A Future Andrew Johns Movie???....

[Raider_69]

the ironing is delicious

Im more concerned about the NSW'men "threw and threw" comment... now im hardly going to be winning a spelling b anytime soon, but even i know that one! :lol:

 

[Big Time]

Im more concerned about the NSW'men "threw and threw" comment... now im hardly going to be winning a spelling b anytime soon, but even i know that one! :lol:

fair call. clasping at straws though when you start picking out grammatical errors. For starters it is I'm not Im. Should be a captital i aswell. i ain't any english whiz, but even i know that. :blahb:

 

[SRB_SEA_EAGLE]

Im sure Johns would be happy to help the actor that plays him , with their " lines"

 

[roopy]

People thinking he's an arrogant wanker who cashed in on his drug problem by writing a book and was only actually sorry that he got caught is irrelevant to his mental health.

See - all the facts are on the public record - in fact they took time to have the leading expert in Australia to give the facts of his medical history on national television just to stop wankers such as yourself from being able to villify him - but your choice is to misrepresent him and to demonise the mentally ill.
Basically, you have made a consious choice to do something civilised people consider to be pretty repulsive.
Take a minute to think about your motivation.

 

[Fein]

See - all the facts are on the public record - in fact they took time to have the leading expert in Australia to give the facts of his medical history on national television just to stop wankers such as yourself from being able to villify him - but your choice is to misrepresent him and to demonise the mentally ill.
Basically, you have made a consious choice to do something civilised people consider to be pretty repulsive.
Take a minute to think about your motivation.

Personally I fall in the category of "this was years in the making".

Of course, I'm not talking about the movie or the book but what lead to the inevitable publication.

I'm not the lone ranger either.

And to be honest;

Basically, you have made a consious choice to do something civilised people consider to be pretty repulsive.
Take a minute to think about your motivation.

could be thrown back at you in spades.

 

[roopy]

Personally I fall in the category of "this was years in the making".

Of course, I'm not talking about the movie or the book but what lead to the inevitable publication.

I'm not the lone ranger either.

And to be honest;



could be thrown back at you in spades.

He suffers from a classic mental illness.
If you don't know this it is because you refuse to listen to the evidence that has been presented as clearly as is possible.
If you continue to villify him it is because you choose to take pot shots at people with a mental illness.
That is what you do and who you are - own it.

 

[Fein]

He suffers from a classic mental illness.
If you don't know this it is because you refuse to listen to the evidence that has been presented as clearly as is possible.
If you continue to villify him it is because you choose to take pot shots at people with a mental illness.
That is what you do and who you are - own it.

bullsh*t Roopy.

People are well entitled to be at the very least cynical, in the timing of the whole "outing".

I could go on but it's dragging up a "corpse" best left buried until such times as a very detailed exhumation takes place.

 

[adamkungl]

See - all the facts are on the public record - in fact they took time to have the leading expert in Australia to give the facts of his medical history on national television just to stop wankers such as yourself from being able to villify him - but your choice is to misrepresent him and to demonise the mentally ill.
Basically, you have made a consious choice to do something civilised people consider to be pretty repulsive.
Take a minute to think about your motivation.

:lol: I'm still trying to work out how me not liking or giving a f**k about Andrew Johns = demonising the mentally ill.

 

[Pig Champion]

LOL at the "rugby league" fans here. If this was a fumbleball forum and the player was an AFL "great" they'd be drooling over the potential "worldwide" publicity for their game.

But it's rugby league, let's just bag off a true "great" of our game. We won't watch it but I bet if the Hollywood spin doctors blockbusted a heart wrenching, spine tingling, based on a true story of NFL, NBL, baseball, ice hockey fallen hero Chuck McGutz you'd be straight down the multiplex soaking it up.

Club fans, not rugby league fans.

I say, go for it. Like Rusty or hate hime, he's good for Rugby League. Joey's story on the big screen sold as a great storyline with a rugby league background can only be good.

 

[macavity]

LOL at the "rugby league" fans here. If this was a fumbleball forum and the player was an AFL "great" they'd be drooling over the potential "worldwide" publicity for their game.

But it's rugby league, let's just bag off a true "great" of our game. We won't watch it but I bet if the Hollywood spin doctors blockbusted a heart wrenching, spine tingling, based on a true story of NFL, NBL, baseball, ice hockey fallen hero Chuck McGutz you'd be straight down the multiplex soaking it up.

Club fans, not rugby league fans.

I say, go for it. Like Rusty or hate hime, he's good for Rugby League. Joey's story on the big screen sold as a great storyline with a rugby league background can only be good.

stop talking sense, that doesn't go down too well around here.

 

[Raider_69]

LOL at the "rugby league" fans here. If this was a fumbleball forum and the player was an AFL "great" they'd be drooling over the potential "worldwide" publicity for their game.

But it's rugby league, let's just bag off a true "great" of our game. We won't watch it but I bet if the Hollywood spin doctors blockbusted a heart wrenching, spine tingling, based on a true story of NFL, NBL, baseball, ice hockey fallen hero Chuck McGutz you'd be straight down the multiplex soaking it up.

Club fans, not rugby league fans.

I say, go for it. Like Rusty or hate hime, he's good for Rugby League. Joey's story on the big screen sold as a great storyline with a rugby league background can only be good.

Dude, any Johns film would be made on a budget less than i earn in a week (which is not alot!), it will have woeful writing, terrible acting, cringe worthy lines and its about a druggo who blames a convenient medical diagnosis for his drug habits

there is not much there to capture the public's attention.
And ill pass

Unless of coure McLaughlin is playing M.Johns and Clancy from Blue Heelers is playing A.Johns.

