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3rd ODI: Australia v Sri Lanka at Brisbane Jan 18, 2013

AlwaysGreen

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Maybe the reason the players are so even is because of the rotation policy Clarkey, you pedestrian. How can Starc for example develop as a player and better himself if he is rotated by notch? How does Khawaja establish himself in the team if he's rotated out (for Steve Smith FFS) after one game?

Clarke is turning into a yes man.
 

Red Bear

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I agree rotating in tests is ridiculous, rotation in ODI's is no big deal, so many f**king useless games anyway. Ideally there's be pretty minimal cross over between the ODI side and the test side anyway (for example I would have completely different bowling lineups between the two forms, Starc Johnson and Mckay + Spinner for ODI's compared to Patto Siddle Bird Lyon for the test matches).
 
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Back in the good old days, if you were thought to be good enough to get a chance, once you were picked you were given a fair tilt at showing your wares.

Under this current policy, the likes of Steve Waugh and Matt Hayden, two blokes who took quite a while to find their feet and did so only through persistance on behalf of the selectors, they would never have kicked on. As we all know, they both went on to repay the selectors faith ten fold.

Someone like Usman, could very well go on to be a batsmen in a similar mould to S. Waugh if the selectors persist with him, but by the looks of things, we may never know. If he kicks on under this current policy, it will be an absolute miracle imo. Hows a bloke ever supposed to develop any confidence if he's given the flick after being run out in his debut? Even if he gets another shot in three or four games time, whats the poor bastard supposed to think? He'll be shitting bricks at the prospect of making a minor error and being sat out again for several weeks / months.

Far better off saying "Here's your shot Usman. We'll give you 4 or 5 games at this level to show us something, regardless."
 

Xfactor1979

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Under this current policy, the likes of Steve Waugh and Matt Hayden, two blokes who took quite a while to find their feet and did so only through persistance on behalf of the selectors, they would never have kicked on. As we all know, they both went on to repay the selectors faith ten fold.

Or Rob Quiney? :lol:

The ABC grandstand team were comparing him to Faf Duplessis during the South African series

They dedicated some time to talk about Rob Quiney on ABC Grandstand too

  • Rob Quiney is a guy who can do everything, he finds the easy things too easy to do, because he often couldnt bother about the small things, thats what made him a late bloomer

  • Rob Quiney - like Faf Duplessis - is the type of guy all the teammates try to back up, regardless of whether or not he fails or not
:crazy::crazy::crazy:
 

Earl

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If only the Faf could have made 9 in Brisbane. It might still be playing test cricket.....
 
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Obviously the people identifying the talent were a bit better at the job in the old days as well.

Although I do remember Hayden looking like absolute balls for quite some time in Internationals and back in the day, those that had not watched him in Domestic cricket could not believe that he kept getting a run.

But yeah, Quiney is balls and has been from the word go. How he got a run in those tests against SA in front of someone like Kwaja is beyond me.
 

Earl

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Players are being picked on the back of 1 or 2 good performances at state level.

10 - 15 years ago you needed 2 great sheild seasons under your belt to even be considered.
 
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Players are being picked on the back of 1 or 2 good performances at state level.

10 - 15 years ago you needed 2 great sheild seasons under your belt to even be considered.

Yes.

It took Hayden about 4 or 5 years to become a regular. He would score a tonne of runs in shield, get picked for Australia and fail 4 or 5 times. Then he'd be sent back to shield where he'd top the runs again and eventually get another call up. He just scored too many runs at domestic level to be ignored and eventually persistance paid off.

But yeah, you had to be the top or near the top run scorer in domestic cricket for at least two years to get a look in as a batsman. Look at guys like Mike Hussey and Darren Lehman. They were consistantly phenomal at domestic level but could not break into the team. The depth of talent was unbelievable back then.

Those were the days...
 

IanG

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Australian XI: MJ Clarke*, GJ Bailey, BCJ Cutting, XJ Doherty, MC Henriques, PJ Hughes, DJ Hussey, MG Johnson, CJ McKay, GJ Maxwell, MA Starc, MS Wade†, DA Warner
 

Horrie Is God

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Australian XI: MJ Clarke*, GJ Bailey, BCJ Cutting, XJ Doherty, MC Henriques, PJ Hughes, DJ Hussey, MG Johnson, CJ McKay, GJ Maxwell, MA Starc, MS Wade?, DA Warner

You sure..

I count 13..

The line-up: Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Hussey, Bailey, Wade, Henriques, Johnson, Starc, McKay, Doherty.
 

Hallatia

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Sri Lanka: Dilshan, Tharanga, Mahela, Thirimanne, Kushal Perera, Mathews, J Mendis, T Perera, Kulasekara, Malingta, Eranga.
 

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