Biggest improvers in 2010

[Big Mick]

By the by, you shouldn't pretend to know anything about the Broncos, your backline is completely different to most others.

1. Josh Hoffman
2. Denan Kemp
3. Steve Michaels
4. Israel Folau
5. Jharal Yow Yeh

How was mine completely different?

4/5 players correct, the only one I missed on was Yow Yeh only because I totally forgot about him.

Secondly, there was talk of Henjak shifting Te'o into the centres instead of Michaels, hence my prediction.

But either way...still serious question marks there with a fullback who is ordinary at best...dunno why Gerard Beale doesn't get a start.

Plus it remains to be seen whether Kemp can return to form, whether Michaels can actually make a tackle or Folau can play centre at all.

Michaels and Folau are not the best defensive players in the comp by a mile.

I'm not saying Penrith's backline is the best either, but we are certainly going to be a lot better than people give us credit for...and on par with most in the comp.

Add to that one of the best forward packs in the comp gaining yards, and the depth for the first time in the squad ... since 2004... and we'll be more than competitive.

 

[>zuzu<]

01. Patten
02. Turner
03. Idris
04. Morris
05. Goodwyn

WITH - Tia Khalife as back up.

Solid i guess

 

[Big Pete]

How was mine completely different?

An over-exageration on my part but leaving a player of Yow Yeh's calibre out in favour for a player playing out of position strikes me as odd.

The Penrith equivalent would've been...

1. Lachlan Coote
2. Adrian Purtell
3. Michael Jennings
4. Trent Waterhouse
5. Brad Tighe

See how that looks?

But yes, I see where you were coming from but Te'o is certainly behind some other players in that position and will only get a look in for his defensive capabilities which were overlooked last season.

But either way...still serious question marks there with a fullback who is ordinary at best...dunno why Gerard Beale doesn't get a start.

Certainly, Hoffman is yet to enjoy a full off-season with the senior squad so a number of us are expecting a lot of improvement from the kid. I haven't seen a lot of Beale at fullback but in the centres he was fairly ordinary, especially in defence and the guy just needs to find some consistensy.

Plus it remains to be seen whether Kemp can return to form

It does but given he's got some good halves to work with and is no longer fat, he'll be fine.

whether Michaels can actually make a tackle

With his best mate back and his knee hopefully back in the right nick so he can actually complete a full training session I believe that's definately possible.

Folau can play centre at all.

If reports are said to be true, then yes.

I'm not saying Penrith's backline is the best either, but we are certainly going to be a lot better than people give us credit for...and on par with most in the comp.

Posters were talking your backline up earlier in this thread, when really they're on par with the Cowboys backline.

On a brighter note, how's Waddell going? If this kid can reach his potential he'll be making me eat my words.

 

[Raider_69]

1. Dugan
2. Vidot
3. Croker
4. Carney
5. Monaghan

Not the best, probaby the youngest in the comp, but has the potential to absolutely insane

Potentially a complete failure but also potentially, big tall wingers with good speed and finishing, airial threats. A stocky ball of absolute power and strength on one side, a finely balenced fleet footed line breaker on the otherside, and backed up by the best young fullback in the game today. 4 of those guys played U20's in 2008
Exciting times ahead for the Raiders i think

The Raiders have probably one of the worst backlines if you ranked them today, but in 18 months it could easily be the best and most potent in the league. So so much potential for success... and yes failure too.

 

[Dutchy]

Croker is the best up and comer young centre in the game.

 

[Different kind of Rabbit]

1. Wesser
2. Merritt
3. Best
4. Champion
5. Talanoa

Not the greatest in the comp, but at full strength, certainly one of the most experienced. Our problems will come with any injuries as our backup's are-

Simpson
McQueen
Corrigan
Vai Vai
Morgan

Simpson is a good solid footballer and a great finisher, McQueen looked good the limited games he had last year. Corrigan was a solid defender until he was injured for the season. Vai Vai and Morgan lit up the 20's last year, but its a HUGE step up for them now.

 

[coolumsharkie]

Looking a bit skinny, best is a good player but he's a winger for mine.

