2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

[colly]

its def for mine the manipulation of the ch 7 contract over the years 20-24 where most of the ... paper.. increase is coming from for the afl, the back ending of that deal.
730 mill , average of 146 million pa ( same annual amount average from 2017)
reduced by 87 mill over the years 20-22 , so an average of 117 mill pa & 190 million pa for 23-24

their annual report will show those figures in 2023-24 & it will look impressive & a significant increase , but all isn't as it seems & looks can be deceiving.

Good points. don't discount the telstra side deals that left the NRL without a partner at the dance. So Vlandy got rid of Telstra live app , which we were getting nothing for anyway, to make more enticing for 'the media players.'

"Telstra acquired NRL mobile rights in the current cycle, 2018 to 2022, in a sub licensing deal with pay-television broadcaster Foxtel. The Sydney Morning Herald reported yesterday that the NRL has blocked Foxtel from sub licensing the rights in the next cycle, under a new deal agreed last week covering 2023 to 2027."

Telstra to lose NRL mobile rights

Australian telco Telstra is set to lose its National Rugby League mobile rights after the current cycle ends in 2022, as the league looks to preserve greater exclusivity for its television partners.

media.sportbusiness.com

So after this decision Telsra sooked and then said in the corona virus negotiations with the AFL that they 'would NOT bid for nrl/AFL media streaming at all.
So this is where the AFL loses 50m per year- while the NRL got no $ for it's live App as it was sub Licensed from Foxtel to Telstra. So from a cosy relationship with the AFL, telstra funded the AFL to the tune of 50m while we got nothing- the NRL Vlandy wouldn't even hold talks with telstra regarding this matter. So it was a decision made by (Vlandy) to rectify a poor, previous deal while also kicking $50 million dollars revenue out of the AFL deal. CheckMate!

 

[Perth Red]

Good points. don't discount the telstra side deals that left the NRL without a partner at the dance. So Vlandy got rid of Telstra live app , which we were getting nothing for anyway, to make more enticing for 'the media players.'

"Telstra acquired NRL mobile rights in the current cycle, 2018 to 2022, in a sub licensing deal with pay-television broadcaster Foxtel. The Sydney Morning Herald reported yesterday that the NRL has blocked Foxtel from sub licensing the rights in the next cycle, under a new deal agreed last week covering 2023 to 2027."

Telstra to lose NRL mobile rights

Australian telco Telstra is set to lose its National Rugby League mobile rights after the current cycle ends in 2022, as the league looks to preserve greater exclusivity for its television partners.

media.sportbusiness.com

So after this decision Telsra sooked and then said in the corona virus negotiations with the AFL that they 'would NOT bid for nrl/AFL media streaming at all.
So this is where the AFL loses 50m per year- while the NRL got no $ for it's live App as it was sub Licensed from Foxtel to Telstra. So from a cosy relationship with the AFL, telstra funded the AFL to the tune of 50m while we got nothing- the NRL Vlandy wouldn't even hold talks with telstra regarding this matter. So it was a decision made by (Vlandy) to rectify a poor, previous deal while also kicking $50 million dollars revenue out of the AFL deal. CheckMate!

Its staggering to think AFL got $300million for streaming in last deal from telstra and we got nothing. Our negotiating skills truly suck!

Yeh Vlandys got rid of Kayos only competitor and what did we get in return? A deal with Fox worth $100million less. Great negotiating skills yet again!

 

[colly]

Its staggering to think AFL got $300million for streaming in last deal from telstra and we got nothing. Our negotiating skills truly suck!

Yeh Vlandys got rid of Kayos only competitor and what did we get in return? A deal with Fox worth $100million less. Great negotiating skills yet again!

Well who did the old deal originally- why a London Banker that's who, who also did not know anything about commercial Tv, pay Tv or Telco's as well as nothing about Rugby League. . We got 20?- 30m pa for naming rights from Telstra. Anyway thats the old shit, that deal was for over 5 years while also incompetent, it still got us with range of the AFL, which was hidden because the AFL deal was for a extra year deal or said in anther way it was close between the NRL and the AFL.
Now with Vlandy dropping Telstra from the new deal ( this thread) set in motion that the AFL would be hit with a 50m reduction in revenue in thier new deal. Well done Vlandy.
So suck eggs AFL no $300 million revenue deal for you!

