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The Game 2022 Jerseys, Sponsorship, Logos etc

Frailty

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If all were done with 4 days notice you'd have a point.
Part of the deciding where to play is what jersey they will work
Souths have only just revealed their WiL jersey today.
A lot of the event/awareness jerseys are released short notice, but the work has gone on months. Ian Roberts even notes he was approached about this over a month ago. Designs have to go in well before due to jersey production times.
 

Mr. Shaman

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Souths have only just revealed their WiL jersey today.
A lot of the event/awareness jerseys are released short notice, but the work has gone on months. Ian Roberts even notes he was approached about this over a month ago. Designs have to go in well before due to jersey production times.
Yeah but people are too dumb or ignorant to worry about that because it doesn’t suit their agenda
 

beave

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yeah fair enough. Plenty of hypocrisy in the religious world but it only ever seems to be pointed on on this topic.

personally I think most of these players are genuine in their opinions and a lot of the religious players do actually live their morals. That still leaves plenty of room to attack them based on those so-called morals.

also, I can appreciate that this topic is obviously a lot more personal to you. im sure it sucks when people try to say opinions that are directly negative towards you need to be respected.

from my view I just see a lot of this pride corporate crap as a very cynical cash grab. Good case in point is manly didn’t seem to have any intention on donating any money from jersey sales to any sort of causes to assist the community they were supposedly trying to support. the club were stumped by that question at their presser
Pretty sure Des wouldn't have had a clue if the club had already pledged the $$$$$ to any organisations or not. Valid question thrown at him for sure but he's not really the person to be asking it to
 

Iamback

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Souths have only just revealed their WiL jersey today.
A lot of the event/awareness jerseys are released short notice, but the work has gone on months. Ian Roberts even notes he was approached about this over a month ago. Designs have to go in well before due to jersey production times.

Someone from marketing approaching Roberts is different then getting the players input.

Take the aboriginal jersey's, Players help design them and as such the whole comp gets around it.

Nothing wrong with saying we want to do something around pride and going from there.
It was a cash grab by the club
 

Iamback

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Pretty sure Des wouldn't have had a clue if the club had already pledged the $$$$$ to any organisations or not. Valid question thrown at him for sure but he's not really the person to be asking it to

There is zero chance anything gets donated. It was a cash grab
 

SLRBRONCOS

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also, I can appreciate that this topic is obviously a lot more personal to you. im sure it sucks when people try to say opinions that are directly negative towards you need to be respected.

from my view I just see a lot of this pride corporate crap as a very cynical cash grab. Good case in point is manly didn’t seem to have any intention on donating any money from jersey sales to any sort of causes to assist the community they were supposedly trying to support. the club were stumped by that question at their presser
It definitely isn't a great feeling, but I'm not a dude that goes out to be offended, or dictate peoples thoughts. I'm only 30 but my gayness means that I have experienced almost every fibre of this topic, so I feel I have a pretty unique point of view for this current discussion at least. So I will spill all my thoughts and opinions, as respectfully as I can.

If I take any piece of hurt from the defence of these players and their homophobic stance, it is that the defence is coming from heterosexuals, heterosexuals have literally everything that I have wanted in life, and I would not be the only one. Normality to have children. Normality to not have to correct everyone who asks me if there is a wife at home. Normality to ask the father of the bride if you could marry her - I had to ask 20 million people before I could ask my partner.

The support from a huge majority of heterosexuals is f**king amazing though.

I understand that many might feel that this is a cynical cash grab. But this isn't for you. This is for the young gay NRL fans (as I once was) who saw the news yesterday and felt a glorious mix of thrill and relief. The NRL BOYS have my back. They probably took a foot out of the closet, only to read the article of the homophobic 7 and back in they go. Usually people feel good about supporting others, and I believe that was the intention from the Sea Eagles.
 
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Danish

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Pretty sure Des wouldn't have had a clue if the club had already pledged the $$$$$ to any organisations or not. Valid question thrown at him for sure but he's not really the person to be asking it to

honestly I was confused why poor Des was fronting the press conference in the first place.

seems like an obvious one for the CEO to take the lead on
 

Game_Breaker

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Manly next round after pocketing the cash from the rainbow jersey sales


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Frailty

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Someone from marketing approaching Roberts is different then getting the players input.

Take the aboriginal jersey's, Players help design them and as such the whole comp gets around it.

Nothing wrong with saying we want to do something around pride and going from there.
It was a cash grab by the club
Let's take the indigenous jerseys as a perfect example - Are non-indigenous opinions taken seriously when the concept was being put together? No.

