2018 Crowd Watch

[Last Week]

The ones that moving makes the most sense. Penrith, Cronulla, Manly and Roosters.

Edit: Actually maybe even all 9 of them just to be fair. Start 5 brand new Sydney teams.

Super idea.

 

[taipan]

They are good nights. Except for crowds in Sydney. Which are crap all the time.

Good nights for whom?Certainly not the fans.The worst crowd for most Sydney clubs are 6pm Fridays.Manly with their clusterfk no time is a good time.
Your mob wouldn't have a game at the SCG or Spotless at 6pm Friday.It's plain crazy.

 

[taipan]

The ones that moving makes the most sense. Penrith, Cronulla, Manly and Roosters.

Edit: Actually maybe even all 9 of them just to be fair. Start 5 brand new Sydney teams.

So two teams, one with the biggest junior base, another with the 3rd biggest should be moved.LOL
AFL says thanks for the invite.

 

[Perth Red]

Why? It's not hard to see how to improve crowds ,scheduling for one..

Except we are stuck with this scheduling for next 4 years. To counter balance the negative Fri 6pm (dont forget weve been living with Monday nights for years previously) the weather has been good which is a big bonus for grounds like Shark park and you finished joint top and having an exciting team to follow. It aint getting any better for you, hence why I cant see how you are going to grow your historically low 13-14k avg.

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

The ones that moving makes the most sense. Penrith, Cronulla, Manly and Roosters.

Edit: Actually maybe even all 9 of them just to be fair. Start 5 brand new Sydney teams.

Hold on .
Isn't the answer playing the game in quarters .
Or have you given up on that & moved further into bizarro world ?

 

[T-Boon]

So two teams, one with the biggest junior base, another with the 3rd biggest should be moved.LOL
AFL says thanks for the invite.

those junior bases are there regardless of the club.

 

[T-Boon]

Super idea.

It could be done discretely. Lube up, ease it on in. Make the clubs want to do it.

 

[T-Boon]

Hold on .
Isn't the answer playing the game in quarters .
Or have you given up on that & moved further into bizarro world ?

How is playing in quarters bizarro world? It is stupid not to.

 

[morley101]

Roosters v sharks category 2 reserved seating (TV side) seems to be selling quite well, according to ticketek. So should be a decent crowd

They have made Bays 9 and 17 as category 2 after being originally GA.

 

[taipan]

Except we are stuck with this scheduling for next 4 years. To counter balance the negative Fri 6pm (dont forget weve been living with Monday nights for years previously) the weather has been good which is a big bonus for grounds like Shark park and you finished joint top and having an exciting team to follow. It aint getting any better for you, hence why I cant see how you are going to grow your historically low 13-14k avg.

Monday nights was not a 6pm start.I mentioned rain in some cases.I mentioned having two low drawing crowds ,one involving a 6pm game against Canberra.
You have admitted yourself there are times that do not suit crowds in Perth.

"it ain't getting any better for you".We'll see Nostrodamus.Those historical lows look as if they will match Perth ,if they ever get a side.
You forget 13,000 average is break even for the Sharks.I doubt that would be the case for many other clubs or even Perth.

 

[taipan]

those junior bases are there regardless of the club.

You have not a clue.The junior bases have either grown or maintained there numbers because of having a local NRL team to aspire to .
You appear to not understand the relationship between juniors and the senior side.Such a shaving an Academy for juniors that sometimes works in with the senior club.
If you believe these junior bases will continue to grow, if they lose a senior NRL team, you are deluded.

 

[Perth Red]

Monday nights was not a 6pm start.I mentioned rain in some cases.I mentioned having two low drawing crowds ,one involving a 6pm game against Canberra.
You have admitted yourself there are times that do not suit crowds in Perth.

"it ain't getting any better for you".We'll see Nostrodamus.Those historical lows look as if they will match Perth ,if they ever get a side.
You forget 13,000 average is break even for the Sharks.I doubt that would be the case for many other clubs or even Perth.

I mentioned Monday to counteract the Thursday argument. I seem to recall most believing Thursday would be more popular than Monday. Fri6pm is sht, but were stuck with it for 4 years thanks to Grant and co. How come you are forecast to lose $4mill AFTER a $3mill in the hand grant if 13k is break even? nHow come you lost $4.6mill last year with a 13k crowd avg?

Oh a perth comment lol. Back to the topic how do you see Sharks increasing your crowd avg over next couple of years?

 

[Perth Red]

You have not a clue.The junior bases have either grown or maintained there numbers because of having a local NRL team to aspire to .
You appear to not understand the relationship between juniors and the senior side.Such a shaving an Academy for juniors that sometimes works in with the senior club.
If you believe these junior bases will continue to grow, if they lose a senior NRL team, you are deluded.

