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3rd Test: Australia vs South Africa in Sydney

KHunt

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siddles still overated, but it pisses me off seeing all the bandwagon fans claiming they have been his biggest fan since his debut:roll:
 

El Diablo

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Only holding on to it due to past results. It has gone.... move on.

a lot seem to forget 2003 when the Saffers were ranked 1 for a brief period. Pollock and co bragged about it despite the fact we'd kicked their arses

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/low/cricket/2622021.stm

Sunday, 5 January, 2003, 11:23 GMT
Test cricket's glittering prize
By Martin Gough

BBC Sport Online

It may come as a surprise, but South Africa are officially the best cricket team in the world.

South Africa's defeat of Pakistan in Cape Town on Sunday saw them displace Australia at the head of the ICC Test Championship table for the first time.

" You can only play by the rules - sometimes they work in your favour and sometimes they work against you "

Shaun Pollock
South Africa captain


It is a controversial ranking, given that Australia thrashed South Africa 5-1 over a series split between the two countries 12 months ago.

But whatever the worth of South Africa's official status, getting their hands on the glittering mace, which has been in Australia's possession for two years, will not be easy.

The first barrier in their way is on the pitch.

Australia could reclaim their title in the West Indies in April before they are forced to hand the trophy over.

The second is within the boardrooms of the International Cricket Council, where the way teams are ranked is under review.

The Championship has proved controversial since its launch in May 2001, with a format that takes each team's last result against an opponent into account.

# The main points of contention are: There is no weighting for strength of opposition.
# Form plays no part, with the last series between each pair of teams counting for points.
# So far, each of the 10 Test teams has yet to play all of the others, so comparisons are difficult.
# The results of series, not individual Tests, count for points, so a whitewash is the same as a narrow win.
# Wins in home conditions count the same as those away from home.

Australia's crushing of South Africa in the home-and-away series last season is proof for many as to which Test nation is really the leader.

" I would say Australia have an edge over South Africa "

Waqar Younis
Pakistan captain


"If they happen to take the mace off us then congratulations to them," Aussie skipper Steve Waugh said recently.

"But I think everyone knows who the number one side is."

Just like a domestic league, though, the Championship is not about results between two teams.

"The obvious comparison is directly between South Africa and Australia," ICC project officer Jon Long told BBC Sport Online.

"But if you look at South Africa's record against West Indies away, Sri Lanka away and India away they are superior.

"And they have played more games than Australia, who have yet to play Bangladesh or Zimbabwe."

For the first time, the ICC set down team schedules when the Championship was launched.

But Australia's reluctance in playing minor nations prior to that - they have played just a single Test against Zimbabwe in the last 11 years - counts against them.

Waugh's men could keep their hands on the trophy, though, if they beat West Indies in their four-Test series after the World Cup.

Even if they lose the series, the ICC's cricket committee could come up with a new formula to rank the Test nations when it meets in February.

Any change could make the Test table similar in style to the ranking for teams in one-day internationals, launched in October, which deals with form and strength of opponent.

"It is a prestigious trophy," said Long, "and it is important that we get it right."
 

Cumberland Throw

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What a shock i just sat through 5 minutes of rugby league chatter on 702, Drew Morphett and Henry Lawson were discussing, Billy Slater, Melbourne Storm , Reg Gasnier, the grand final... Un believable
 

HevyDevy

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Typical of the ICC trying to justify the ranking too.

Anyway, right now the Aussie can't realistically claim to be the top nation after losing series to our two top rivals.

Having said that we really haven't been too farr off the Saffers.

In-fact with Clark back and, maybe, a fit and firing Lee again we could win the away series.

Remember that we were in a position to win all three Tests and only a lack of experience in the bowling attack counted against us.

If Clark and Lee were fit and bowling well, Johnson goes back to No.3 bowler and then you choose between Siddle, Krezja, Bollinger, Hilfy etc, it really changes everything.
 

Cockadoodledoo

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Are we playing for the draw? This is woeful.. We should have been going for quick runs and ignored wickets lost this session to give ourselves 4 sessions at SA.. Should have had a lead of 380.
 

HevyDevy

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I have no problem with this - we've come out and are clearly going for it.

We'll declare in about 45 mins I reckon.
 

aussies1st

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I reckon what we've done is right. If we gave them 380 with 4 sessions and they came out and got the lead down to 300 by the close of play then it would start putting doubts into our bowlers.
 

Twizzle

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it doesn't seem to be too hard to bat on even though pitch doesn't look flash

yeh, thats the only thing that worries me, although its about 38 degrees in Sidanee so it should be failry well baked by tomorrow
 

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