3P - Why the Delays?

[Suitman]

I can see your point about that one word...

...and my point was exactly that. Calling 3P liars was a joke, and I said so.
Against that sort of vitriol, I WILL defend the current/new board. It was a rediculous accusation. If the question had have been asked.........

"When might the TAB be coming back to the club?" and a reply was forthcoming, which it was today, I, and many others wouldn't have had a problem.
It's as simple as that.
BTW, the proposer of this thread, would have walked past Lyn Wallace many times in Sterlo's Bar before a game. In fact, I know he has. Was it not beyond him to simply ask her the question in person?
To accuse them of being liars on this issue is simply outragous.

Suity

 

[Suitman]

No, people are just giving their opinions. No over-reaction here, it's been amusing to read ;-).

As I said yesterday, I await the moment when the new levels of awareness and scrutiny regarding the club (that were created by the campaigning) can simply stay in place equally now (rather than be discouraged), as the club moves forward.

As far as I can see, no one has discouraged anything bar false accusations.

Suity

 

[El Diablo]

Bart, you don't start bitching about a builder a week after construction starts because the roof isn't on yet. Unless it's Suity of course ;-)

well you can't have it both ways

they have received a lot of deserved praise lately and i can't recall anyone being critical of anything till now

 

[mickdo]

well you can't have it both ways

they have received a lot of deserved praise lately and i can't recall anyone being critical of anything till now

When those people just straight out call them liars, it's not being critical, it's being offensive

 

[El Diablo]

When those people just straight out call them liars, it's not being critical, it's being offensive

well i do agree and think the topic title is a bit wrong

 

[Jodeci]

it should be: 3P - CHANGES???

OR

3P - TAB Question?

 

[Twizzle]

When those people just straight out call them liars, it's not being critical, it's being offensive

well i do agree and think the topic title is a bit wrong

After reading through the whole thread I tend to agree, so I've taken the liberty of renaming the thread to a more suitable title.

 

[mickdo]

well i do agree and think the topic title is a bit wrong

Glad you agree. If someone had started a thread listing the various 'promises' that were made by 3P prior to the election and their status/prospects in a decent manner then there would not have been a problem. In fact, someone should do so as opposed to this rubbish.

Edit: thanks Twiz

 

[Suitman]

After reading through the whole thread I tend to agree, so I've taken the liberty of renaming the thread to a more suitable title.

And if it had been worded that way in the first place, this thread would be about 2 pages long, with a suitable answer already given.
Thanks Twiz, and thanks Jodeci for the answer.

Suity

 

[El Diablo]

After reading through the whole thread I tend to agree, so I've taken the liberty of renaming the thread to a more suitable title.

cool

i didn't think you understood what i meant before. i usually do a piss poor job at making sense

 

[Twizzle]

cool

i didn't think you understood what i meant before. i usually do a piss poor job at making sense

dont worry, so do I

 

[Suitman]

cool

i didn't think you understood what i meant before. i usually do a piss poor job at making sense

dont worry, so do I

That makes 3 of us. :lol:

Suity

 

[Hellsy]

I like the title change in this thread, much more appropriate

 

[bartman]

...and my point was exactly that. Calling 3P liars was a joke, and I said so.

Which you're more than entitled to do.

Against that sort of vitriol, I WILL defend the current/new board. It was a rediculous accusation.

I personally read it as just an opinion, rather than an accusation. I guess it comes down to which tone of voice you read the words on the screen with.

If the question had have been asked.........

"When might the TAB be coming back to the club?" and a reply was forthcoming, which it was today, I, and many others wouldn't have had a problem.
It's as simple as that.

Agree. But it's interesting to me that many other opinions/accusations about the previous Board when in power were not coached in those same respectful terms, and there were few attempts to defend the same approach being used. Regardless of who is elected/employed, it is still our club and the value of respect should be consistantly applied, imo.

BTW, the proposer of this thread, would have walked past Lyn Wallace many times in Sterlo's Bar before a game. In fact, I know he has. Was it not beyond him to simply ask her the question in person?

