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2023 TV/Fox/Streaming Ratings

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Perth Red

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GWS and GCS was worth 50m a year to the AFL.

The Dolphins are bigger than both and the ratings for the Dolphins dwarf both.

20m a year extra is being conservative.

By the way you seem to be under the impression networks pay for expansion teams before they know what value they bring to the table....

NRL was not paid for Dolphins, that comes next broadcasts deal.
Eh? This broadcast deal included the dolphins and the 12 extra games a 17th club brings. Sure ch9 never paid anything and it’s highly debatable how much fox really paid extra but the extra content is in the contract. Bringing in an 18th club only allows the nrl to try and vary this contract before it runs out end of 2027. Ch9 refused to pay anything last time and fox (allegedly) barely covered costs of the nrl club. Good luck getting an extra $20mill plus out of them for last 2 years of the contract.
 

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Eh? This broadcast deal included the dolphins and the 12 extra games a 17th club brings. Sure ch9 never paid anything and it’s highly debatable how much fox really paid extra but the extra content is in the contract. Bringing in an 18th club only allows the nrl to try and vary this contract before it runs out end of 2027. Ch9 refused to pay anything last time and fox (allegedly) barely covered costs of the nrl club. Good luck getting an extra $20mill plus out of them for last 2 years of the contract.

''Good luck getting an extra $20mill plus out of them for last 2 years of the contract.''

What are you talking about mate?

Next broadcast deal starts 2028.

That is when the true value will be seen for the Dolphins and a 9th game.
 

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The other thing that needs to be considered are the Broncos. There's been a number of games already where Fox have used the Broncos exclusively in a 7:30pm Saturday night timeslot. With the Dolphins in the comp, there will be more exclusive Broncos games on Fox.
And thats why news ltd agreed to let them in. For them it was about getting more fox/kayo subscribers in brisbane by getting broncos off fta every week.
 

Perth Red

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''Good luck getting an extra $20mill plus out of them for last 2 years of the contract.''

What are you talking about mate?

Next broadcast deal starts 2028.

That is when the true value will be seen for the Dolphins and a 9th game.
Keep up, the discussion was an 18th club coming in before end of this contract. Unless it’s the go anywhere bears there won’t be a new club ready before 2026 ie the last 2 years of this contract. Savvy?
 

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the 4 qlnd teams won’t let another in so soon, and the nrl aren’t that dumb when dolphins are still getting established and titans are still only just getting back on their feet. Dolphins were only allowed in as it suited news ltd to get broncos off fta, mission accomplished.
 

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Keep up, the discussion was an 18th club coming in before end of this contract. Unless it’s the go anywhere bears there won’t be a new club ready before 2026 ie the last 2 years of this contract. Savvy?

Fox ratings are up over around 25%

250m current Fox contract.

300m will be next contract from Fox league alone now add in inflation of 7% over 5 years.

Yeah give up now.

Your predictions are way out.
 

The_Wookie

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Fox ratings are up over around 25%

250m current Fox contract.

300m will be next contract from Fox league alone now add in inflation of 7% over 5 years.

Yeah give up now.

Your predictions are way out.

When the subcription figures come out, Im betting theres not a 25% lift represented there - or anything even close to it.
 

Perth Red

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Fox ratings are up over around 25%

250m current Fox contract.

300m will be next contract from Fox league alone now add in inflation of 7% over 5 years.

Yeah give up now.

Your predictions are way out.
Only if there’s competition. What’s inflation got to do with anything?
ch9 are paying no more in 2027 than they did in 2017!
 

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Only if there’s competition. What’s inflation got to do with anything?
ch9 are paying no more in 2027 than they did in 2017!

Inflation does not effect broadcasts deal as per Perth red.

''AFL deal includes rises to account for inflation.''

Please stop it, your to much.
 

Perth Red

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Inflation does not effect broadcasts deal as per Perth red.

''AFL deal includes rises to account for inflation.''

Please stop it, your to much.
Eh? You seem to be mixing up accounting systems with inflation. tv deals are not really effected by inflation, they are effected by competition largely and then other stuff like content and value. Or are you saying afls $366mill to $550mill increase was due to inflation? Lol
 
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