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Jason Maher

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Seriously Jason? Seriously? Never had to fight on a level playing field? You're taking the piss aren't you? Then you mention history. Give yourself an upper cut mate. Look at the majority of Dragons Premierships and see how the rules favoured you at the expense of other clubs.

The Melbourne Storm have no traditional supporter base to fall back on if times get tough. No traditional juniors from which to source players. No leagues club to provide them with endless funds. They have to pay over the odds in a flat salary cap to entice players from QLD and NSW to go down there to live. A club such as Brisbane had a massive junior base and the cost of living is lower there than many other capital cities. Are they on a level playing field? How come they don't get the vitriol that the the Storm cop?

Yes the Storm get money from News Limited - but that's not going to be there forever like a leagues club funding is.

If clubs were allowed additional cap concessions for playing their own juniors the Storm would be further disadvantaged but I doubt that anyone from the Illawarra, Brisbane, South Sydney, Parramatta or Penrith would be here crying on their behalf. Cries of suck shit ya Victorian wankers would be ringing round the room.

The fact of the matter is, the Melbourne Storm are a great club that have prospered in a town where they were far more likely to fail. Due to their success there are now youngsters playing Rugby League in Victoria. If that's not worth celebrating I don't know what is. Melbourne has been our only real step forward outside our traditional area in 20 years - ok, so the Warriors are now also successful, but New Zealanders played league in Auckland before the Warriors.

Most of the dislike about the Storm stems from jealousy, pure and simple. Yes they cheated the salary cap - but it is an unfair cap in many respects and other sports make allowances for disadvantages clubs have by giving them allowances for additional funding etc. They've gotten past the cap issue, have shed players, incurred penalties that would destroy other clubs and they're top of the league. That says more positive stuff about them than I ever could.

Maybe you really haven't gotten over 1999. Go on, that's the real reason you hate them. :p

I was very much taking the piss, and the Storm derro bit hard. :p

I hated the Storm from day 1 due to the presence of John Ribot. I hated them even more when they didn't have to compete with other clubs for a spot under the NRL's corrupt "criteria". And obviously I hated them still more after the 99 GF and the 2000 MCG debacle (f**king Mundine).
 

azza29

Juniors
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You beat the Roosters, the other 2 games where you would have been missing your "big 3" you had byes.

No big 3 and Storm still won? Huh.

And the games we played on the post-Origin weekends were all wins, despite the fact that Smith/Slater/Cronk would have been coming off a 2-3 day break if they played (can't remember if they were rested or not).
 

StormHi

Juniors
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we'll see how good this Melbourne team is when they lose their "big 3" come origin time.

i've always said, Melbourne wouldn't be in half the position they're in now if Gallop forced the entire Storm team (which cheated) to disband and recruit an entire new group of players

they pretty much told everyone to fk off except the 3 best players in their respective position (in the world arguably).. 3 of the most important positions, you take any 1 of those players and send them to a lesser club, that club would build their roster around that 1 guy (ie Greg Inglis), they have ALL 3 available to them

that's where it becomes unfair, no doubt in my mind if they didn't resort to cheating the cap, they would not have kept all 3, no way in the world, we all know there's no such thing as loyalty in this day and age

so any storm fans who say "oh but we're not cheating anymore and look how good we are", that argument holds no respectability because your club is taking advantage of an occurrence which allowed you to keep those 3 crucial players who are now what your team is all about

end of debate.

You do know we hardly missed a beat last year around origin time without the big three and our roster was far worse........

And I love you think we should have the whole team disbanded yet the dogs who also cheated got to keep their whole team just a few pay cuts here and there and loss of points.....

Storm has more then paid it's dues you bitter old twat........

I personally wasn't happy with the injuries that hit the warriors wasnt a real test for the storm and haters will have an excuse to mar the victory....

Still was nice to finally gt one over on the warriors :p
 

StormHi

Juniors
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Which one are you? The douche bag or the turd sandwich? It's hard to tell.

The Canterbury Bulldogs cheated the cap in 2002 and they kept their ENTIRE squad together. All they had to do was pay them a little less money and all was forgiven. Yet here you are crapping on about the Storm should have been forced to shed all their players, players they'd discovered, not bought from other clubs. Players they'd nurtured, brought into first grade and shown the World how good players can be.

After the salary cap thing hit they lost far more than Greg Inglis. Folou had already gone, but they also lost Brett Finch, Hoffman, (though he came back once Adam Blair left), Ryan Tandy, Aiden Tolman, Brett White, Jeff Lima, Willie Isa and a few other fringe players such as Luke McDougall.

You seem to ignore the facts that the Storm have produced Billy Slater the most influential fullback since Clive Churchill and Cam Smith who has revolutionized the hooking role plus they gave league Israel Folau and Greg Inglis, two absolute superstars in their time at the Storm - no all you can do is spew moronic trash based on your own ignorance and pettiness.

How about showing the respect they're due and get over your petty hatred. It just makes you look like a prize plonker.


Nothing but respect for you mate.
 

firechild

First Grade
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And I love you think we should have the whole team disbanded yet the dogs who also cheated got to keep their whole team just a few pay cuts here and there and loss of points.....