I'm not sure who the proposer is in person, so I'll take your word for it. But you know my position on accountability and openness, and I feel that it is any poster's right to discuss and pass opinion on (in a critical fashion if they wish) the goings on of our club in these forums. Not just when the majority happens to agree with them - in fact most importantly not so.

To accuse them of being liars on this issue is simply outragous.

I can now see how the thread could be read like that, even though it was not the way I initially read/reacted to the post.

I also see that the term has been changed, so hopefully the substance of the question asked can be treated on its merits, and not simply howled down for asking or raising the issue. Going forward it's important that we are encouraged to be as critical and opinionated as we became during the elections, imo.

 

[Freak2]

Interesting reading!

I too am disappointed about the length of time it has / or will take to get a TAB back in the club. I understand their are time restraints and possibly bigger items that need to be addressed before it occurs, but I also understand that a TAB may be seen as a conflict of interest to both BETEZY and CENTREBET.
So who do we look after; the member or the sponsor??

I don't buy into the past running cost debate and reason for not having a TAB, it's just nonsense. IMO the previous board removed the TAB in attempt to get Punters in front of the 'boxes', as the returns are gaurantees and improved margins, but their are punters like myself who cannot stand 'the boxes' but enjoy horse racing and sports betting that the club continues to miss whilst no TAB exists. There are TAB facilities now that require no attendants and are self administered which I would think would work exceptionally well in any club.

At the very least the new board must come out and propose a date when the TAB will be re-introduced. After all it was a BIG ticket item on being appointed.

Comments 3P??

By the way, Boys are going Super!!

 

[Sangreal 86]

Then why did they talk about it during the little LC meetings?

Another feel good promise that was always going to amount to nothing?

Having said that, I don't wanna turn this into a bag-a-thon. I think, however, that the original question was fair enough. It was promised, it's easy to do, was supposed to have been a lock prior to election and is yet to materialise.

I was of the opinion the name Jesus was associated with positive, happy thoughts, encouraging people to see the best in all, and be patient for others to achieve their goals, not death ride something you supposedly love, and denigrate people's views on what they believe, who also love the club. Perhaps you should think of another handle to call yourself and have a Bex and a lay down.

I cannot speak for the board on any level, and do not intend answering anything on their behalf, but I will have a crack at you for putting the slipper into good people after 3 months.The workload these people have, and the hours they are putting in to give you the club you deserve, is beyond reproach. But apparently you and your mate know better than anyone and have all the answers, and damn the consequences.

I promised you guys before the election that there will be a TAB or equivalent in Sterlo's, and there will once the management investigations within the Leagues Club are completed.
I know for a fact that a meeting with one betting agency occurred 2 weeks ago, and I know all options are being viewed at this time. From the day campaigning started, it was stated that all avenues for this club to make money would be investigated.

Due diligence will be done on every option by the directors and management of this club, and the best option for this club and its members will be chosen, and not just hand truckloads of money to the State Government and the TAB and make a small profit for the club. If you are so angry about no TAB why did'nt you jump up and down 2 or 3 years ago when the previous board took it away and replaced it with no other option.

If you are so savy on all things political Jesus, you would know there is a landmark case in Victoria at present, to change gaming laws for establishments to choose their betting agencies, and stop the monopoly government agencies have. Could be a reason why the decision to reinstate the TAB at this time is on hold....do you think? I also apologise for the signing of Paul Osbourne, Justine Poore, Shane Shackleton and Tamana Tahu, and I am sincerely sorry that we are charging for the semi's with the players now jumping out of their skin being part of a new beginning. I am sorry we let the kids run on the field on the weekend, and I am sorry we had all those noisy people in the club and the auditorium on Sunday night for the presenation. I sincerely apolgise for nothing happening over the last few months Jesus????? Seriously mate, give yourself an uppercut, and leave your arguments to when you are having a shave in the mirror in the mornings. Or the other option would be to support whats happening, and be a little constructive instead of negative.....is that possible????????

