A message for Souths fans

[Jake the snake]

Anasta won't solve The Roosters massive problems next year. Your forward pack will be lacking.

 

[yobbo84]

What else can Souths do?

1. Sign a coach who will be trusted by great players to make them better - Tim Sheens at the Tigers is a good example of a struggling club getting it right. Souths, since readmission, have had two duds, a reserve grader and an unknown quantity. Spend some of those millions and sign Warren Ryan for a couple of years right now.

2. Move. There is no future at Redfern, not in corporate terms, not in sponsor or supporter terms, and certainly not in home ground terms. Grab the spot on the Central Coast, a brilliant stadium and Australia's best rugby league demographic... before someone else does.

3. Stop living on past glories, and expecting respect because of what you achieved two generations ago. Build the future, rather than reliving the past. Tradition DOES NOT win premierships.

4. Cut out George Piggins tongue - he is like the freedom fighter who becomes an embarrassment once freedom is won. He is the Winnie Mandela of the NRL.

1. I think Bomber is doing a good job with what he has. We've seen more promising juniors given a run during the last year than we had in the previous 5-10 years! This is what he was renowned for doing in England, and he's doing it here. Year 1 for him was always going to be about finding his feet/team building. It's the lack of promise for Year 2 that disturbs me.

2. How can you say that when I listed the above FACTS about Souths corporate and sponsorship status? And don't say they'll leave when we keep losing, we've always had good sponsorships. Fact is Souths make news, they get publicity.

Souths will not move to the CC. Nor should anyone be forced to move. I agree though Redfern is not the answer. We MUST negotiate a better deal with the SFS once the Telstra deal is over.

3. I'd call John Sutton, Beau Champion, Manase Manuokafoa, Yileen Gordon the future...

4. Totally agree. If after our re-instatement he stood down from all official appointments with Souths he would have forever been put on a pedastal. Truth is he is the reason we are in the situation we are now, and it makes me cringe whenever he speaks.

 

[Vicious]

Start by re-instating Joey Williams to the 1st grade squad?
Joe is potentially a star 1st grader and has proved that with numerous MOM efforts over the past 2 seasons, yet after having a couple of quiet games he was punted in favour of very ordinary players such as Ben Walker and Mick Moran. Moran tries hard, but isn`t half the player that Joey Williams is. I don`t think the Souths forward pack has really been too badly outplayed by any other forward pack, the Bunnies big weakness is their lack of direction. Joe is a natural organising half, Moran and Walker are not!!!

 

[choc_soldier]

Answer this.
Has Brisbane won a comp or made a grand final since Harrison left them?
Have the Roosters won a comp or made a grand final since Harrison left Brisbane?

Coincidence - wow! That now answers everything... thanks for clearing the air.

Best of luck to Harrison at the Roosters though.

 

[Tom Arber]

1. I think Bomber is doing a good job with what he has. We've seen more promising juniors given a run during the last year than we had in the previous 5-10 years! This is what he was renowned for doing in England, and he's doing it here. Year 1 for him was always going to be about finding his feet/team building. It's the lack of promise for Year 2 that disturbs me.

2. How can you say that when I listed the above FACTS about Souths corporate and sponsorship status? And don't say they'll leave when we keep losing, we've always had good sponsorships. Fact is Souths make news, they get publicity.

Souths will not move to the CC. Nor should anyone be forced to move. I agree though Redfern is not the answer. We MUST negotiate a better deal with the SFS once the Telstra deal is over.

3. I'd call John Sutton, Beau Champion, Manase Manuokafoa, Yileen Gordon the future...

4. Totally agree. If after our re-instatement he stood down from all official appointments with Souths he would have forever been put on a pedastal. Truth is he is the reason we are in the situation we are now, and it makes me cringe whenever he speaks.

1. I think McRae is a good coach with the potential to become a great caoch. The problem is that Souths need someone who is recognised as a great coach by great players... and they need him right now! Why not get someone like Ryan in for 2 years, keep McRae as first grade coach under Ryan as head club coach. At least you will have a bit more bait in contract negotiations.