I think you'll fnd that most fans consider the 2004 premiership tainted and it has been raised in various threads lately. Both teams should have been disbanded and while the NRL conceded mistakes were made regarding the handling of the 2003 incident, they only went part way towards correcting those mistakes in 2010.
 

LeedsStorm

Juniors
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As a relatively newcomer to the ins and outs of the NRL, I guess i have some degree of impartiality to my opinions. Storm brought the game into disrepute with the salary cap scandal and whether they could have kept the big three together whilst staying under the cap is debatable. However, what's to say they wouldn't have wanted to return to the club that is clearly in a league of its own with regard to coaching? The big three don't make players like Hinchcliffe, Nielsen, Bromwich quality contributors to the team - the coaches do. This is what impresses me the most - the club clearly has a winning culture, regardless of salary cap infringements
 

firechild

First Grade
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However, what's to say they wouldn't have wanted to return to the club that is clearly in a league of its own with regard to coaching?

In what way? As a coach Bellamy has won 1 minor premiership, nothing else. Surely that does not outrate what Bennett, Hasler or even Sheens have done? You clearly have your head stuck so far up your arse you have lost touch with reality.
 

Snappy

Coach
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If we were to grant your your wish and release Slater, Cronk and Smith, i believe Melbourne will still be competive after 1 season. Premiers after 2 seasons.

:lol: And the award for the second biggest derp post of the year goes to Ceme Abbas Giant.
 

Earl

Coach
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In what way? As a coach Bellamy has won 1 minor premiership, nothing else. Surely that does not outrate what Bennett, Hasler or even Sheens have done? You clearly have your head stuck so far up your arse you have lost touch with reality.


Success isn't solely associated with premeirships. If a coach takes over a team that finished last the previous season and gets them into the 8 the next year that to me is a pretty succesful year.

As a result of their own action Melbourne lost 6+ players from their 2010 roster to their 2011 roster. As a Melbourne fan I see what they did in 2011 as a succesful year because I certainly would not have been suprised to finish in the bottom half of the table.

Acheiveing the pinnicale of what ever your aiming for, is not the sole determining factor as to wether or not you have been succesful.
 

firechild

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Success isn't solely associated with premeirships. If a coach takes over a team that finished last the previous season and gets them into the 8 the next year that to me is a pretty succesful year.

As a result of their own action Melbourne lost 6+ players from their 2010 roster to their 2011 roster. As a Melbourne fan I see what they did in 2011 as a succesful year because I certainly would not have been suprised to finish in the bottom half of the table.

Acheiveing the pinnicale of what ever your aiming for, is not the sole determining factor as to wether or not you have been succesful.

I'm fairly sure you'll not find the words "success" or "successful" in either my posts nor LeedsStorm's. He made the claim that the Storm were "clearly in a league of its own with regard to coaching". I would suggest a club that legally played in the last 7 finals series, which included 3 grand final appearances and 2 premierships would be at least in the same class as a team who cheated their way to 4 grand finals which was then followed by a legal* minor premiership and a good start to the current season.
 

Earl

Coach
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I'm fairly sure you'll not find the words "success" or "successful" in either my posts nor LeedsStorm's. He made the claim that the Storm were "clearly in a league of its own with regard to coaching". I would suggest a club that legally played in the last 7 finals series, which included 3 grand final appearances and 2 premierships would be at least in the same class as a team who cheated their way to 4 grand finals which was then followed by a legal* minor premiership and a good start to the current season.

You need to use a little more common sense rather then throwing the dictionary at every post someone writes.
 

LeedsStorm

Juniors
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In what way? As a coach Bellamy has won 1 minor premiership, nothing else. Surely that does not outrate what Bennett, Hasler or even Sheens have done? You clearly have your head stuck so far up your arse you have lost touch with reality.

You sir, are a GREAT BLOKE :D

So much resentment that you choose to attack a man voicing a purely reasonable opinion. Storm really get you wound up don't they mate? :D
 

firechild

First Grade
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You need to use a little more common sense rather then throwing the dictionary at every post someone writes.

Where is the lack of common sense? I made a statement that claiming the Storm's coaching staff are a distinct level above the NRL should be left until they have proven themselves with a legal squad over a period of more than 15 months. Melbourne have had fewer injuries to key players at key times than any other club over recent seasons. That would contribute more to their success outside the finals than the coaching.
 

firechild

First Grade
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You sir, are a GREAT BLOKE :D

That's probably the first reasonable thing you've posted on this forum.

So much resentment that you choose to attack a man voicing a purely reasonable opinion. Storm really get you wound up don't they mate? :D

Absolutely I resent the fact the Storm ruined 2 recent seasons and potentially could have ruined 3 more due to their actions. They then expect everyone to forgive, forget and praise them for the "culture" they have. They have a culture born out of cheating, something noone should be proud of.
 

MuTT

Juniors
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1. Nobody was raped
2. B.S. was declared innocent and cleared of all charges in an Australian court of law.

So if the goal of your moronic, defamatory and obnoxious statement was to make fans dislike the Storm even more, congratulations - you've succeeded.


He is still a Mong though , wouldn't look out of place wearing a rainbow cap with a little propeller on top while licking the bus window.
 

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