Best 17 going forward as from next week

[chrisD]

All those kicks should have been taken on the full and any NRL fullback would have. Basically all NRL fullbacks would have brought the ball back themselves after it too, besides one.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Moylan got too reliant on Mansour bringing the ball back & hasn't added the bulk needed for FG.

DWZ & Moylan are the same height but DWZ is 8kg heavier. He must put on some weight.

 

[umina panther]

People who are happy to give TMM time to mature in first grade and not Edwards are strange. Said it before and will again. Edwards is a better player and he will prove it over his career

 

[umina panther]

Oh and give the captaincy to our 1 player who puts in every game.

Yeo

 

[billypilgrimnz]

Also, I don't understand Franklin's insistence Moylan will be a turnstile when defending in the line. It may turn out to be true, but he was absolutely fine in this respect in his one and only high profile game in that position. And given franklin is happy enough to throw Edwards out on the back of a single game, I'm surprised he doesn't hold the same standard for Moylan at 6.

 

[umina panther]

Franklin is normally a good judge of the game and i respect his opinion....despite how wrong he is about this

 

[betcats]

All those kicks should have been taken on the full and any NRL fullback would have. Basically all NRL fullbacks would have brought the ball back themselves after it too, besides one.

Moylan ran for 200m he did plenty of kick returning, but passing to Dallin when he has the option is just smart play.

 

[betcats]

Also, I don't understand Franklin's insistence Moylan will be a turnstile when defending in the line. It may turn out to be true, but he was absolutely fine in this respect in his one and only high profile game in that position. And given franklin is happy enough to throw Edwards out on the back of a single game, I'm surprised he doesn't hold the same standard for Moylan at 6.

His defence would be fine he defends in our line often enough to see that. Franklin is clutching at straws.

And by fine I mean he wouldn't be the worst defensive half in the game not that he would be a good defender.

 

[franklin2323]

Also, I don't understand Franklin's insistence Moylan will be a turnstile when defending in the line. It may turn out to be true, but he was absolutely fine in this respect in his one and only high profile game in that position. And given franklin is happy enough to throw Edwards out on the back of a single game, I'm surprised he doesn't hold the same standard for Moylan at 6.

If TMM goes to Warriors. Moylan has to be our 6 next year with Edwards at fullback

The thread is for this year. Moylan at fullback will get us the the finals atleast he has done most things in the game so can handle the pressure. Back end of the year I would have no confidence that Moylan wouldn't miss a crucial tackle or 2 or that Edwards or DWZ wouldn't make a mistake at a crucial time.

14 games left. that means Moylan would have to make 280 tackles minimum. Edwards or DWZ would have to make 140 catches under pressure. Both would take a whole season to get ready. This late in the year can only really make a few tweeks. When we can't make semis then we prepare for next year and make these changes

 

[franklin2323]

His defence would be fine he defends in our line often enough to see that. Franklin is clutching at straws.

And by fine I mean he wouldn't be the worst defensive half in the game not that he would be a good defender.

All those bad defenders have a good defender next to them. He'd have Cartwright next to him and at sometimes Latu the other. Hardly good defenders

 

[betcats]

All those bad defenders have a good defender next to them. He'd have Cartwright next to him and at sometimes Latu the other. Hardly good defenders

Personally I think he would make a better defender than a lot of halves, guys like JT and Maloney anyway but if you think he needs a gun defender as a bodyguard switch him with Cleary and put him next to Yeo, problem solved.

Moylan actually defends in the line quite often on first and second tackle after kicks(usually if our defence is going backwards he will rush up and try to make the play) and makes plenty of one on one tackles, he hit one of the warriors players with a great tackle in the second half.

 

[OldPanther]

Personally I think he would make a better defender than a lot of halves, guys like JT and Maloney anyway but if you think he needs a gun defender as a bodyguard switch him with Cleary and put him next to Yeo, problem solved.

Moylan actually defends in the line quite often on first and second tackle after kicks(usually if our defence is going backwards he will rush up and try to make the play) and makes plenty of one on one tackles, he hit one of the warriors players with a great tackle in the second half.

Hi. First time I've posted but I've been reading the forum for a year (had to email admit due to sign up issue). Nice to meet everyone. Just want to say this comment is spot on.

It was mentioned somewhere here that Moylan let in a try in origin but so did Cronk in the same game under the exact same circumstances(Jennings try)

 

[TheFrog]

It was mentioned somewhere here that Moylan let in a try in origin but so did Cronk in the same game under the exact same circumstances(Jennings try)

As I said at the time, if you are relying on an 80kg fullback/half to stop a 115kg+ forward like Gavin Cooper on the line, you've got serious problems. Others were beaten or out of position leaving Moylan exposed.

 

[OldPanther]

As I said at the time, if you are relying on an 80kg fullback/half to stop a 115kg+ forward like Gavin Cooper on the line, you've got serious problems. Others were beaten or out of position leaving Moylan exposed.

Absolutely. I don't think his defence would be bad for a half at all.

 

[betcats]

Hi. First time I've posted but I've been reading the forum for a year (had to email admit due to sign up issue). Nice to meet everyone. Just want to say this comment is spot on.

It was mentioned somewhere here that Moylan let in a try in origin but so did Cronk in the same game under the exact same circumstances(Jennings try)

Welcome, nice to have you on board. I can already tell you will be a great addition to the forum!

As you and Frog have mentioned there aren't many halves who are going to stop a big rangy guy like cooper that close to the line one on one. In regards to the cronk miss, while he did miss the Jennings tackle he had just run down Tedesco from nowhere the tackle before so he did well to even be in position to miss the tackle on Jennings.

 

[PANTHERMIKE]

As I said at the time, if you are relying on an 80kg fullback/half to stop a 115kg+ forward like Gavin Cooper on the line, you've got serious problems. Others were beaten or out of position leaving Moylan exposed.

But but but he's the fullback

 

[OldPanther]

Welcome, nice to have you on board. I can already tell you will be a great addition to the forum!

As you and Frog have mentioned there aren't many halves who are going to stop a big rangy guy like cooper that close to the line one on one. In regards to the cronk miss, while he did miss the Jennings tackle he had just run down Tedesco from nowhere the tackle before so he did well to even be in position to miss the tackle on Jennings.

Thanks mate. Seems like a good place/people to talk about the club with.

Cronk and JT are good at the extra effort. Something a lot of halves don't do.

 

[TheFrog]

But but but he's the fullback

I think it was game 3 wasn't it? He was the five-eighth. He was never going to stop Cooper one on one close to the line and the mere fact he was asked to means someone else failed to do their job. A bit like expecting Gallen or Klemmer to throw long cut-out balls to put Ferguson into gaps and set up the winning try.

 

[franklin2323]

Thanks mate. Seems like a good place/people to talk about the club with.

It is pretty good here. Most on here post stats to back up their opinion. Far better to debate in those cases. There is some gronks on the main page but I will leave you the pleasure of working out who they are

 

[PenrithPanther45]

just got gould's response to my forum question in my email as follows, pretty predictable

Will we see Matt Moylan at 5/8th this year?


Andrew


Thanks for your question


I don't know what the future may hold. That's entirely up to the coaches. At the moment Matt Moylan is the best fullback in this club, and his best position in this club at this time is in the number one jersey.


Thanks again


Up the Panthers


Phil Gould