2. I hate to talk about a football club in corporate terms, but the fact is you have to do so: the branding of Souths has lost focus over the last generation, and lost traction with sponsors, supporters, media and decision makers as a result. Trying to reinvent that branding, and to succeed whilst doing so, is close to impossible in a market as crowded as the Sydney sporting market.

The best option is the Central Coast, and Souths should see it not as a compromise or a comedown, but a huge opportunity for the future. And yes, I completely agree that the decision belongs to Souths and Souths alone, they should not be pressured to do so. But they should deal with the commercial reality in a commonsense way...

3. Souths juniors are and always have been outstanding. They need a successful structure around them to become what they deserve to be... and not be lost to other clubs who can offer them premiership and representative success. Souths are unlikely to offer that without major changes.

4. Nothing more needs to be said.

 

[Dog-E]

f**k me dead I'm not reading THAT!!!

Not given who WROTE it!...I bet I know what it says tho....

So let me just say - bugger off and show some respect Cogburn.

Your filthy club is getting, and will continue to get what it deserves post Freddie - no matter WHO u sign!!!

Even took Fittler 5 years to be any good after his switch to your lot from Penrith!! :lol:

GOOOORRRNNNNNNSKIS!!!!!

 

[madunit]

Is it any wonder that your crap club can't sign any decent players. Souths are serial wooden spooners, They haven't made the semis since 1989, they haven't won a comp since 1971 and the last time you beat the Roosters in a premiership game was 1994.
After reading your charming comments about Harrison I'm sure he can't wait to get out of the place. The bloke has tried his guts out for Souths, week in week out and yet what has he got to show for it. Souths are 2nd last and a fourth consecutive wooden spoon is well and truly on the cards. The outlook for next year is even worse. Playing in a crap side in front of 6000 in the biggest stadium in Australia, the atmosphere will be non existant. Add to this the other fact that Souths will get smashed from pillar to post would hardly give the bloke a reason to re-sign.
Someone said that he should be hung, drawn and quartered for knocking back Souths captaincy to sign with Easts, that it's the ultimate insult. I'll let you in on a little secret....It's not 1971 anymore and Souths ARE NOT a rugby league powerhouse, instead they are a laughing stock. Any player who wants a shot at premiership glory will join Brisbane, Canterbury, Parra, Easts and maybe one other.
That's why Ashley Harrison has joined the Roosters. It's why Chris Walker joined the Roosters, It's why Craig Wing stayed with Easts even though his contract gave him the option of going back to Souths on their readmittance. It's why Bell joined Manly and it's why Orford will join Manly and also why Braith Anasta will announce tomorrow that he has signed with Easts. Anasta, a player who's uncle is the patriarch of Souths. A player who was offered $700,000 to be a rabbitoh and yet through all of this Anasta has decided to join a club where he has a realistic chance of winning a comp and a realistic chance of improving his rep career.
The notion that Souths are the pride of the comp is a misnomer. Souths future is on thin ice and unless they move to the Central Coast and take advantage of what that area has to offer them then they may as well register with the Metro Cup because that is where they are heading!

SPOT ON!

No team wants to join a mob of losers who's trophy cabinet of late holds a heap of wooden spoons.
No player wants to join a team that cannot formulate a winning culture from what they have.
No matter how much money you have bunnies, you'll never win a premiership or a finals appearance.

Your club is f**ked, theres a reason why you were booted out of the comp, and it wasn't just due to money issues. It's becoming more apparent now why you should have stayed out instead of having your sh*tty marches to get your pathetic team back in the nrl to play more of its usual pathetic game, and getting flogged week in week out.

Die Souths, you'll be doing yourself a favour.

 

[aids]

so roosters are getting rid of a serial pest queenslander for a younger skinner serial pest queenslander?

 

[God-King Dean]

Brisbane have been a premiership threat since '88

 

[yobbo84]

Remind me how the Sharks went on the weekend again madunit? Or you don't care because your 'other' team won?

Please, either offer some real answers or save your breath.

 

[Dog-E]

It doesn't matter...Harrison is a fool.

Weren't they sposed to be Premiers THIS season with Last year's top tryscorer Roberts - Joel monaghan 'The Great White Hope' and **SNORT** Brett Firman???

