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[betcats]

So because he doesn't have the ability to take the field, his suspension can't be served?

How does this rule apply for an injured player?

Because he isn't contracted, is it that hard to understand? Do you think he could sign with a French rugby team if he was on an NRL contract?

 

[myrrh ken]

He is free to go overseas if that's what is best for him, there is nothing stopping him. But if he wants to come back to the NRL after that then he will have to serve the ban after he signs for a club. The NRL is a business not a f**king social welfare charity. He broke the rules and these are the consequences, as stated he is more than free to go overseas if he wants.

He has signed for a club. NRL are trying to justify not registering it yet.

It'd be more honest to say they dont want to rather than player welfare crap. Sharks were the ones to decide to tear up the contract, not the NRL. So bringing in this condition of only registering once they are happy with his welfare is a bit new. NRL were happy just to dish out the suspension

The guy thought he could circumvent an NRL suspension by playing elsewhere, but now gets all sooky when the NRL sees through it and he will have no choice but to actually miss 12 games at some point.

All because he can't stay off the gak.

Now he is saying the NRL haven't done much for him. Without the NRL he would be nothing. Bon voyage champ.

Is he actually complaining? EDIT - okay I've seen that now.

 

[betcats]

He has signed for a club. NRL are trying to justify not registering it yet.

It'd be more honest to say they dont want to rather than player welfare crap. Sharks were the ones to decide to tear up the contract, not the NRL. So bringing in this condition of only registering once they are happy with his welfare is a bit new.

Well they aren't going to register him now he has signed with a rugby union club. Do you actually think he should be allowed to sign with an NRL and a Rugby club at the same time? That is f**king ridiculous. IF he wants to go then he can, there is nothing stopping him. But he isn't going to serve an NRL suspension while playing rugby union. That is even more f**king ridiculous.

 

[myrrh ken]

Of course not genius.

I'm talking about the reasons given by the NRL for its delay in not registering his contract. Seems to me its a double punishment - since the NRL were happy to just suspend him originally for the incident, now they are coming up with this player welfare crap. The reason he signed with rugby, so its reported, was because of the delay.

Do you understand now?

 

[Nice Beaver]

See ya dickhead.

He and his management thought they'd be smart buggers and circumvent the ban.

Bad luck, idiot.

Enjoy France with your other dickhead team mate, Radradra.

NRL will be far better off without these 2 dropkicks.

 

[betcats]

Of course not genius.

I'm talking about the reasons given by the NRL for its delay in not registering his contract. Seems to me its a double punishment - since the NRL were happy to just suspend him originally for the incident, now they are coming up with this player welfare crap. The reason he signed with rugby, so its reported, was because of the delay.

Do you understand now?

Hahaha why are you so upset about this? The guy f**ked up, I know some sharks fans think their players are above the law and everything but this is ridiculous. Turning a simple drug suspension into an NRL conspiracy lol.

 

[myrrh ken]

Yes hes a d*ckhead, but he was our d*ckhead.

Not really that upset as he chose to bring it upon himself. But for all his off field shenanigans, he was immense for us. But it was only coke after all, not like he pulled some chick's hair

I shouldn't really be surprised that the NRL continues to make up the rules on the run.

 

[betcats]

Yes hes a d*ckhead, but he was our d*ckhead.

Not really that upset as he chose to bring it upon himself. But for all his off field shenanigans, he was immense for us.

It was only coke after all, not like he pulled some chick's hair

Brisbane players actually are above the law so he should of signed there. Toddy would be dropping him off for his flight to france right now and waiting at the airport to pick him up before round 13.

Are you not excited to Holmes in the 1? Seems like he could provide close to the same impact or more..

 

[Blues Riff]

Sounds like he gets his legal advice from the same brilliant minds as Seg - Gallen,Graham & Associates.

 

[Pete Cash]

Its fair enough from the nrl tbh

It means he probably wont come back but what can you do. The sharks will probably be better without him. Even if he was quite good last year.

 

[Danish]

The injured player has a registered contract with the NRL. Benny doesn't have a registered contract while he's relaxing on the wing in France.

Quite different.

