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In TV coverage?
In average crowds?
In merchandise sales?
Wildcats have never been bigger and more popular, despite failing to make the finals for the first time in 35 years. They routinely play in front of sell-out crowds. There aren't many tickets available for the Bullets. Sydney are playing in front of 11k fans at the Super Dome. Breakers are drawing great crowds in Auckland. The only games that have a drop in attendance are the ones played on Thursday and Monday nights.
 

Colk

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Cricket is watched in large numbers in South Asia, where the combined population of India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh is close to 2 billion. Tests in Australia against these countries don't draw big crowds, do they?

Tests against India don’t draw and rate like the Ashes, despite India winning their last two series in Australia.

Outside of South Asia it's a small sport.

Only the Tests, T20Is and ODIs against India draw significant revenue from broadcast rights.

So it matters where these people come from then. Interesting. It’s a number game mate.


That's your opinion.


Here's an article from the ABC highlighting the game's declining participation and cultural relevance.




You said NBL wasn't on FTA at all and was only on streaming. You were wrong on both accounts.

Most A-League games are on 10Bold and it's only one game a week. Two NBL games are on 10Peach each Sunday . So that's another incorrect assumption you've dressed up as a fact.



You're not practicing what you preach. First you belittled the standard of the NBL and assumed it's of lower quality than the European competitions. That was an assumption you dressed up as fact as sit is demonstrably false, as the NBL is considered by many experts from the NBA clubs and commentators to be second only to the NBA in playing standard.

You also claimed Australia's best players head to Europe if they cannot get into the NBA. This is another incorrect assumption you dressed up as fact. The NBL has become the preferred pathway to the NBA for Australians, Asians, Americans and an increasing number of Europeans. There are plenty of experienced NBA players using the NBL to get back into the NBA and turning down bigger offers from Europe to do it.

You made these incorrect assumptions as "proof" that the NBL will always be a niche product in Australia. To sum it up, you don't know what you're talking about.


Many of them do watch it and make up a very large segment of NBL fans. The Chinese and Philippino community in Australia is only going to get bigger through immigration. I don't see many of them at the cricket.

1. Good finally you are not spinning s*** I didn’t say.
2. I have read that article before. I have indicated beforehand that cricket does have its problems I am just not suggesting that a competition that barely anybody is taking notice of is going to be usurp it. Cricket might have declining relevance but it has a lot more relevance than the NBL however you want to keep spinning it.
3. That’s great but does that matter when only 50k people are watching it?
4. I have let a couple of your posts claiming this go through but now I am going to pull you up. This is my post:

The problem is these competitions (NBL or A-League) are largely inferior to these competitions, so why would a casual viewer (which is what sports growth hinges on) watch an inferior version of that same product. You say that people (in a perjorative sense I assume) don’t want to watch club cricketers; they also don’t want to watch blokes who aren’t good enough to play in the NBA or the EPL/European leagues

I was referring to both the NBL and the A-League in saying that their competitions have better competitions elsewhere - NBL to NBA and A-League to EPL (you know that small competition called the English Premier League) and European competitions. This is inarguable Next time you want to quote someone do it correctly, particularly if by misquoting them, you are trying to attack them.

5. Many of them obviously don’t watch it because if they did their audience would be a lot higher. There are over 1 million people of Chinese heritage (1.35 million) in Australia so a great deal aren’t watching NBL based on simple numbers

Anyway in closing I have had enough of this ‘debate.’ Your views are obviously dependent on how you view and critically judge these sports and other anecdotal things rather than on the actual numbers in front of you.

I don’t have any skin in this game, as I don’t mind either sport but I would rather have a discussion based on facts and without misquoting and clear distortions
 
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What's the trends / observations on migrants and rugby league. Back in the day, alot of the Lebanese, Italians, Greeks etc got into the sport (and AFL in Melbourne) but that was with very limited options.

I can't say that new immigrant group like Nepalese, Indians, Chinese, Sudanese and Filipino have taken to the game in large numbers.
 

Colk

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What's the trends / observations on migrants and rugby league. Back in the day, alot of the Lebanese, Italians, Greeks etc got into the sport (and AFL in Melbourne) but that was with very limited options.

I can't say that new immigrant group like Nepalese, Indians, Chinese, Sudanese and Filipino have taken to the game in large numbers.

Who knows.

There is just as likely a possibility that they are not actually interested in sport at all, or have very little interest in sport.

I know we are on a League forum but there is just this assumption that they have to be interested in sport or a sport. They could be interested in a whole bunch of other things like Esport/gaming, music etc.
 

Wb1234

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What's the trends / observations on migrants and rugby league. Back in the day, alot of the Lebanese, Italians, Greeks etc got into the sport (and AFL in Melbourne) but that was with very limited options.

