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2018 Crowd Watch

Raiderdave

First Grade
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To be fair kogorah is getting to host the tigers and the dogs this season, so I think letting the gong have the sharks is a fair move and the people responded with their feet. I’ve said it before but I really like what st merge are doing with their home games this season. Should be a great year crowd wise for them.

give the gong , the Tigers or Dogs game & leave the derby game for Kogarah
its a Sydney thing.
 

Springs09

Juniors
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1,903
Every time Storm get an average home crowd people make comments that it's a one-NRL team city of nearly 5million people with a good stadium that's centrally located.

But Perth Red is right, you are never going to grow this EXPANSION market if you treat them poorly.

Storm have thad three home games for the season so far, with only one of those being at fan friendly time slots... a Saturday night game back in Round 2.

The past two home games were a Thursday night that clashed with ROUND 1 of the AFL, where there was 90,000 fans across the road from AAMI Park and then a 6pm Friday game.

I know people will respond and say "but Melbourne has a good centrally located ground that people can walk to from the CBD". These people obviously have no idea of the type of people that make up the majority of the Storm fanbase. The Storm fans aren't typically the 'CBD working, business suit' types that live in the Inner suburbs of Melbourne. Melbourne's supporters are typically the hard working, middle class that are living in the outer suburbs (all of our Junior RL clubs are 20km+ away from the city) with big fan bases in places like Melton, Broadmedows, Cranbourne, etc.

A 6pm timeslot is horrible for these fans and horrible for the growth of the game in Victoria.

Locations like Melbourne are where the NRL should be looking at growing the crowd attendance, so should be fixturing the Storm's games around that. I'm sure most people on here would agree that crowd attendance in Sydney will still be average no matter what the NRL does to change it-- but small changes can make a BIG difference to a growth market like Melbourne.

6pm Friday timeslots are horrible for everyone. I can't imagine they are great for TV viewers either? I don't think I've ever been able to see more than half of a Friday 6pm game.
 

Valheru

Coach
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To be fair kogorah is getting to host the tigers and the dogs this season, so I think letting the gong have the sharks is a fair move and the people responded with their feet. I’ve said it before but I really like what st merge are doing with their home games this season. Should be a great year crowd wise for them.

Should have been swapped with tigers game. It is an easy trip from campbelltown to wollongong.
 
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taipan

Referee
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22,500
And that’s the point, if we lose the “can’t make money from crowds so might as well take it from tv” mentality the game wouldnt accept dumb time slots for games. Melbourne will never grow to 25k crowds having to play games on a Friday night at 6pm, no matter how good the stadium or size of population. We take the tv money shrug shoulders and say well what can you expect when crowds continue to stagnate and go nowhere.

The last strat plan had a target of a 20k avg. it failed massively to achieve it, not because it was unrealistic target but because it did nothing to reach it.


Well get rid of the Storm, and move them to Perth.Problem solved.

Now ch9 have lost the cricket, channel 10 have nothing except a shagging session between spinsters and bachelors ,they may be so desperate to grab the NRL ,that the NRL said you can have it but stuff the 6pm starts.
Hell could only get 10,000 for an Eel's game on a Sunday.

Ask yourself without the TV monies negotiated ,where would the majority of clubs be,regardless of time slots.Up the famous creek without a paddle.
 

taipan

Referee
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22,500
Every time Storm get an average home crowd people make comments that it's a one-NRL team city of nearly 5million people with a good stadium that's centrally located.

But Perth Red is right, you are never going to grow this EXPANSION market if you treat them poorly.

Storm have thad three home games for the season so far, with only one of those being at fan friendly time slots... a Saturday night game back in Round 2.

The past two home games were a Thursday night that clashed with ROUND 1 of the AFL, where there was 90,000 fans across the road from AAMI Park and then a 6pm Friday game.

I know people will respond and say "but Melbourne has a good centrally located ground that people can walk to from the CBD". These people obviously have no idea of the type of people that make up the majority of the Storm fanbase. The Storm fans aren't typically the 'CBD working, business suit' types that live in the Inner suburbs of Melbourne. Melbourne's supporters are typically the hard working, middle class that are living in the outer suburbs (all of our Junior RL clubs are 20km+ away from the city) with big fan bases in places like Melton, Broadmedows, Cranbourne, etc.

A 6pm timeslot is horrible for these fans and horrible for the growth of the game in Victoria.

Locations like Melbourne are where the NRL should be looking at growing the crowd attendance, so should be fixturing the Storm's games around that. I'm sure most people on here would agree that crowd attendance in Sydney will still be average no matter what the NRL does to change it-- but small changes can make a BIG difference to a growth market like Melbourne.


Look I agree about the sh*t 6 pm time slot.
What I find nauseating is PR's constant harping on about clubs with 12,000 averages in Sydney.
When the dopes scheduled the local Dragons vSharks derby for a Thursday night, every man ,dero,and drover's dog knew the crowd would be far less than a sunday afternoon.

I cannot see how having a 6pm Friday time slot is beneficial for Fox in term of ratings ,,they'd get similar on a Sunday afternoon IMO.
 

Saint Doc

Coach
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I cannot see how having a 6pm Friday time slot is beneficial for Fox in term of ratings ,,they'd get similar on a Sunday afternoon IMO.

It’s more about the lead-in to Friday night footy. They hope people tune in at 6pm (or 6.30, or 7.00) and then stay on fox instead of switching to 9
 

ReddFelon

Juniors
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I cannot see how having a 6pm Friday time slot is beneficial for Fox in term of ratings ,,they'd get similar on a Sunday afternoon IMO.

This is actually one of the things bringing in a WA team would help fix. The two hour time difference would mean you could have a game on the east coast at 7 and a game on the west coast also at 7 (locally) keeping the two games for Friday's but spreading the time around. Similarly they should already be making use of New Zealand to fill the first Friday slot, making it a 5:45 game but 7:45 locally.
 

taipan

Referee
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22,500
This is actually one of the things bringing in a WA team would help fix. The two hour time difference would mean you could have a game on the east coast at 7 and a game on the west coast also at 7 (locally) keeping the two games for Friday's but spreading the time around. Similarly they should already be making use of New Zealand to fill the first Friday slot, making it a 5:45 game but 7:45 locally.

Fair enough.6pm is rubbish for working people in the city, wanting to take their family.The extra hour give them some chance.
When Slothfield starting bagging crowds ,mI reminded him on email, if it wasn't for that dumb 6pm slot,teh NRL might be on the right side of the ledger.He naturally did not respond.
Probably too busy checking, if he had enough cash to buy a slab of beer, for his late afternoon snack.
 

supercharger

Juniors
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2,008
[QUOTE="Raiderdave, post:
hopefully 20,000 plus next Friday[/QUOTE]
So is the DH still worthy of condemnation seeing as it appears to have added 10k to last weeks attendance
 

Raiderdave

First Grade
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7,990
[QUOTE="Raiderdave, post:
hopefully 20,000 plus next Friday
So is the DH still worthy of condemnation seeing as it appears to have added 10k to last weeks attendance[/QUOTE]

Of course it is
The weather was horrendous in Auckland all week
They easily crack 20K tonight if they had same weather as last week
 

beave

Coach
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15,671
As many as that? I revised my OP down to 12k. Really poor, reflective of the Cowboys' form.

The 13k was my estimate, I probably should have clarified, my bad.

It might have gusted to low 14ks as the crowd looked to have increased a little compared to the early camera shots just after kick off.
 
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