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3rd Test: Australia V. Panikstan, 14 Jan Bellreive Oval

Twizzle

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it rally is about time our skipper and his second in charge stood up

this is their first sand all summer
 

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Well we are on top an dthat is the main thing, disappointing that Sunshine did not go on against a popgun attack
 

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Well we are on top an dthat is the main thing, disappointing that Sunshine did not go on against a popgun attack

you're a dead-set idiot... lots of things to criticise about Pakistan, but the attack is not one of them, easily superior to Australia's
 

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Who is a great bowler in their attack...Sami is a pie thrower, Gul is decent, Kaniera is about as good as Hauritz. Aamar and Johnson cancel each other out and Johnson has more performances on the board. Asif is decent but he is no better than Bollinger. Bag Australia all you like but a great attack does not have a team at 3 for 300 odd!
 
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Who is a great bowler in their attack...Sami is a pie thrower, Gul is decent, Kaniera is about as good as Hauritz. Aamar and Johnson cancel each other out and Johnson has more performances on the board. Asif is decent but he is no better than Bollinger. Bag Australia all you like but a great attack does not have a team at 3 for 300 odd!

So you recognize Bollinger as one of the best bowlers in the world. Good for you.
 

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I am saying he is decent, similar to Asif, nothing more nothing less. Not a match winner though. Johnson is our X Factor in our attack, the guy that can rip through batting lineups
 

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Who is a great bowler in their attack...Sami is a pie thrower, Gul is decent, Kaniera is about as good as Hauritz. Aamar and Johnson cancel each other out and Johnson has more performances on the board. Asif is decent but he is no better than Bollinger. Bag Australia all you like but a great attack does not have a team at 3 for 300 odd!

If the Pakistanis catch, the score could have been quite different, that's has little to do with the quality of the bowlers

Asif no better than Bollinger? What planet are you on??

Kaneria is obviously better than Hauritz, and Gul is decent yes...

Bollinger has done f**k all, yes he's taken wickets against the Windies and Pakistan... they are hardly power houses atm

Sami is not playing, and he has a pie throwing record, but Siddle isn't exactly Dennis Lillee
 

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I am saying he is decent, similar to Asif, nothing more nothing less. Not a match winner though. Johnson is our X Factor in our attack, the guy that can rip through batting lineups

Asif has only played 17 tests, but has 82 wickets at 22.46... 6 5 wicket bags, and only played against Aust, Eng, India, RSA, NZ, and Sri Lanka


If he was Australian, you'd have found your new McGrath...
 

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If the Pakistanis catch, the score could have been quite different, that's has little to do with the quality of the bowlers

Asif no better than Bollinger? What planet are you on??

Kaneria is obviously better than Hauritz, and Gul is decent yes...

Bollinger has done f**k all, yes he's taken wickets against the Windies and Pakistan... they are hardly power houses atm

Sami is not playing, and he has a pie throwing record, but Siddle isn't exactly Dennis Lillee

Name any of the Pakistan bowlers that have match winning potential compared to say Johnson..none of them do! Johnson although he ios really inconsistent rips batting attacks apart at his best, he is similar to Steyn in that regard.

Kaniera is rubbish..if he is that good he would have got more wicketrs than Hauritz in the last match!
 

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Name any of the Pakistan bowlers that have match winning potential compared to say Johnson..none of them do! Johnson although he ios really inconsistent rips batting attacks apart at his best, he is similar to Steyn in that regard.

Kaniera is rubbish..if he is that good he would have got more wicketrs than Hauritz in the last match!

Hauritz got his wickets through appalling batting, and that's the only way he'll ever get them...

Johnson is ok, but not sure that I'd have him ahead of the 3 Pakis - he'd take very few wickets for them because they'd simply drop the chances of his pies
 

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Pakistan's bowlers to Australia's fields would be better than Australia's bowlers to Australia's fields. Pakistan are losing this series because of their top order batsmen, Yousuf's captaincy and their inept fielding- nothing to do with the guys hurtling the ball down the pitch
 

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I think it's fair enough to say the Pakistanis are at least on par with us for bowlers on a straight match up. Asif's record is outstanding - almost McGrath like, whilst they're very different bowlers Mitchell Johnson would have dreams about Asif's numbers. Aamer is still raw, but he could become anything, Bollinger is the better bowler today, but as much a fan of the Rug as I am, Aamer will be a far bigger star. Gul is solid, and at worst Siddle's equal, but probably shades him. If Kaneria had grown up in Campsie instead of Karachi then Nathan Hauritz would be a one tester.

As an attack (and as much as it pains me to say it) it's Watson as the fourth seamer that gives us the edge.

If the Pakis could field like even a decent First Grade side they'd be sitting 1-1 in the series and we could have be 5-80 yesterday morning and looking right down the barrell. It's a shame because quality bowlers like Asif, Aamer and Kaneria deserve better than what their captain and fielders give them.
 

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Pakistan's bowlers to Australia's fields would be better than Australia's bowlers to Australia's fields. Pakistan are losing this series because of their top order batsmen, Yousuf's captaincy and their inept fielding- nothing to do with the guys hurtling the ball down the pitch

that negativity is certainly contributing to the Pakis problems

Ameer bowling a metre outside Clarkey's off stump yesterday was appalling

it was saying we can get you out but we will stop you from scoring, some of them should have been called wides

sure their catching has been terrible but its not the only thing wrong with Pakistani cricket
 

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Hauritz got his wickets through appalling batting, and that's the only way he'll ever get them...

Johnson is ok, but not sure that I'd have him ahead of the 3 Pakis - he'd take very few wickets for them because they'd simply drop the chances of his pies

Kaniera didn't get wickets at all..it is difficult to even say that Kaniera has bowled well at all. In fact the offie in the 1st test has bowled better!
 

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that negativity is certainly contributing to the Pakis problems

Ameer bowling a metre outside Clarkey's off stump yesterday was appalling

it was saying we can get you out but we will stop you from scoring, some of them should have been called wides

sure their catching has been terrible but its not the only thing wrong with Pakistani cricket

Yeah, but obviously that's Yousuf and his captaincy; not Aamer and his bowling

Clarke may have dodged a bit of a bullet there
 

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