2nd Test - Australia v New Zealand Hobart Dec 9 - Dec 13 2011

[BunniesMan]

Finally the breakthrough. And it's the machine: Pattinson. Well caught by Hughes too. Could be just the thing to give him some confidence.

 

[Pete Cash]

This is a great pitch. Should be more like it.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Seriously, the people saying Khawaja played good need to explain how going in to your shell is beneficial on this pitch. Guptill has done it twice now

 

[BunniesMan]

They're dropping like flies now. We got this.

 

[BunniesMan]

Oi Siddle, see what happens when you pitch up.

 

[Iafeta]

In regards to what shiznit said about the pitch, anyone who can somehow put together a 50 on that wicket deserves a medal. Fast bowlers are essentially leg break bowlers on that deck with the ability to skid one on like a Warne flipper of yesteryear.

EDIT: Sorry, thats not to suggest the pitch is bad, its just we have all been used to roads over the past few years. It'd be worse if it was rearing off a length.

 

[ElectricEelMan]

A pitch that gets a result inside of three days (like this test match might) is NOT a good pitch.

It is better than a road of a pitch but is still not a good pitch.

 

[Pete Cash]

Batsmen are too pampered if they go to pieces at a hint of green it says more about the standard of modern day batsmen than it does about the pitch.

 

[BunniesMan]

A pitch that gets a result inside of three days (like this test match might) is NOT a good pitch.

It is better than a road of a pitch but is still not a good pitch.

Maybe it's not the pitch? Maybe the batsmen have been dissapointing? Go through all the 22 wickets that have fallen so far. Maybe 3 or 4 have been because of the wicket? There is nothing wrong with that. The vast majority of wickets have been because of poor batting.

If a Kiwi lower order bloke can get a 50, it isnt THAT bad.

 

[ElectricEelMan]

Maybe it's not the pitch? Maybe the batsmen have been dissapointing? Go through all the 22 wickets that have fallen so far. Maybe 3 or 4 have been because of the wicket? There is nothing wrong with that. The vast majority of wickets have been because of poor batting.

If a Kiwi lower order bloke can get a 50, it isnt THAT bad.

Brownlie is NOT a lower order bloke!

More than half of the wickets have been because of the pitch. If not more.

 

[Iafeta]

Its not just the balls that have been getting the wickets. Its the ones in between time that stay down, that seam from middle stick, take the back pad and are missing off... That innings of Brownlie's was a hell of an innings on that deck. The thing that is in the favour of evaluating the wicket is it isn't rearing off a length. If it did that, coupled with the ones staying down, I think the umpires may look at it from a perspective of safety. Thankfully its only seaming and staying down off a length.

Wickets these days tend to be pampered to the needs of batsmen, boundaries are more in these days, I have no issues with one that tests your skills to the max.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

A pitch that gets a result inside of three days (like this test match might) is NOT a good pitch.

It is better than a road of a pitch but is still not a good pitch.

Disagree.

Batsman have no idea how to play in difficult conditions and the vast majority of wickets have shown this. Not many wickets have fallen to crazy deliveries.

4 or 5 wickets have fallen to players leaving or attempting to leave the balls in good lines. Most of the other top order batsman have been caught playing too defensive - Guptill x2, McCullum, Hughes, Khawaja

Brownlie, Siddle, Clarke showed that you can be dominant on the wicket without being stupid like Haddin or being overly defensive as long as you play your shots and don't worry about what the pitch might do.

Test cricket.

 

[Pete Cash]

That was a bad drop

 

[ElectricEelMan]

Disagree.

Batsman have no idea how to play in difficult conditions and the vast majority of wickets have shown this. Not many wickets have fallen to crazy deliveries.

4 or 5 wickets have fallen to players leaving or attempting to leave the balls in good lines. Most of the other top order batsman have been caught playing too defensive - Guptill x2, McCullum, Hughes, Khawaja

Brownlie, Siddle, Clarke showed that you can be dominant on the wicket without being stupid like Haddin or being overly defensive as long as you play your shots and don't worry about what the pitch might do.

Test cricket.

Disagree.
There have been some deliveries, which have shown this not a good pitch. A delivery to Khawaja swung and kept low almost crawling along the ground. If that was on the stumps there would not have been a batsmen in the world who could have kept it out.
A good pitch is one that has even bounce. This pitch does not.
Just count the amount of play and misses AND also the amount of edges that also shows the pitch is in too much of the bowlers favour. Batsmen can't tell what the ball is going to do.
Just look at Ponting and Clarke's dismissal. Neither had any idea what the delivery was going to do cause similar deliveries did exactly the opposite. They weren't bad leaves.

The Gabba pitch was a great pitch. If you bowled well you got wickets and if you batted well you got runs.

This is NOT that sort of pitch.

 

[El Diablo]

nicely done Haddin

 

[BunniesMan]

Would have been a rich man if you put money on Hussey getting a wicket via stumping.

And Ryder = fat lazy careless waste of talent.

 

[Leagueaddict]

Lightening reflexes...Classic Haddin!

 

[aussies1st]

That was top notch by Haddin.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Not gonna agree. Clarke played and missed two balls earlier and the one that bowled him was hardly a ridiculous ball. Ponting yes. Not many others.

A handful of balls kept down, meh. Too many predictable pitches this green top is great

 

[Tom Shines]

Not gonna agree. Clarke played and missed two balls earlier and the one that bowled him was hardly a ridiculous ball. Ponting yes. Not many others.

A handful of balls kept down, meh. Too many predictable pitches this green top is great

No way, I'd rather watch India rack up 6/700d like they usually do...