What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Action must be taken to stop the AFL killing league

NrlCoach

Juniors
Messages
1,730
Action must be taken to stop the AFL killing league Phil Gould

August 7, 2011

1_port-kevin-sheedy-420x0.jpg


Let's get one thing straight. I am not the person responsible for fighting the advance of AFL into the western Sydney regions. It would appear that since I was asked to become general manager of the Penrith Panthers, people have been given the false impression I am now in charge of western Sydney and that it's my job to confront the AFL. Talk about trying to deflect responsibility. I work for the Penrith Panthers. I am not employed by the NRL. It is not my job. It is the NRL's job. And the evidence overwhelmingly suggests the NRL has failed to properly protect and develop rugby league in western Sydney over the past 10 years, leaving it vulnerable to the AFL machine. This vital region in the rugby league landscape has been neglected terribly.

The Panthers can't fight the AFL in Western Sydney. That's a total mismatch. The Panthers can only look after themselves. Rest assured, I will be fighting for the Panthers and the Panthers will always fight for our fans and our wonderful junior league. However, it is the responsibility of the NRL to service grassroots rugby league to ensure rugby league's place in western Sydney. And despite the best efforts of many passionate individuals, the current programs are leaderless, disorganised and under-resourced. There are too many league brands. No focus to their efforts. No plan to have all these bodies working together. If you ask me to name one man who has taken responsibility for this all-important role of devising a strategy for rugby league to maintain its stake in the west; well, I couldn't tell you. Rugby league needs someone with the leadership skills and the courage to say, ''The buck stops with me!'' Let me tell you, the AFL has got one! Everyone answers to Andrew Demetriou. He also has the ear of our government leaders.

Every major development issue in the game seems to have all our current rugby league administrations pointing the finger at each other, saying, "That's their problem." This is why we have fought so hard to appoint an independent governing body that can give our game the direction it needs. The sooner they take control of the game, the better. However, they are now saying the current NRL partners will not hand over control of the game to the independent commission until November 1. That's way too late. The two years of procrastination in implementing the commission has already cost the game tens of millions of dollars. We can't afford to waste any more time - because the longer we maintain our current structures, the easier it is for AFL to continue its march across western Sydney. Make no mistake; the NRL is directly responsible for the ease with which AFL has infiltrated the sporting fields of western Sydney. If you don't believe me, take a drive around the western areas to see for yourself.

Any rubbish you hear about the AFL not being a threat to rugby league in western Sydney or that the AFL is struggling to make inroads into this one-time rugby league stronghold is wishful thinking, naivety, or deliberate misinformation. Quite simply, the AFL is a monster. You have no idea how powerful, how well resourced, how well connected and how determined this code is in its aim to not only be the No.1 sport in Australia, but to totally obliterate rugby league in the process. The AFL has parked itself at Blacktown, the fastest growing area in the country. In doing so, they have strategically cut Penrith off from the rest of the Sydney NRL Clubs. They are advancing through the growth areas of western Sydney at an alarming rate. They have wooed councils, schools, licensed clubs and many of the major corporate businesses in the area. They have local councils and community-based clubs, many of which used to have a strong link to rugby league, now advertising the AFL and GWS brands, their memberships, their sponsorship options and their merchandise. There are AFL goalposts sprouting up like mushrooms. And this, my friends, is only the beginning.

The AFL has a 20-year strategy to achieve generational change in people's sporting preferences and habits. In the meantime, though, the AFL can't believe the ease with which it has been able to get such a strong foothold in what rugby league calls its own heartland. The AFL is all about ripping the heart out of rugby league. Now, the NRL and ARL's response to this column will be to highlight all the things they are supposedly doing for western Sydney rugby league. They will point to the schools programs, ARL Development and the NSWRL Western Sydney Academy. Mind you, all these bodies operate out of Centrebet Stadium at Penrith, so I have a pretty good handle on what they can and can't achieve in this battle. They are good people. However, these bodies are merely rowboats fighting the AFL warships. Quite simply, rugby league does not have an over-riding strategy for western Sydney. The AFL does.

