2018 Crowd Watch

[Stallion]

Yes you are correct as usual.The 12,386 crowd at the Storm 6pm game(the only NRL team) in a city of nearly 5mil is just such an example.In a stadium that is brand new all seater LOL.And this from a club doing consistently well.

Very apt and salient point. This is what has been consintently ignored by the comments aimed at reducing the much loved and well known Sydney based clubs. Not only is the Sydney population one million more than Melbourne, the relevance, rivalry and significance earnt over many decades is eradicated/damaged by divisive and code weakening rhetoric PR and others so consistently promote.

 

[Raiderdave]

Out of all the joint venture mergers the St George Illawarra one has worked best. Their were a few advantages from the outset. Same colours, a well established and famously succesful club with a relatively new club and a historical player association link over many generations. So out of the mergers this one would work best.

yes
& what has that got to do with what I said ?

 

[Clifferd]

but the “derby” is the St George district vs The Shire. There is no Wollongong/Shire rivalry. It would have gotten 19-20k sellout at Kogarah. But still, good crowd

Somehow I doubt that

Dragons only got 16.8k at kogarah v souffs last week, another big rival

 

[Saint Doc]

Somehow I doubt that

Dragons only got 16.8k at kogarah v souffs last week, another big rival

Nowhere near as big of a rival.

Dragons big rivals are Sharks and Dogs. That is where the hatred is.

 

[Stallion]

yes
& what has that got to do with what I said ?

Plenty. It's stating that this joint venture is being embraced better than others. And there are tangible reasons for this. The crowd was good despite it being played in Wollongong. So things are going well for both St George and Illawarra.

 

[The Vaulting Violinist]

Cows will struggle for a crowd today, methane levels increased by 0.9% last Thursday in the third cubicle at Townsville kfc

 

[Burns]

Hoping for 20,000 in NZ today, expecting around 17,000. Ticket sales look very very good, but it might be like the Titans game when it didn’t translate 100% into attendance.

Next week against St George though, oh my.

 

[Pommy]

Hoping for 20,000 in NZ today, expecting around 17,000. Ticket sales look very very good, but it might be like the Titans game when it didn’t translate 100% into attendance.

Next week against St George though, oh my.

Really hoping Warriors get a result this weekend and that game is as big as it looks to be.

 

[Raiderdave]

Plenty. It's stating that this joint venture is being embraced better than others. And there are tangible reasons for this. The crowd was good despite it being played in Wollongong. So things are going well for both St George and Illawarra.

well they're broke , so that's a problem for starters so they're not going as well as they could
& the crowd was good as it should be , the derby is between the 2 sthn districts in Sydney
not Wollongong
end of

 

[Stallion]

well they're broke , so that's a problem for starters so they're not going as well as they could
& the crowd was good as it should be , the derby is between the 2 sthn districts in Sydney
not Wollongong
end of

? Money may help however it's not the be all and all for a football club. Cultural acceptance and significance are good things. I tend to agree with your location logic . However this joint venture is the best of the ones that have been tried.

 

[Stallion]

Hoping for 20,000 in NZ today, expecting around 17,000. Ticket sales look very very good, but it might be like the Titans game when it didn’t translate 100% into attendance.

Next week against St George though, oh my.

If weather is ok in Auckland I think 20000 plus is achievable. Here's hoping.

 

[dangerousdave]

but the “derby” is the St George district vs The Shire. There is no Wollongong/Shire rivalry. It would have gotten 19-20k sellout at Kogarah. But still, good crowd

Kogarah doesn't hold that much.

 

[Clifferd]

Nowhere near as big of a rival.

Dragons big rivals are Sharks and Dogs. That is where the hatred is.

