

Sorry 5/7 I miscounted. Doesn't remotely change my response or make the excuse any less ridiculous.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Go look at our home record you nufty.

I think this wins "worst excuse ive ever heard" award...

Ive herd some clangers, but "we are on track for a 2nd gf in 2 years, but our home average was slightly below 50/50"

Have you eve considered that you just dob have that many fans willing to turn up?

 

[Perth Red]

Cant believe I'm going to stick up for the Sharks but tbf to them they have had 3 Thursday night games this year and they have a sht ground which means if weather isn't perfect you are going to see a big drop in those willing to attend.

Its a shame they haven't been able to really ramp up their good time slots as they showed in the 20k crowd game that some out of the box thinking and alternative attraction will get people along to a game.

 

[adamkungl]

haha what kind of soft merkin doesn't show up because of a poor home record

 

[taipan]

Great crowd in Penrith and really good crowd for the sharks as well.

In terms of the finals whilst we won't be seeing many massive crowds I think it looks alright. The sharks and panthers will sellout the first week which will look great on TV. The storm should get 20K+ for both games which will look and sound awesome. The broncos will get 40K+ for their home game whenever it happens.

That leaves the roosters and parra with home matches. Depending who they face the crowds could be pretty decent.



Give me a f**king break. Look I agree with you, that was a damn good crowd at shark park and it would be awesome if we saw crowds like that week in week out from other clubs. The excuse that the sharks form is a problem getting fans to attend though is laughable.

The sharks are the reigning premiers and will finish in 5th place. They're one of the favourites to win the comp (IMO one of only 2 teams who can take down the storm on the big day IMO). On any given day the sharks can beat any team. They haven't been at their best every week but they've had a pretty damn good year and more than good enough to give the fans plenty to cheer for.

It's a common excuse and is total bullshit. Basically if a team isn't in the top 4 and on a win streak you'll have people claiming that their form is turning away fans.



Yeah if you ignore the 20K crowds that have been seen at all of those venues. Pretty sure between now and the end of the NRL season we'll see 2-3 games pass that mark at those grounds you listed.

The benefit of having a bit of extra capacity is you can get more for big games which boosts your average. So whilst not every game will reach 20K+ the ones that do can boost that clubs average. Also if the ground is a quality one like AAMI park even sub 20K look and sound fantastic.

Personally though I don't have a problem with shark park. I'd rather all grounds have at least 20K capacity but shark park is pretty close. Grounds like brookvale are more of an issue. If every club played out of shark park it might be an issue but having one club play in a ground like that is perfectly fine.

Have a look at the schedule when we played the Storm.Thursday night real family friendly and how many Storm fans made the trip up?They played the Cows on a Thursday night how many did they bring?
The biggest local derby was against the Dragons on a Sunday 6-30pm ,within the first 2 months of the football season in Sydney,the wettest on record.The same period involved a home match against the Broncs.
People are not going to sit or stand on a wet hill, which was packed last sat night in fine weather against the Roosters.Proving my point about scheduling in particular.
Penrith also proved my point about scheduling.If you know the areas, you get to know the best times to maximise patronage.
Therefore my point here is not on the club's efforts this year but scheduling the main and sh*tty whether a big factor earlier,And you're telling me scheduling doesn't play a huge part, with crap weather?
Thus the ground itself is not the final issue, but the ability to get families and people who actually work to the ground based on a decent schedule.

Yeah they've won about 2 home games this years great record for Premiers.
They still have sold the overwhelming majority of their seats during the year.
And how are your hill areas going in the wet BTW in Melbourne?

 

[Perth Red]

Melbourne's a modern city, its sporting facilities don't have hill areas lol Probably one of the reasons their crowds have grown significantly.

ps this out of town thing is BS, you shouldn't need to rely on other clubs fans to fill your ground.

 

[taipan]

both have lower averages despite one being the premiers both both playing finals football too

some mint sauce for this mutton please lol

Ha ha.Just checked scheduling this year and note (and I could be wrong),the Raiders do not appear to have had any Thursday night games.You know these mid week not family friendly nights .

The Sharks had 3 Thursday nighters all involving interstate teams,Broncos/Cows/Storm.I mean their fans filled planes to get there.The NRL gives a crappy schedule to the Premiers to please the TV mob.

Considering the seating for Penrith and Sharks to Bruce ,so the Raiders should be selling more seating and bigger averages.There's not much else to do in the area.And of course the rental needs to be paid for a non owned GIO stadium.

The mutton tastes great without the mint sauce,gettinbg into the semi gives it that extra flavour.

 

[taipan]

It doesnt matter how good the facilities are if transport in and out is the same...

You said yourself, people complained about the congestion. Is anyone surprised that a suburb that barely has the roads for its local residents, struggles when 20k extras turn up for a football game?

Say what you like about Homebush, its designed for 100k to turn up with space to spare.

So if scheduling is crap,having 3 Thursday night games against interstate teams,two of which played in the wettest Autumn for 10 years,in and out transport has little to do with it.
The crowd on Saturday night in fine weather was 17,280,with live FTA ,the congestion is on the hill, (not the roads) but being time friendly, and decent weather people, came in their droves.
If it had been a Thursday night, you fill in the blanks as to the crowd.......,plus throw in the extremes of early Autumn.

And a 6-30pm Sunday night game there for the local derby against the dragons, only an idiot would have dreamt up that timing.
You get stuff all fans from those Interstate clubs.

It has a hell of a lot to do with facilities,for example if ANZ was already rectangular with decent cover, you telling me the crowds would not be better.You telling me a new Parra stadium is not going to improve crowds?
The problem with Homebush is currently multiple,crap stadium, poor performing teams such as Souths/Dogs and Tigers,crap scheduling to ensure people won't travel by road in numbers to get there.

 

[Raiderdave]

The sharks and panthers will sellout the first week which will look great on TV.


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ahhhhh
I think you're forgetting that both the Sharks & Penrith will have to play their finals in week one at either Allianz or ANZ
not a chance in hell of either final being anywhere near sold out at either venue Id think