AMNRL Expansion

[roopy]

whats the deal with spinners post? 'quote removed'
was there something previously posted?

He removed it - not a moderator thing - if that's what you are asking?

 

[deal.with.it]

yeh thats what i was asking ... cheers roopy
so did anyone see what he posted?

 

[spinnerhowland]

Now would be a great time to follow the Axemen on Twitter and on Facebook to get news as it happens - you can join both at www.jaxaxe.com

 

[deluded pom?]

Is anyone else not a fan of social networking sites?

 

[Kurt Angle]

But sponsors like social network pages as a guage of popularity, in terms of penetration and spread

 

[franklin2323]

Is anyone else not a fan of social networking sites?

I loathe these sites for interaction with family & friends. However they are easy & cheap to run for organisations to get info out. Also to link sponsor or potential sponsors with the clubs. We need a successful US comp in RL. So any expansion is good

 

[spinnerhowland]

But sponsors like social network pages as a guage of popularity, in terms of penetration and spread

Although we use our facdebook and twitter for 99% axemen news (and I do some of the radio show update on it too) the truth is the sponsors now ask for them as stats to determine value.

In the past a sponsor would ask how many people come to the stadium during home games, then it went to how many poeple are on your email distribution list, then they wanted to know how many fans watch out on-line streaming and now most are also asking how many fans/friends you you have on facebook and how many follow you on twitter.

The truth is guys that the social media network now have a VALUE to sponsors and it is basically 2 more websites.

The younger generation is so connected that many of them don't buy the news paper anymore and they TIVO/record TV without ads. Catching them on-line is sometimes the only contact you have and SPONSORS know this.

The Axemen recognized this 2 years ago when we started to biuld our facebook and currently I think we have twice the number as the 2nd AMNRL team - yes it is a pain at times and time consuming, but it is work that pays off when you can throw the figures in front of sponsors.

AND I also know that at least 20 orders for our recent merchandise come due to the facebook posts.

It is the future (or at least a part of it) of advertising

 

[deluded pom?]

I'm not knocking you for using social networking sites Spinner, It's just a me thing. Maybe I'm getting on a bit and technology is leaving me behind. However I would like to see the AMNRL have a proper website and not drip ALL of their news via SN sites.

 

[RedVee]

Although we use our facdebook and twitter for 99% axemen news (and I do some of the radio show update on it too) the truth is the sponsors now ask for them as stats to determine value.

In the past a sponsor would ask how many people come to the stadium during home games, then it went to how many poeple are on your email distribution list, then they wanted to know how many fans watch out on-line streaming and now most are also asking how many fans/friends you you have on facebook and how many follow you on twitter.

The truth is guys that the social media network now have a VALUE to sponsors and it is basically 2 more websites.

The younger generation is so connected that many of them don't buy the news paper anymore and they TIVO/record TV without ads. Catching them on-line is sometimes the only contact you have and SPONSORS know this.

The Axemen recognized this 2 years ago when we started to biuld our facebook and currently I think we have twice the number as the 2nd AMNRL team - yes it is a pain at times and time consuming, but it is work that pays off when you can throw the figures in front of sponsors.

AND I also know that at least 20 orders for our recent merchandise come due to the facebook posts.

It is the future (or at least a part of it) of advertising

OK, I'm now a friend on facebook.

 

[juro]

What is David Niu going on about on Twitter?

First there are some by vassy13 (forwarded by Niu) along the lines of:
It s a shame that the guys david niu trusted and allowed to be a part of the league and some the usa tomahawks are now turning on him

Then you have this one from Niu:
Legend! RT @soeschger: @davidniu7 Some people want to put their own SPIN on things but then again selfish is wholly different then...

Is this suggesting something about Spinner Howland being involved?

 

[deal.with.it]

I asked this same question on the other AMNRL critique thread.
I didnt pick up on the "SPIN" part ... but i would be shocked if that was the case. Thought spinner was doing a lot of work down in florida, especially the atlantic cup. And the axemen are the most professional outfit in the league in my opinion.
Really need someone to explain what is going on, rather than just a heap of gossip and crap talk on twitter.
Niu surely did get plenty of attention though ...

 

[joshreading]

"I see that history may repeated itself...anyone remember a certain guy who ran the usrl?seems he trained his apprentice well" Vassy - Marcus Vass (forget his full name)

It would seem to be aimed at Spinner. The reality is though that RL in the US does need a swift kick up the butt and it does need to out grow Nui. Nui has no doubt done a good job but it must become bigger then one man and at present it seems to only fall back to him when it is clear there are others that can help send it to another level.

 

[deal.with.it]

surely it wasnt spinner he is referring to ...
Niu has previously said he has a group of executives working with him
surely its not just him ...
does anyone know if he has another job? or does AMNRL sponsorship pay his way?

 

[juro]

So the AMNRL is in need of an independent commission? ;-)

 

[deal.with.it]

the AMNRL is in need of spreading some fcking light on everything
it's worse than bush footy in nsw ...
sick of the twitter
sure it spreads the news, but ffs they need a website more than ever
this is not good enough
When does the RLIF review the organising bodies in control in each country?
could it by time for a change in the usa just like italia and russia ?

 

[spinnerhowland]

Guys, there is some stuff going on but there are TWO sides to every story - we are NOT about to start a smear campaign on twitter or facebook about any of this. We will release a statement soon in regards to this very soon.
I need to make it clear that all of this is NOT an Axemen lead directive and NOT something that I am in charge of. We (the Axemen) are just one of 6 of the AMNRL clubs who have EQUALLY asked for some changes in the AMNRL - sorry guys, I am not about to compromise our integrity and post details here on the forum - you are all welcome to send a note at the CONTACT US on the Axemen website and I will add your name to the email list so you get any info we release will come to you. We are NOT going to start a twitter or facebook deal with this - we had done all we could to keep this an internal approach to the AMNRL to keep the integrity of the game safe and we will continue that approach

 

[roopy]

I hope no one is lost to the game because of this.
The AMNRL is strong enough to survive anything i think, but it can't afford to lose good people. It's still too small for that.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

slow and steady wins the race.

no need for any bs, you guys are growing every year and that's all that matters in the end.

Good luck to all in regards to what happens.

yeah we want to see growth, but without money, the amnrl is doing the right thing right now.

If a billionaire comes along, then talk.

Up until now, I'm impressed.

Spinner, a fair few of us have watched you and everyone eles grow the game over there in the last 13 years and we have followed it closely, keep up the great work.

If guys at planet Rugby/american Rugby are impressed, you must be doing something right.

 

[spinnerhowland]

slow and steady wins the race.

no need for any bs, you guys are growing every year and that's all that matters in the end.

Good luck to all in regards to what happens.

yeah we want to see growth, but without money, the amnrl is doing the right thing right now.

If a billionaire comes along, then talk.

Up until now, I'm impressed.

Spinner, a fair few of us have watched you and everyone eles grow the game over there in the last 13 years and we have followed it closely, keep up the great work.

If guys at planet Rugby/american Rugby are impressed, you must be doing something right.

Thanks mate - at the moment kinds words of support are few. I am sure it will all be revealed soon. Yes it is tough to keep quiet with all that is being said and directed at me, but our approach was a professional one and I plan on keeping it directed as progress for RL in the USA.
I don't really feel the need to respond to assumption (or perceptions) to be honest, we feel that the achievements of the Axemen are our resume and that speaks for us. We have ALWAYS put the game first and done everything we can to help promote RL and the AMNRL.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Why does RL always get itself into these situations? Without making assumptions (actually I am) it looks like a typical RL power squabble.