Eh

I don’t think that counts for much considering Souffs are a much bigger club than Cronulla & are only really up the road from kogarah

Still stand by my point that it wouldn’t have drew much more/ if any more than if it was held at kogarah last night

 

[Perth Red]

Yes you are correct as usual.The 12,386 crowd at the Storm 6pm game(the only NRL team) in a city of nearly 5mil is just such an example.In a stadium that is brand new all seater LOL.And this from a club doing consistently well.

And that’s the point, if we lose the “can’t make money from crowds so might as well take it from tv” mentality the game wouldnt accept dumb time slots for games. Melbourne will never grow to 25k crowds having to play games on a Friday night at 6pm, no matter how good the stadium or size of population. We take the tv money shrug shoulders and say well what can you expect when crowds continue to stagnate and go nowhere.

The last strat plan had a target of a 20k avg. it failed massively to achieve it, not because it was unrealistic target but because it did nothing to reach it.

 

[M2D2]

Eh

I don’t think that counts for much considering Souffs are a much bigger club than Cronulla & are only really up the road from kogarah

Still stand by my point that it wouldn’t have drew much more/ if any more than if it was held at kogarah last night

As someone who has lived in St George area all my life. The idea that Dogs is more of a rival than souths is a joke. The only reason he thinks that is because of the clashes OUTSIDE the stadium, rather than in it.

 

[Mister M]

Yes you are correct as usual.The 12,386 crowd at the Storm 6pm game(the only NRL team) in a city of nearly 5mil is just such an example.In a stadium that is brand new all seater LOL.And this from a club doing consistently well.

Melbourne will never grow to 25k crowds having to play games on a Friday night at 6pm, no matter how good the stadium or size of population.

Every time Storm get an average home crowd people make comments that it's a one-NRL team city of nearly 5million people with a good stadium that's centrally located.

But Perth Red is right, you are never going to grow this EXPANSION market if you treat them poorly.

Storm have thad three home games for the season so far, with only one of those being at fan friendly time slots... a Saturday night game back in Round 2.

The past two home games were a Thursday night that clashed with ROUND 1 of the AFL, where there was 90,000 fans across the road from AAMI Park and then a 6pm Friday game.

I know people will respond and say "but Melbourne has a good centrally located ground that people can walk to from the CBD". These people obviously have no idea of the type of people that make up the majority of the Storm fanbase. The Storm fans aren't typically the 'CBD working, business suit' types that live in the Inner suburbs of Melbourne. Melbourne's supporters are typically the hard working, middle class that are living in the outer suburbs (all of our Junior RL clubs are 20km+ away from the city) with big fan bases in places like Melton, Broadmedows, Cranbourne, etc.

A 6pm timeslot is horrible for these fans and horrible for the growth of the game in Victoria.

Locations like Melbourne are where the NRL should be looking at growing the crowd attendance, so should be fixturing the Storm's games around that. I'm sure most people on here would agree that crowd attendance in Sydney will still be average no matter what the NRL does to change it-- but small changes can make a BIG difference to a growth market like Melbourne.

 

[Raiderdave]

very average day down here in the national capital weather wise
grey
cool
& very , very windy

hopefully it settles down for tonight

 

[Draft]

Hoping for 20,000 in NZ today, expecting around 17,000. Ticket sales look very very good, but it might be like the Titans game when it didn’t translate 100% into attendance.

Next week against St George though, oh my.

Reckon we'll be lucky if they get 15K to the game today. We've had a storm here all week and it's torrential outside again today.

 

[Raiderdave]

Reckon we'll be lucky if they get 15K to the game today. We've had a storm here all week and it's torrential outside again today.

been watching the NSW intrust premiership game live for the last hour from mt smart

its not sunny
but its not raining either

 

[Warriors Fever]

Nowhere near as big of a rival.

Dragons big rivals are Sharks and Dogs. That is where the hatred is.

To be fair kogorah is getting to host the tigers and the dogs this season, so I think letting the gong have the sharks is a fair move and the people responded with their feet. I’ve said it before but I really like what st merge are doing with their home games this season. Should be a great year crowd wise for them.