 

[roopy]

bullsh*t Roopy.

People are well entitled to be at the very least cynical, in the timing of the whole "outing".

I could go on but it's dragging up a "corpse" best left buried until such times as a very detailed exhumation takes place.

The only people 'entitled' to question the diagnois and prognosis given on national television by Australia's leading expert in bipolar disorder would be other professors of psychiatry with 20 or 30 years worth of training and experience at the highest level - and you could count them on a butchers fingers.

 

[roopy]

druggo who blames a convenient medical diagnosis for his drug habits

You really are laying this site open to potential legal action by continually making false and defamatory claims.

 

[Raider_69]

All i've stated is the diagnosis seemed awful convenient to me. Thats a personal opinion on the situation.

the man got pinched for E's. He freely admitted to using a number of times through out his playing days He's a druggo in my books. Also a personal opinion

 

[roopy]

All i've stated is the diagnosis seemed awful convenient to me. Thats a personal opinion on the situation.

the man got pinched for E's. He freely admitted to using a number of times through out his playing days He's a druggo in my books. Also a personal opinion

He admitted to occasional use during the off season and twice during the season over his career.
That is less drug use than the average for his age group.
You imply, and actually state at times that he was drug affected throughout his career - which is completely false - and you know it to be false.
As to his mental illness being 'convienient' - as someone who has worked in mental health for over 30 years I can tell you that I never connected the dots to conclude he was bipolar before it was made public, because very few bipolar sufferers lead a successful life, and i never had a high opinion of him as a man, but after the situation became public knowledge it all fits perfectly together. Every 'character flaw' seen in the man over the years is completely consistant with a person suffering bipolar disorder - and i've seen hundreds over the years - just none who were the best in the world at what they do.

 

[Raider_69]

He admitted to occasional use during the off season and twice during the season over his career.
That is less drug use than the average for his age group.
You imply, and actually state at times that he was drug affected throughout his career - which is completely false - and you know it to be false.
As to his mental illness being 'convienient' - as someone who has worked in mental health for over 30 years I can tell you that I never connected the dots to conclude he was bipolar before it was made public, because very few bipolar sufferers lead a successful life, and i never had a high opinion of him as a man, but after the situation became public knowledge it all fits perfectly together. Every 'character flaw' seen in the man over the years is completely consistant with a person suffering bipolar disorder - and i've seen hundreds over the years - just none who were the best in the world at what they do.

He used throughout his career, weather it be during the off season or not. He freely admits to that, so my claim that he was a user throughout his playing days is 100% accurate. By his own account. You dont become another profession in the off season, he was a professional footballer all year round and he was using during this period of time.
The man is a druggie. End of story.

The fact he came out with this story after being arrested, after claiming someone slipped the pills in his pocket, and then even held up the release of his book so he could squeze in confessions of drug use and bi-polar disorder, certainly gives people plenty of reason to skeptical. Sounds like a open and shut case of someone cashing in and hiding behind a medical problem to me

Though i do find it interesting. You're a knights fan, living in newcaslte. No doubts if you watched the local news and read the local paper, you pretty much knew when Andrew Johns took a dump. Yet even with 30 years experience in the mental illness area, you never once connected the dots... Interesting indeed.

But i will agree with you on one point, i never had a high opinion on his as a man either. Absolute wanker of the highest order, and tbh if there is truth to the rumours, a complete disgrace to himself, your club, and this game... but i guess they are only rumours, right?

 

[roopy]

He used throughout his career, weather it be during the off season or not. He freely admits to that, so my claim that he was a user throughout his playing days is 100% accurate. By his own account. You dont become another profession in the off season, he was a professional footballer all year round and he was using during this period of time.
The man is a druggie. End of story.

The fact he came out with this story after being arrested, after claiming someone slipped the pills in his pocket, and then even held up the release of his book so he could squeze in confessions of drug use and bi-polar disorder, certainly gives people plenty of reason to skeptical. Sounds like a open and shut case of someone cashing in and hiding behind a medical problem to me

Though i do find it interesting. You're a knights fan, living in newcaslte. No doubts if you watched the local news and read the local paper, you pretty much knew when Andrew Johns took a dump. Yet even with 30 years experience in the mental illness area, you never once connected the dots... Interesting indeed.

But i will agree with you on one point, i never had a high opinion on his as a man either. Absolute wanker of the highest order, and tbh if there is truth to the rumours, a complete disgrace to himself, your club, and this game... but i guess they are only rumours, right?

I wonder if your obvious ignorance protects you?

 

[Perth Red]

roopy as a mental health nurse myself I have to say I've never met anyone with bipolar in 22 years of work in the field that could perform the way he did under such pressure over a full season length of time. Have you?

 

[adamkungl]

if raiders comments are placing LU at risk of lawsuit, why hasn't a mod deleted them? He hasn't said anything that Johns himself hasn't said, he's merely given an opinion on Johns based on these events.

Your bias is deluding you. Try to comprehend the possibility that some people don't like Andrew Johns, mental health issues or not.

 

[roopy]

roopy as a mental health nurse myself I have to say I've never met anyone with bipolar in 22 years of work in the field that could perform the way he did under such pressure over a full season length of time. Have you?

No - but i never met other famous bipolar sufferers like Winston Churchill, Mike Tyson, George Best etc etc etc either.
I checked out a site when this first came up, and there are literally hundreds of high achieving bipolar sufferers over history - but you could safely say it's a one in a thousand chance that you will have a positive outcome.

If you are a mental health nurse you will know that a professor of psychiatry who is also the chairman of the black dog institute and has treated Johns for 7 years would not have made a wrong diagnosis - and it is completely unthinkable that he would go on TV and lie about it.