I can't say that new immigrant group like Nepalese, Indians, Chinese, Sudanese and Filipino have taken to the game in large numbers.
I hardly don’t know a lebo who isn’t a league fan

Greeks less so they don’t mind soccer as with Italians
What's the trends / observations on migrants and rugby league. Back in the day, alot of the Lebanese, Italians, Greeks etc got into the sport (and AFL in Melbourne) but that was with very limited options.

I can't say that new immigrant group like Nepalese, Indians, Chinese, Sudanese and Filipino have taken to the game in large numbers.
Indians and Nepalese strong cricket fans

in general yeh league isn’t getting many of them or Asians

I don’t know a single lebo who isn’t a league fan

Greeks and Italians like soccer but generally league too

the big growth has been islander where before they were all union now it’s league all the way

depends on the club too off course

like Cronulla you aren’t seeing many non whites in that crowd
 

Perth Red

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NBL will overtake it soon (they actually might one day in all seriousness)

In all seriousness though, I’m glad horse racing is in trouble.
Hopefully more and more people are waking up that its not glamorous to whip a horse to run so fast it risks its heart exploding. Just so people can bet money and maybe make some coin. Shtty industry.
 

Iamback

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NBL will overtake it soon (they actually might one day in all seriousness)

In all seriousness though, I’m glad horse racing is in trouble.

Horse Racing is popular still the ratings system is in trouble though
 

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A healthy 1.8 million viewers tuned in for the men's tournament opener between England and Samoa. And the figures for the other two group games have not been far behind.

On a regular weekend of Super League fixtures, whether they be on satellite channels or free to air, a figure of 300,000 viewers would be considered good. But that number has been surpassed by many of these World Cup games.

The England women's opener against Brazil on a Tuesday afternoon on BBC Two scored with half a million viewers. That's more than a match for the number of viewers who watched the men's Super League Grand Final live back in September.

Australia v Scotland may have been a blow out, but a peak of 800,000 were watching late in the second half on BBC Two.

And many of the matches on BBC Three have also been punching high, with regular audiences of 300,000 plus, more than that channel might have expected for its usual programming.

The TV buzz around the tournament in other regular programming - breakfast shows, news bulletins etc - is making this Rugby League World Cup arguably the most talked about ever by the British public.

The wheelchair tournament is almost certain to build a following and the further England's men and women can progress, the bigger the draw for audiences.

The expectation will be for figures of two million plus if any of England's three teams can go all the way in their respective competitions. In an age when the likes of EastEnders and Coronation Street pull in just over three million viewers for live airings, that would be considered a success.

 

Perth Red

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yeh not much point in worrying about live audience. Its in the replays that would be interesting to see. I'm watching games about 4 days behind at moment. Be good to see a 7 day replay audience number for the games.
 

The_Wookie

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RLWC2021 Becomes Most Watched Rugby League World Cup in History​


Rugby League World Cup 2021 has broken yet more records on its way towards becoming the biggest, best and most inclusive tournament in rugby league’s history, with broadcast figures up until Sunday 6 November showing a domestic cumulative match average of more than 18.7million – making it the most watched Rugby League World Cup ever.

Every minute of every match to date has been broadcast live on the BBC, with England men’s quarter final clash with Papua New Guinea the first game to average over 1.5 million viewers in recording a peak of 1.7million viewers, a figure only beaten on the opening match of the tournament when a peak of 1.8 million tuned into see England beat Samoa.

In the women’s and wheelchair tournaments, which are running simultaneously with the men’s game for the first time ever, both England teams have also attracted big audiences with an average of 0.5 million viewers apiece, with England women’s game against Canada and England wheelchair team’s game against Australia proving to be the most popular matches so far with both reaching a peak of over 700,000.

The latest weekend of action was by far the biggest so far with a domestic terrestrial audience for Saturday and Sunday’s fixtures reach 3.7million, with digital and online figures bringing that up to 4.3 million.

The record viewing figures are being underpinned by record-breaking crowds for the sport too, with the attendance at the DW Stadium breaking the all-time record for a Rugby League World Cup Quarter-Final match as 23,179 people passed through the turnstiles in Wigan.

At the Copper Box Arena, the world record for attendance has twice been broken with 3,268 people in watching England’s Wheelchair team defeat Spain, increasing the record which was set just a few days before in the opening double header on Thursday 3 November. Similarly, the first game for England Women achieved the ambition of being the most attended women’s rugby league game in the northern hemisphere with 8,621 people making a great atmosphere inside Headingley Stadium as the home nation overcame Brazil.

 
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NBL will overtake it soon (they actually might one day in all seriousness)

In all seriousness though, I’m glad horse racing is in trouble.
NBL is only a niche product, but it has room to grow. Whether it does or not is another story and odds are it will never be mainstream, but I'm enjoying it and recommend others give it a go. There's some great athletes in it.

I agree it's good that horse racing is dying. It's a vile sport.
 

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