Id suggest good funding from Leagues clubs and strong NRL Development officer presence is just if not more important. There a number of successful clubs without a NRL first grade side that are doing well, take a look at the QRL for example. Brisbane has only one club to aspire to yet a very strong jnr base across the city.

 

[Quicksilver]

Sydney started the competition. Out of Towners should be grateful they are allowed to participate in our competition.

If your region's argument for inclusion is so great then it should be able to stand regardless of the number of Sydney teams.

Work on yourselves and your own merits.

 

[T-Boon]

You have not a clue.The junior bases have either grown or maintained there numbers because of having a local NRL team to aspire to .
You appear to not understand the relationship between juniors and the senior side.Such a shaving an Academy for juniors that sometimes works in with the senior club.
If you believe these junior bases will continue to grow, if they lose a senior NRL team, you are deluded.

Under my suggestion each teams junior base gets bigger and the teams that the juniors aspire to are more elite and play in front of bigger crowds. Right across the board it is a brilliant idea.

 

[taipan]

Id suggest good funding from Leagues clubs and strong NRL Development officer presence is just if not more important. There a number of successful clubs without a NRL first grade side that are doing well, take a look at the QRL for example. Brisbane has only one club to aspire to yet a very strong jnr base across the city.

You can suggest whatever you wish, and you usually do, facts are and you appear oblivious to these facts,the following:-
Flannagan has set up the junior base,so there is a clear path from the Academy,junior rep sides right through to the NRL team.One or two in the semis.
You lost the plot.We are talking a specific NRL club, in a specific area, namely its home eg Penrith and Cronulla.What happens in Wyong,Cabramatta, or the West ,has little to do with the local juniors and their relationship and pathways to the senior club.Other than a source of players and members and games played there.
I am more than happy to have a Sunshine Coast NRL team, or an Ipswich team, but they have their identity with their local juniors.
Your analogy using Brisbane s ludicrous, of course a city of 2m ,with a league heritage is going to have a large number of juniors from which to source players.
Queensland has the highest number of regional cities and decentralised more than any Aust state.Hence they have strong lower tier comp,which feeds into the Broncos,Cowboys and Tits.A different animal to NSW.

Penrith and the Sharks have a strong junior base.
Teams that have minimal juniors should be the ones ,pushing to expand.

Interesting most of the tickets for the Sharks v Roosters qualifier are Shark's fans to date.

 

[greenBV4]

Sydney started the competition. Out of Towners should be grateful they are allowed to participate in our competition.

Well if Sydneysiders are going to have that opinion you should just break away from the NRL and form your own Sydney Rugby League.
wealthy/smart Sydney clubs will choose to stay in the NRL, the empty spots can be filled with expansion clubs, you will be left with your Sydney-only comp you feel entitled to, and the rest of the competition can grow

Fantasies aside, Maybe Sydney-siders should be grateful that yes they did start the comp, and they should show this gratitude by actually turning up to games

 

[Quicksilver]

Well if Sydneysiders are going to have that opinion you should just break away from the NRL and form your own Sydney Rugby League.
wealthy/smart Sydney clubs will choose to stay in the NRL, the empty spots can be filled with expansion clubs, you will be left with your Sydney-only comp you feel entitled to, and the rest of the competition can grow

Fantasies aside, Maybe Sydney-siders should be grateful that yes they did start the comp, and they should show this gratitude by actually turning up to games

We have held this competition for 100 years.

Do you go to parties and start kicking out the hosts?

As I said, if the alternatives are so good they can join the comp too. If they are so powerful they can enjoy flogging the locals.

People forget how big Sydney is. Sydney should be highly represented. It's one of the few places in the country with a substantial population.

 

[taipan]

Under my suggestion each teams junior base gets bigger and the teams that the juniors aspire to are more elite and play in front of bigger crowds. Right across the board it is a brilliant idea.

It ain't going to work.Removing the senior team to Interstate,the ones who want to continue to play are going to be gobbled up by an adjoining club.Others will say what's the use, there is no direct pathway, my clubs is 1000kms away.The local junior league is going to take a hit,whiteanting your strength is plain dumb.
Brilliant for you competing codes, which no doubt you;d applaud.

I look at it this way Melbourne sources the bulk of their players from Qld and from NSW.I would like to think after 21 years ,there would be more locals than there are currently coming through the system.

 

[greenBV4]

We have held this competition for 100 years.

Do you go to parties and start kicking out the hosts?

As I said, if the alternatives are so good they can join the comp too. If they are so powerful they can enjoy flogging the locals.

People forget how big Sydney is. Sydney should be highly represented. It's one of the few places in the country with a substantial population.

I don't disagree with you that Sydney is RL's heartland
I just wish the crowds in Sydney reflected it

Its a bad look for the game when the heartland clubs are some of the clubs with the lowest crowd averages