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2018 Crowd Watch

Billythekid

First Grade
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Good crowd in Canberra, could have easily been so much worse.

It's up to Sydney now. 3 games this weekend and they're all local derbies. The dragons are the only one I'm confident of seeing a good crowd for.

19k sold as of today. Can’t see it selling out given it can fit 30K but 25 would be a great result and fantastic atmosphere.

Which given their form you would have to think would have been achieveable without a double header. The question is how much does the second game actually attract in NZ? I've got no idea personally. I kinda feel like the crowd would really rest on warriors fans and would depend on their form.

Overall I think the double header idea has been a bit of hit and miss. I'm not a huge fan of the idea outside of certain situations (Perth made a sense).

For Sydney I'd much rather a match of the round played on a Sunday each week which should be heavily advertised to get people in the habit of going.
 
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Mate I don’t to want to sound like a sharks fan bagging out the Dragons
But
A few years ago I had to deal with the Dragons sales dept.
It was for an old couple
Life long st George fans
It was for the old fellas birthday which I mentioned to them when organising it.
I bought them tix that included dinner and speeches from the coach prior to the game etc etc
It was not cheap either.
They asked me to give them some info about the old fella so they can give a shoutout to him during the speeches.

Anyway On the Monday morning after the game I got an abusive email from them saying I made the speaker look like a fool.

He apparently mentioned the old bloke during the speech and tried to find him the crowd.

The thing is they’d stuck him and his wife on a table way off to the side behind a huge pylon.
They both were putting their hands up and calling out .
Nobody could see them.
They’d even been forgotten about during the dinner service.
Everyone had finished before they got anything to eat.

The old guy (who might I add) has a very high standing in the community and was himself a very famous athlete.
Represented Australia.
He went to school with Norm Provan.
Was mortified when the speaker made a disparaging remark about him when they couldn’t find him.
He was there and he heard every word.

Then the email came.
I showed the guys daughter and she asked me to let it go.
I did.

That organisation can go and get well and truely f**ked AFAIAC

That's shit alright.

I've held jobs in engagement and marketing in the community sector. One of the most degrading things I've ever seen was a fully cognisant but non-verbal young man with a severe physical disability have a Souths beanie slapped on him for a photo as he thrashed wildly (he was a big Wests or Parra fan if I recall) while someone associated with SouthsCares patronisingly said "look how much he loves it." He was made a Souths member that season.

A young woman that I had a bit to do with was a Cronulla fan (against the wishes of her Saints mad father). Your club in all their charity had organised her to meet a high profile player. Well, that player never made it, no explanation was given and this young woman died 2 months later. Cystic fibrosis is a truly awful disease.

Anyway, that was a dark segue from what was essentially a comment on the amateurish nature of NRL membership departments.

Lessons.
1. Poor organising and well meaning misunderstandings should not conflated with malice.
2. Get off ya high horse.
 
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That's shit alright.

I've held jobs in engagement and marketing in the community sector. One of the most degrading things I've ever seen was a fully cognisant but non-verbal young man with a severe physical disability have a Souths beanie slapped on him for a photo as he thrashed wildly (he was a big Wests or Parra fan if I recall) while someone associated with SouthsCares patronisingly said "look how much he loves it." He was made a Souths member that season.

A young woman that I had a bit to do with was a Cronulla fan (against the wishes of her Saints mad father). Your club in all their charity had organised her to meet a high profile player. Well, that player never made it, no explanation was given and this young woman died 2 months later. Cystic fibrosis is a truly awful disease.

Anyway, that was a dark segue from what was essentially a comment on the amateurish nature of NRL membership departments.

Lessons.
1. Poor organising and well meaning misunderstandings should not conflated with malice.
2. Get off ya high horse.

I really, really like this bloke now more than ever
 

SpaceMonkey

Immortal
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Double headers not selling out is a bad look for nrl, look at that pathetic anz double header.

Not really. It’s all about how it compares to a normal crowd. If Mt Smart gets 25k tomorrow it will have probably added 50-60% to the standalone crowd and the stadium will be 80%+ full, which is a good look. Way better than two half full stadiums even if it itactuslly means 5-10k less in total numbers.
 

Stallion

First Grade
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The Bears going to Gosford is a terrible idea. No one will support them up here. I haven't met a bears fan in my 10 years here and I see hundreds of people a day at work. Everyone has a team already.

Much better to play games here throughout the year and offer special membership for existing clubs and maybe have travel included in their tickets.

We have enough teams here. I don't want any kicked out but expansion should come from outside NSW. We can grow NSW rugby league with proper promotion.

If you seriously think the NSW competition is a drawcard think again! Footy fans and the general public do not relate to 2nd rate comps. Some games will have an attraction with a good marketing angle.But they will never be a substitute for top-flight NRL competition. It just doesn't win in the local pub argument test when talking footy. Simple as that. But some of you think it will magically fill in the void created by the dilution of top flight rugby-league in the three regions we are discussing.
 
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AlwaysGreen

Post Whore
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If you seriously think the NSW competition is a drawcord tho know again! Footy fans and the general do not relate to 2nd rate comps. Some games will hAve an attraction with a good marketing angle bit the on petition itself will never be a substitute for top-flight NRL competition. It just doesn't win in the local pub argum entry when talking footy. Simple as that. But some of you think it will magically fill in the void created by the dilution of top flight rugby-league in the three regions we are discussing.
Are you sure you're a teacher! Your writing is imploding! Not a good look for the young kids! The people I spoke to don't want bad grammar to dilute their game!
 

OldPanther

Coach
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If you seriously think the NSW competition is a drawcord tho know again! Footy fans and the general do not relate to 2nd rate comps. Some games will hAve an attraction with a good marketing angle bit the on petition itself will never be a substitute for top-flight NRL competition. It just doesn't win in the local pub argum entry when talking footy. Simple as that. But some of you think it will magically fill in the void created by the dilution of top flight rugby-league in the three regions we are discussing.

There are ways to grow the game in an area other than having a team there. We can't have a team in every area, it's not financially viable.
 

Stallion

First Grade
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There are ways to grow the game in an area other than having a team there. We can't have a team in every area, it's not financially viable.

It's not having a team everywhere! It's catering to a population that is underserviced by top flight rugby league. That's not everywhere. In the big scheme of things ten top flight rugby league clubs in three regions with growing populations is not everywhere. It is prudent spreading and catering to the underserviced market place which adores this internationally repressed code. Keep the locals happy and grow the game with additional clubs is the way to go. Not weakening the code in its original area.
 
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OldPanther

Coach
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It's not having a team everywhere! It's catering to a population that is underserviced by top flight rugby league. That's not ever where. On the big scheme of things ten top flight rugby league clubs in three regions with growing populations is not everywhere. It is prudent spreading and catering to the underserviced market place which adores this intetnationally repressed code. Keep the locals happy and grow the game with additional clubs is the way to go. Not weakening the code in its original area.

I agree that NSW is important but we need to start taking some other states as well.
 

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