So if 2016 was the last year of his contract with Cronulla, and his suspension meant no club would sign him, his suspension would effectively be a life ban?

Yeah, I don't think that would hold up to legal scrutiny

 

[myrrh ken]

Sharks signed him originally for 3 years for 2015 to 2017. They terminated it after his post-premiership shenanigans last year. They then re-signed him for 2017 - knowing the 12 week penalty - and were awaiting for that contract to be approved by NRL.

NRL have been dragging their heels for 3 months. They have a bit of blame on this one.

While the 12 week ban is significant, I wouldnt say its a life ban.

 

[insert.pause]

It's not any different to a judiciary suspension, if he king hit someone on the field danny williams style and then asks & is granted a release from his club, any future club would be aware that should they sign him he wont be allowed to play until he has served his suspension. Should he instead choose to play french rugby he would be free to do so, but if he ever returned to rugby league his suspension will be waiting for him.

 

[Danish]

It's not any different to a judiciary suspension, if he king hit someone on the field danny williams style and then asks & is granted a release from his club, any future club would be aware that should they sign him he wont be allowed to play until he has served his suspension. Should he instead choose to play french rugby he would be free to do so, but if he ever returned to rugby league his suspension will be waiting for him.

He got sacked though, he didn't ask to be released.

He was sacked before the suspension was even handed down wasn't he?

 

[insert.pause]

He got sacked though, he didn't ask to be released.

He was sacked before the suspension was even handed down wasn't he?

they called it a release? either way it makes no difference to the judiciary example, if you are suspended you don't get to play until you have served it in the NRL, if you aren't contracted you can't serve a suspension since you wouldn't be playing anyway.

 

[betcats]

So if 2016 was the last year of his contract with Cronulla, and his suspension meant no club would sign him, his suspension would effectively be a life ban?

Yeah, I don't think that would hold up to legal scrutiny

Except the sharks did sign him knowing he would miss 12 games so what are you saying? Lol its a 12 match ban, nothing more. I doubt the NRL could've torn up his contract, there is a strict drug policy they have to follow, any deviance would have RLPA up in arms. Its not like the hit and miss NRL IU bullshit investigations.

 

[Alex28]

So if 2016 was the last year of his contract with Cronulla, and his suspension meant no club would sign him, his suspension would effectively be a life ban?

Yeah, I don't think that would hold up to legal scrutiny

Huh?

It's 2017 mate. He doesn't have a contract. His suspension starts when he signs a contract with the NRL.

How can he serve a suspension in a competition he isn't even apart of?

If he was unsigned, he would need to find a club that would have him and prepared to miss 12 games before they saw him on the field. Isn't that exactly what Cronulla were about to go through?

 

[Danish]

Except the sharks did sign him knowing he would miss 12 games so what are you saying? Lol its a 12 match ban, nothing more. I doubt the NRL could've torn up his contract, there is a strict drug policy they have to follow, any deviance would have RLPA up in arms. Its not like the hit and miss NRL IU bullshit investigations.

So take it to its conclusion and see if it still makes sense.

Let's say a player tested positive for PEDs instead of cocaine, and got a 12 month ban. His club doesn't feel like paying him for a year to sit on his ass, so they sack him. Does that player have to hold an NRL contract in order for the ban to take place? Does the next club that signs him have to sit him out for a full season before he can take the field?

 

[papabear]

I understand the NRL approach but honestly I agree with where Danish is coming from.

The ban is what it is. Should the NRL not wish to register his contract because of his prior track record then they should make that decision when a contract is lodged.... but I dont think a ban should be moving goal posts pending contractual status.

You cant play official rugby league from this date to that date. Done.

 

[myrrh ken]

If the papers can be believed, he needs cash. Despite his massive contract, he hasn't banked enough due to gambling (and presumably blow) to meet ongoing family commitments. With no registered contract, I figure Sharks are reluctant to make advance payments to him.

It'd probably be the same story with Foran. He was crying poor earlier last year and had the same problems.

Might be hard to believe to you and I but it makes sense. Meanwhile, NRL are concerned about their welfare of course, while they sit on their hands.