I guess the final straw for me came a few weeks ago when I learned the AFL was proposing to build a $32 million centre of excellence at Blacktown as the hub of its western Sydney operations. I understand this precinct in Blacktown was years ago offered to the NRL to build itself a showpiece academy in its western heartland. The NRL, for reasons best known to itself, chose to build its new administration block (not a rugby league academy), at Moore Park on SCG Trust land. This is not only a terrible commercial decision, it is the worst strategic decision any sporting body in the country has ever made. End of story. Meanwhile, western Sydney could soon be host to an AFL centre of excellence and community centre the envy of every sporting code in the country. Anyway, all is not lost. I have great hopes for rugby league's new independent commission and the people entrusted with developing rugby league's future.

What I want to do today is bring people's attention to the real situation out west, highlight the need for urgent action - and, hopefully, instigate more open and honest discussion on the matter. This is vitally important to the future of our code. It is not too late for rugby league to show western Sydney some love. I have been inundated with calls and emails from passionate league people offering assistance. Even though I have said it is not my job, together with some good friends and like-minded rugby league supporters, we have formulated a strategic plan for western Sydney that I believe will put rugby league back on the front foot. But to whom do we take the plan? Who will run it? Where will we get the funding? Who will drive the promotion and development of rugby league in the western areas of Sydney to the heights our game deserves? Who will help us engage the communities and the hearts and minds of Western Sydney families? We need to have them choose rugby league as part of their lifestyles, for life. There are a lot of good rugby league people out west working hard for the game. But they need more support.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...op-the-afl-killing-league-20110806-1igjb.html
 

RWB

Bench
Messages
2,814
Anyone who has seen some recent AFL results would realise they're hurting themselves more than us.

Gus is just trying to get the NRL to put money into the Panthers.
 

supercharger

Juniors
Messages
2,008
The sky is falling the sky is falling
Another afl story are you kidding me just stop it i dont want to hear it
so tired of all this drama and hyperbole surronding gws

Western sydney is a RL heartland and always willl be we have managed to coexist with soccer with it also being they're heartland aswell it also has been an area where union has struggled to gain a foothold
An area with a long history in our game and an area which houses 4 professional Rugby league clubs each with premierships each with thousands of juniors and an area with some of Rugby leagues best nurseries

And now all this is to be striped away by the emergence of 1 team
the afl has failed to make an impact in sydney through the swans a team with 30 years in the city and a premiership to their name
We should be mantaning our heartlands and we should have long term plans in place to keep developing our sport but no amount of money will see the afl overthrow either Soccer or Rugby league in western sydney
 

AlwaysGreen

Immortal
Messages
49,188
This is just Gould sniping at Gallop in his usual way. Gould likes to pretend that he's a man of the people but he's just an opportunistic power and money grabber as the rest of them. Let's face it, we are stuck with his mug on our screens because he got a job for life after super league, and he sided with the arl not because he's a white knight but because his own power base was threatened. I'm no fan of gallop and some of his decisions but Gould's constant backhanded attacks on him say more about his character then gallops.

I give Gould credit though, he is a master of hindsight and fabricating a populist image of a sage and fighter for the 'little' people.

He has all these suggestions on how to make league great, some of them good, most of them fanciful but won't put his hand up for a leadership role because it's 'not my job'. Cop out.

As for the afl 'monster' destroying league in Sydney's west - laughable scare mongering.
 
Messages
42,632
I can't begin to say just how much respect I've lost for Phil gould because of that article. There are more holes in it than there are in 12 kilo block of Swiss cheese.

Get help for Penrith Phil, but not at the expense of the game itself you hypocritical old merkin.
 

POPEYE

Coach
Messages
11,397
This is just Gould sniping at Gallop in his usual way. Gould likes to pretend that he's a man of the people but he's just an opportunistic power and money grabber as the rest of them. Let's face it, we are stuck with his mug on our screens because he got a job for life after super league, and he sided with the arl not because he's a white knight but because his own power base was threatened. I'm no fan of gallop and some of his decisions but Gould's constant backhanded attacks on him say more about his character then gallops.