It's part of allowing indigenous players to connect with their culture, etc. It is simply accepted now that no one really has any issues. But you're still guaranteed to have morons claiming stuff like "when is Caucasian round?", etc.

It's also quite funny how no one is actually referring to any consultation about the women in league or ANZAC jerseys, or how about Manly's community jersey?

Apparently these are all fine for a cash grabs, but dare it have a rainbow on it and all of a sudden it's a problem.
 

bileduct

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I don't give two f**ks about any club having a pride jersey or anyone that is uncomfortable being forced to wear it.

But what is the thinking behind rolling this jersey out during the Women in League round? What's the statement being made here? I don't understand the connection.

June is "Pride Month", right? Why didn't they wear it then?
 

_Johnsy

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It appears some struggle with the term inclusive.

Inclusive = does not leave any part or group out.

All Manly were trying to do is support advocacy and human rights pertaining to gender, race, culture, ability and LGBTQ movements (I think it's universally agreed that the implementation was comedic at best).

Why has religion decided to pop it's head up. Do human rights pertaining to gender, race, culture, ability and LGBTQ automatically go hand in hand with religion? Surely religion has a big enough platform to sprout & advertise their agenda ad nauseum whenever they want via all media platforms. Why are they raising concerns now? yes it's a rhetorical question.
 

_Johnsy

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But what is the thinking behind rolling this jersey out during the Women in League round? What's the statement being made here? I don't understand the connection.

June is "Pride Month", right? Why didn't they wear it then?
Reckon that's a question for the Manly board, not LU.
 

Penrose Warrior

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do you find the other 15 jerseys on display this weekend exclusive in some way?

inclusivity is also not a right at all in the NRL. It’s an extremely exclusive meritocracy that only grants entry to the absolute best in the sport (plus a few coach’s sons)
I don't know what that first sentence means?

The second one, I reckon you're just being deliberately obtuse. I wasn't saying everyone has the right to play in the NRL, and you know I didn't. The inclusivity should be around every person in society having the right to feel safe and respected in the game, whether they are players/staff/spectators/fans/whatever.

Again, this jersey only exists due to homophobic attitudes. Same as the Women's Round exists because of shitty attitudes and acts against women. Same again for indigenous round, although that's as a wider society.

Anyhoo. Hopefully over time, people become less and less concerned with sexuality and coming out is such a non-event that who gives a f**k. Because it never seemed relevant to me during his career as to which end Ian Roberts was most interested in, until it was.
 

beave

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honestly I was confused why poor Des was fronting the press conference in the first place.

seems like an obvious one for the CEO to take the lead on
100%.

I don't feel he spoke particularly well, but in the circumstances of being thrown to the media wolves by his management, he did about as good as you can expect.

He was let down by his bosses IMO.
 

dogslife

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It appears some struggle with the term inclusive.

Inclusive = does not leave any part or group out.

All Manly were trying to do is support advocacy and human rights pertaining to gender, race, culture, ability and LGBTQ movements (I think it's universally agreed that the implementation was comedic at best).

Why has religion decided to pop it's head up. Do human rights pertaining to gender, race, culture, ability and LGBTQ automatically go hand in hand with religion? Surely religion has a big enough platform to sprout & advertise their agenda ad nauseum whenever they want via all media platforms. Why are they raising concerns now? yes it's a rhetorical question.
Ignoring people's beliefs because they're based on religion hardly seems inclusive
 

Iamback

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Let's take the indigenous jerseys as a perfect example - Are non-indigenous opinions taken seriously when the concept was being put together? No.

It's part of allowing indigenous players to connect with their culture, etc. It is simply accepted now that no one really has any issues. But you're still guaranteed to have morons claiming stuff like "when is Caucasian round?", etc.

It's also quite funny how no one is actually referring to any consultation about the women in league or ANZAC jerseys, or how about Manly's community jersey?

Apparently these are all fine for a cash grabs, but dare it have a rainbow on it and all of a sudden it's a problem.

Putting it together no.

Understanding the meaning behind the jersey's, the smoking ceremonies etc? 1000% is done through the relevant cultural/welfare at the clubs.

Why couldn't similar be done here?

Get Ian Roberts in. To explain why the rainbow is meaningful, the positives to wear it.

Get cultural leaders in to have the players Understand that god doesn't care what colour you wear.

So yes. They just put rainbow on as a cash grab
 
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Souths have only just revealed their WiL jersey today.
A lot of the event/awareness jerseys are released short notice, but the work has gone on months. Ian Roberts even notes he was approached about this over a month ago. Designs have to go in well before due to jersey production times.
It’s being at retail for a couple of weeks though. I bought mine with my kids during school holidays. So it’s not like it’s being a secret.
 

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