 

[Perth Red]

Well who did the old deal originally- why a London Banker that's who, who also did not know anything about commercial Tv, pay Tv or Telco's. We got 20?- 30m pa for naming rights from Telstra. Anyway thats the old shit, that deal was for over 5 years while also incompetent, it still got us with range of the AFL, which was hidden because the AFL deal was for a extra year deal or said in anther way it was close between the NRL and the AFL.
Now with Vlandy dropping Telstra from the new deal ( this thread) set in motion that the AFL would be hit with a 50m reduction in revenue in thier new deal. Well done Vlandy.
So suck eggs AFL no $300 million revenue deal for you!

the money we did get from telstra was for sponsorship, nothing to do with streaming. That they could get $300mill whilst we got ZILCH is staggering. The fact Fox financially benefitted from our incompetence is even worse.
Smith negotiated the Nine deal but got booted before the telstra/fox deal was done. We can blame Grant for that one.
Dont kid yourself, Vlandys dropped Telstra because news ltd told him to, they didnt want competition for KAYO. Then they had the cheek to pay us less for agreeing! Why didnt Vlandys go to telstra and tell them they could keep it for the same $50mill they were paying AFL? That would have been a better outcome for the game.

What News ltd wants, Vlandys delivers:

Close down NRL digital media team - tick
Remove Telstra streaming competition - tick
Get Broncos off FTA to drive Brisbane Fox subscriptions- tick
Pick a Brisbane expansion team that is the least threat to the Broncos business - tick
12 extra games a year - tick
Pay no more than last time - tick.

 

[tri_colours]

Its staggering to think AFL got $300million for streaming in last deal from telstra and we got nothing. Our negotiating skills truly suck!

Yeh Vlandys got rid of Kayos only competitor and what did we get in return? A deal with Fox worth $100million less. Great negotiating skills yet again!

$200m from Teltsra was the figure reported. but no telling how much that was in PR numbers.

 

[Perth Red]

$200m from Teltsra was the figure reported. but no telling how much that was in PR numbers.

apart from the sponsorship component for naming rights, the rest went to Fox not the NRL. Really sht deal by Grant.

Telstra acquired NRL mobile rights in the current cycle, 2018 to 2022, in a sublicensing deal with pay-television broadcaster Foxtel.

Telstra to lose NRL mobile rights

Australian telco Telstra is set to lose its National Rugby League mobile rights after the current cycle ends in 2022, as the league looks to preserve greater exclusivity for its television partners.

media.sportbusiness.com

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Murdoch has treated our game like shit since the 1990s. He admitted in a press conference that he prefers fumbleball and will use his publications to promote the game in Queensland and New South Wales. He's thrown peanuts at us while paying overs to AwFuL. The bloke is from a fumbleball wasteland and the sooner he does the world a favour and dies the better our game will be.

 

[tri_colours]

If Telstra paid $200m of the $1.175b. that fox and telstra payed to the NRL in 2018 deal. As reported, why are you showing me a 2020 article ? Are they related?

Because in the 2021conract they paid about $240m a year which works out to be over $100m in the life of the contract.

If naming rights haven't been included then it would be another $15m a year. If you accurately want to compare the two contrracts (highly doubtful)

And as has been pointed out further expansion is possible within the next 5 years. If that was the case we would probably see Fox pay even more.

 

[marshall stalin]

apart from the sponsorship component for naming rights, the rest went to Fox not the NRL. Really sht deal by Grant.

Telstra acquired NRL mobile rights in the current cycle, 2018 to 2022, in a sublicensing deal with pay-television broadcaster Foxtel.

Telstra to lose NRL mobile rights

Australian telco Telstra is set to lose its National Rugby League mobile rights after the current cycle ends in 2022, as the league looks to preserve greater exclusivity for its television partners.

media.sportbusiness.com

What are the odds of Telstra continuing as the major sponsor past 2022?

 

[Perth Red]

If Telstra paid $200m of the $1.175b. that fox and telstra payed to the NRL in 2018 deal. As reported, why are you showing me a 2020 article ? Are they related?

Because in the 2021conract they paid about $240m a year which works out to be over $100m in the life of the contract.

If naming rights haven't been included then it would be another $15m a year. If you accurately want to compare the two contrracts (highly doubtful)

And as has been pointed out further expansion is possible within the next 5 years. If that was the case we would probably see Fox pay even more.

Because it clearly states in that article that 2018-22 telstra are paying Fox, not the NRl, for streaming simucast rights.

 

[Perth Red]

What are the odds of Telstra continuing as the major sponsor past 2022?