:lol:

Same story for the next few seasons...ship em in - if it don't work IMMEDIATELY - just ship em back on out again!

 

[sydraider]

Cogburn, you are the fly that feeds off the S@#T of the world!

 

[[furrycat]]

Cogburn... 16-13..

You are a disgrace to the game.

 

[Kiwi]

RC is back, I thought he made like the Roosters premiership chances when Fittler retired and Died

 

[Misty Bee]

Cogburn, you are a tool.

The Roosters are on a bigger shopping spree than Imelda Marcos at Athlete's Foot! They are back to teh transit lounge days. Question - the chooks side that will attempt to gougue out a premiership in '06 - how many players remain from the '02 side?

Souths are not the only lowly ranked club to miss out because other Easts and Many have more $ than sence. Doesn't matter - they realise that creating a premiership winning side is not done in the first week of July.

Good luck for the Roosters signing Harrison. At the end of his career, he'll be yet another unloved thirty something that has no club to call home - a Phil Blake if you like.

In fact, I wouldn't mind betting that easts have the highest amount of players at their third or more club.

Souths will do well in years to come. Maybe they don't need transit lounge types.

 

[Fairfax]

Cogburn, you are a tool.

The Roosters are on a bigger shopping spree than Imelda Marcos at Athlete's Foot! They are back to teh transit lounge days. Question - the chooks side that will attempt to gougue out a premiership in '06 - how many players remain from the '02 side?

Souths are not the only lowly ranked club to miss out because other Easts and Many have more $ than sence. Doesn't matter - they realise that creating a premiership winning side is not done in the first week of July.

Good luck for the Roosters signing Harrison. At the end of his career, he'll be yet another unloved thirty something that has no club to call home - a Phil Blake if you like.

In fact, I wouldn't mind betting that easts have the highest amount of players at their third or more club.

Souths will do well in years to come. Maybe they don't need transit lounge types.

Misty Bee, how many did Parramatta sign this year and last?

 

[Pantherjim.]

RC is back, I thought he made like the Roosters premiership chances when Fittler retired and Died

He's been keeping a low profile as the Rorters are JUST in the eight and struggling to stay there. He hasn't got a victory to brag about this week, during his breaks from selling "Big issue" mags, as the Wests Tigers played his beloved cashed-up boys off the park, so instead he's rubbing the poor Bunnies supporters noses into the latest Roosters Salary cap breach... whoops! Sorry! I mean: Roosters latest purchase; Ashley Harrison.

Cockburn is a living example of why people should have a licence for Internet Access.

Pantherjim.

 

[Pantherjim.]

Remind me how the Sharks went on the weekend again madunit? Or you don't care because your 'other' team won?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[stoodamire]

Roosters couldn't make the final before Freddie for quite a while.....now that Freddie's gone. Looks like the same prior to Freddie.

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

Cogburn, you are a tool.

The Roosters are on a bigger shopping spree than Imelda Marcos at Athlete's Foot! They are back to teh transit lounge days. Question - the chooks side that will attempt to gougue out a premiership in '06 - how many players remain from the '02 side?

Souths are not the only lowly ranked club to miss out because other Easts and Many have more $ than sence. Doesn't matter - they realise that creating a premiership winning side is not done in the first week of July.

Good luck for the Roosters signing Harrison. At the end of his career, he'll be yet another unloved thirty something that has no club to call home - a Phil Blake if you like.

In fact, I wouldn't mind betting that easts have the highest amount of players at their third or more club.

Souths will do well in years to come. Maybe they don't need transit lounge types.

I guess Parramatta are the only club allowed to go on shopping sprees or are the names Tahu, Morrison, Riddell and Stringer momentarily escaping you.

Onto Players at a 3rd club or more at the Eels


Stringer - Norths > Northern Eagles > Souths > Eels
Riddell - Roosters > Dragons > Eels
Morrison - Balmain > Norths > Cowboys > Eels

Plus PJ Marsh, Chad Robinson and Eric Grothe who are back at Parra after playing for other clubs.

Roosters players at 3rd club or more

Roberts - Dragons > Panthers > Roosters
Walker - Broncos > Souths > Roosters
Finch - Knights > Raiders > Roosters