 

[MarkInTheStands]

I also apologise for the signing of Paul Osbourne, Justine Poore, Shane Shackleton and Tamana Tahu,

Any relation to Justin?

Good to see the club thinking outside the box and signing a female athlete to the top 25

Just kidding 7's

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

I totally dig it, Sanga.

But this doesn't come from a desire to have a bitch session. It came from the fact that multiple people were commenting about it on Sunday and we actually had to send one guy out of the LC to Church St. because he wanted to have a bet.

As I've already said, some things are gonna take ages. HoF is one example. On the other hand, some things shouldn't take ages and as has been said by the likes of barty in this thread there is no reason why we shouldn't be allowed to ask questions about what's going on, especially since I'm having to send people out of the LC to place their bets.

Now I can dig that some people didn't like the title but I didn't start this thread. I simply supported the question based on the fact that I was with Scorps in the LC when the questions were being asked by patrons and I was directing them to venues outside the LC. Some have said the TAB is a minor issue but in regards to what I have just said I somewhat beg to differ.

On the same note, if I can put something else forward whilst I seem to have an opportunity to interact with you...

Speaking of turning people away from the LC, there's a whole bunch that will be spending the pre-game time period on Saturday before the Warriors game at another venue. When looking forward with the Club, this might be something that should be kept in mind. Obviously nothing can be done about it before Saturday but we unfortunately have to put up with the likes of Col, Twiz and Haynzy on several occasions throughout the year and so if we have to suffer through that pain it might be good if the LC is sucking down our misery dollars instead of places such as the R&C.

Cheers, and thanks for taking the time to post.

 

[Sangreal 86]

Any relation to Justin?

Good to see the club thinking outside the box and signing a female athlete to the top 25

Just kidding 7's

I think I may cop a bagging for that spelling stuff up Mark, and I much appreciate you bringing it to light....hows the health kick going?

 

[Gronk]

I was of the opinion the name Jesus was associated with positive, happy thoughts, encouraging people to see the best in all, and be patient for others to achieve their goals, not death ride something you supposedly love, and denigrate people's views on what they believe, who also love the club. Perhaps you should think of another handle to call yourself and have a Bex and a lay down.

I cannot speak for the board on any level, and do not intend answering anything on their behalf, but I will have a crack at you for putting the slipper into good people after 3 months.The workload these people have, and the hours they are putting in to give you the club you deserve, is beyond reproach. But apparently you and your mate know better than anyone and have all the answers, and damn the consequences.

I promised you guys before the election that there will be a TAB or equivalent in Sterlo's, and there will once the management investigations within the Leagues Club are completed.
I know for a fact that a meeting with one betting agency occurred 2 weeks ago, and I know all options are being viewed at this time. From the day campaigning started, it was stated that all avenues for this club to make money would be investigated.

Due diligence will be done on every option by the directors and management of this club, and the best option for this club and its members will be chosen, and not just hand truckloads of money to the State Government and the TAB and make a small profit for the club. If you are so angry about no TAB why did'nt you jump up and down 2 or 3 years ago when the previous board took it away and replaced it with no other option.

If you are so savy on all things political Jesus, you would know there is a landmark case in Victoria at present, to change gaming laws for establishments to choose their betting agencies, and stop the monopoly government agencies have. Could be a reason why the decision to reinstate the TAB at this time is on hold....do you think? I also apologise for the signing of Paul Osbourne, Justine Poore, Shane Shackleton and Tamana Tahu, and I am sincerely sorry that we are charging for the semi's with the players now jumping out of their skin being part of a new beginning. I am sorry we let the kids run on the field on the weekend, and I am sorry we had all those noisy people in the club and the auditorium on Sunday night for the presenation. I sincerely apolgise for nothing happening over the last few months Jesus????? Seriously mate, give yourself an uppercut, and leave your arguments to when you are having a shave in the mirror in the mornings. Or the other option would be to support whats happening, and be a little constructive instead of negative.....is that possible????????

Perhaps a little bit of communication to the LC/FC members would avoid a thread like this ? ;-)