I give Gould credit though, he is a master of hindsight and fabricating a populist image of a sage and fighter for the 'little' people.

He has all these suggestions on how to make league great, some of them good, most of them fanciful but won't put his hand up for a leadership role because it's 'not my job'. Cop out.

As for the afl 'monster' destroying league in Sydney's west - laughable scare mongering.

A good post . . . belatedly
 
Messages
14,139
Jesus. If western Sydney with its four NRL clubs, yearly Origin games, the grand final and dozens of development officers is neglected imagine how badly off the rest of the country is.
 

S.S.T.I.D

Bench
Messages
3,641
This is just Gould sniping at Gallop in his usual way. Gould likes to pretend that he's a man of the people but he's just an opportunistic power and money grabber as the rest of them. Let's face it, we are stuck with his mug on our screens because he got a job for life after super league, and he sided with the arl not because he's a white knight but because his own power base was threatened. I'm no fan of gallop and some of his decisions but Gould's constant backhanded attacks on him say more about his character then gallops.

I give Gould credit though, he is a master of hindsight and fabricating a populist image of a sage and fighter for the 'little' people.

He has all these suggestions on how to make league great, some of them good, most of them fanciful but won't put his hand up for a leadership role because it's 'not my job'. Cop out.

As for the afl 'monster' destroying league in Sydney's west - laughable scare mongering.

This.
 

Loudstrat

Coach
Messages
15,224
Any rubbish you hear about the AFL not being a threat to rugby league in western Sydney or that the AFL is struggling to make inroads into this one-time rugby league stronghold is wishful thinking, naivety, or deliberate misinformation. Quite simply, the AFL is a monster. You have no idea how powerful, how well resourced, how well connected and how determined this code is in its aim to not only be the No.1 sport in Australia, but to totally obliterate rugby league in the process.
Thats odd, according to their TV deal, they are already the No. 1 code! We know that in 1994, and in the recovery years after Traitor League, Leage became No. 1. In that time, AFL went from being a televised sport to 3 obscure cities on the Southern Ocean, to national rammed-down-the-throat FTA - with manufactured premierships to Sydney and Brisbane, money poured into schools to plonk their 4 sticks on ovals, and therefore making them unused. Meanwhile the ugly siamese twin of the NRL lurched on from balls up to disaster and somehow winds up more watched than AFL has ever been, with more places wanting to join. The latter gas got AFL extremely sh*tty, because it's only hope of expansion is to shove 2 Frankenstein teams in places than want/need an AFL side as much as a Siberian brothel needs an air conditioner.

As for obliterating RL - go for it. RL survived the worst that the British monarchy ad the aristocratic class, Nazi Germany and News Ltd could throw at it. AFL - pfft. It's like a tackler bringing down Webcke, Boyd and Cleal, and then being threatened with a hitup from Roy Bell.

Gus, Sheedy thanks you for the free press btw. F*ck off back to the east you pansy and stay there.
 

Shorty

Moderator
Staff member
Messages
15,555
I don't get it, they're infiltrating and they can try all they want....but at the end of the day, the people in this part of Australia grew up with RL, not AFL, therefore they're not going to have the same view of it.
They keep forcing it down our throats, it isn't going to make people watch it....they'd have had a far better chance being less aggressive.

I foresee the AFL looking like morons several years down the track not only for wasting money on areas that just don't like AFL but for ignoring their own heartland clubs (quite a few who are poor).
 

Ray Mosters

Juniors
Messages
237
Even if we did nothing more than now AFL isn't going to come close to being as popular as league in the west, ever. The article is paranoid trash, a thinly veiled attempt to get more money sent the way of the panthers.
 

Teddyboy

First Grade
Messages
6,573
I think Melbourne are a 1 off with there AFL because there r more to life then kicking goals i.e. tries.
Really really really hope the AFL lands on it'a ass as In Ieland I know the GAA look at Soccer and Rugby Union as a threat but they seem to be quite mellow at the mo.
 

Latest posts

Top