Will be interesting to see. They sounded pretty miffed that Vlandys had agreed to News Ltds request to cut them out without even speaking to them. But then they shut down the streaming before they had to and encouraged everyone to move to Kayo with a cheap subscription offer. Given they own 35% of Foxtel, its all very incestuous lol.

re naming rights Its a good deal for them, they've been paying the same amount ($15mill a year) since 2007 ($3.5mill a year less than Toyota pay AFL) so I doubt they'll walk away.

 

[colly]

the money we did get from telstra was for sponsorship, nothing to do with streaming. That they could get $300mill whilst we got ZILCH is staggering. The fact Fox financially benefitted from our incompetence is even worse.
Smith negotiated the Nine deal but got booted before the telstra/fox deal was done. We can blame Grant for that one.
Dont kid yourself, Vlandys dropped Telstra because news ltd told him to, they didnt want competition for KAYO. Then they had the cheek to pay us less for agreeing! Why didnt Vlandys go to telstra and tell them they could keep it for the same $50mill they were paying AFL? That would have been a better outcome for the game.

What News ltd wants, Vlandys delivers:

Close down NRL digital media team - tick
Remove Telstra streaming competition - tick
Get Broncos off FTA to drive Brisbane Fox subscriptions- tick
Pick a Brisbane expansion team that is the least threat to the Broncos business - tick
12 extra games a year - tick
Pay no more than last time - tick.

listen to yourself.
Kayo Tesltra 35% ownership News Ltd 65%
Foxtel Telstra 35% ownership New Ltd 65%

So Vlandy stopped Telsra on News Ltd say so- delusional, their the same in regards media streaming/satellite and online. Their the same

 

[Perth Red]

listen to yourself.
Kayo Tesltra 35% ownership News Ltd 65%
Foxtel Telstra 35% ownership New Ltd 65%

So Vlandy stopped Telsra on News Ltd say so- delusional, their the same in regards media streaming/satellite and online. Their the same

seems strange then that Telstra were so miffed and Vlandys didn't even consult with them? Maybe if he had offered them it for some $'s we'd have seen a bigger deal? Its not like News Ltd paid for the privilege is it?

Having full streaming was far far more valuable to Telstra than the extra revenue a few more subscriptions to kayo will bring in for them (hence why they were paying AFL $50mill a year for it). Probably why they were so miffed.
News ltd got what it wanted, Telstra were the big losers.

 

[tri_colours]

1.Telstra acquired NRL mobile rights in the current cycle, 2018 to 2022 -

for Telstra app & naming rights = $200m

Foxtel and its partner jointly paid $1.175B



2. NRL has blocked Foxtel from sublicensing the rights in the next cycle, under a new deal agreed last week covering 2023 to 2027.

NRL still have Naming though and that was worked out in a seperate 6 year deal

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

This whole thread is basically a PR hate PVL thread .
No matter what he has done it's a terrible deal .
Even when shown he is just guessing or straight out fabricating numbers or what happened ....he still ploughs on relentlessly with his hate .

 

[Perth Red]

This whole thread is basically a PR hate PVL thread .
No matter what he has done it's a terrible deal .
Even when shown he is just guessing or straight out fabricating numbers or what happened ....he still ploughs on relentlessly with his hate .

Bless.
I have acknowledged the NZ part of the deal is excellent. The rest is meh at best.

 

[Perth Red]

1.Telstra acquired NRL mobile rights in the current cycle, 2018 to 2022 -

for Telstra app & naming rights = $200m

Foxtel and its partner jointly paid $1.175B



2. NRL has blocked Foxtel from sublicensing the rights in the next cycle, under a new deal agreed last week covering 2023 to 2027.

NRL still have Naming though and that was worked out in a seperate 6 year deal

Where have you seen Telstra has extended naming rights beyond 2022? I haven't seen any announcement. Are you getting confused with the article posted earlier which was actually a news story from 2006?

 

[tri_colours]

seems strange then that Telstra were so miffed and Vlandys didn't even consult with them? Maybe if he had offered them it for some $'s we'd have seen a bigger deal? Its not like News Ltd paid for the privilege is it?

Having full streaming was far far more valuable to Telstra than the extra revenue a few more subscriptions to kayo will bring in for them (hence why they were paying AFL $50mill a year for it). Probably why they were so miffed.
News ltd got what it wanted, Telstra were the big losers.

Telstra paid us 15m for naming rights - the same as they had previously. they must have been very miffed

 

[tri_colours]

Where have you seen Telstra has extended naming rights beyond 2022? I haven't seen any announcement. Are you getting confused with the article posted earlier which was actually a news story from 2006?

Late september, many of the Newspaper sites had the story also the NRL website

$90m deal breaks new ground

$90m deal breaks new ground

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[TGG]

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