 

[gorilla with a shotgun]

1. Dugan
2. Vidot
3. Croker
4. Carney
5. Monaghan

Not the best, probaby the youngest in the comp, but has the potential to absolutely insane

Potentially a complete failure but also potentially, big tall wingers with good speed and finishing, airial threats. A stocky ball of absolute power and strength on one side, a finely balenced fleet footed line breaker on the otherside, and backed up by the best young fullback in the game today. 4 of those guys played U20's in 2008
Exciting times ahead for the Raiders i think

The Raiders have probably one of the worst backlines if you ranked them today, but in 18 months it could easily be the best and most potent in the league. So so much potential for success... and yes failure too.

Half the teams in the comp would kill for a backline like this. Dugan and Monas would walk into any side (even if they are put on the wing). Croker and Vidot have massive potential and have shown how good they already are and there is a great chance they will improve. Not fully sold on Carney though. definately not a winger.

 

[gorilla with a shotgun]

The Raiders also have alot of depth in the backs... The backup backline looks like

1. David Milne
2. Brett Kelly
3. Joel Thompson
4. James Stuart
5. Drury Low

The first three have a bit of FG experience and Thompson and Milne should still see alot of FG in thier career.

Low and Stuart have been quoted by Furner as a good chance of getting a start in '10. Highly rated u20's making the step up

 

[Panther_Daz]

On a brighter note, how's Waddell going? If this kid can reach his potential he'll be making me eat my words.

Had a full off season this year and has been training with First Grade. If he remains injury free and plays well in the 20's in the first few rounds i wouldn't be surprised to see him in First Grade by mid season. He has the potential to be anything really, one of the most gifted players i have seen at his age. He is still only just 19 (yes he was just 16 when he played that Jersey Flegg final in 2007)

 

[beave]

great, yet another legitimate thread turned into a p!ssing contest between fans.........................

 

[DaSuperHero2]

Roosters top 4....get on it early

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[Talanexor]

Stewart
Robertson
Matai
Lyon
Farrar/Williams

Foran
Hokko

Not too shab.

No real weaknesses in that backline. Especially with Farrar in it. Hang onto the kid, he's going to be a star. I wish he was still at the Cows...

HOWEVER, I have a feeling Hasler is going to start the season with something more like this:

1. Stewart
2. Robertson
3. Matai
4. Farrar
5. Williams
6. Lyon
7. Foran

Also, I heard Hodkinson is really unhappy at the Sea Eagles and is trying to get a release. Who's next in line in terms of halfbacks?

 

[Ausguy]

Roosters now have Carney and JWH

Sharks are the same old rabble with their best players a year older and more prone to injury eg BARRET and Gallen

Firstly Carney fx up just once and he will he will be gone oh and JWH is injured liek those sharks players "prone to injury"

Secondly you have no idea about the sharks team whatsoever, time will tell if im right and you are wrong.

 

[Rockin Ronny]

Manly will improve - from having only several to more than 5 players charged for assault during the season.

 

[TimmyB]

1. Dugan
2. Vidot
3. Croker
4. Carney
5. Monaghan

Not the best, probaby the youngest in the comp, but has the potential to absolutely insane

Potentially a complete failure but also potentially, big tall wingers with good speed and finishing, airial threats. A stocky ball of absolute power and strength on one side, a finely balenced fleet footed line breaker on the otherside, and backed up by the best young fullback in the game today. 4 of those guys played U20's in 2008
Exciting times ahead for the Raiders i think

The Raiders have probably one of the worst backlines if you ranked them today, but in 18 months it could easily be the best and most potent in the league. So so much potential for success... and yes failure too.

You are selling it short mate. Croker, Dugan & Monoghan are all proven class players. Vidot looks likely too, but hasn't shown as much as Croker/Dugan. I don't rate Carney, but most teams have an average player in the 3/4s.

Backline competes well with the my team's (Tigers) 3/4s which I think is in the top handful in the game.

 

[BIKER_DRAGON]

Rabbitohs and Tigers for sure both will make the 8...Maybe even the top 4

 

[MacDougall]

1. Moltzen
2. Tuiaki
3. Ayshford
4. Lawrence
5. Tuqiri
6. Marshall
7. Lui

Gotta be in the top four backlines out there.

8. Galloway
9. Farah
10. Cayless
11. Ellis
12. Payten
13. Heighington

Pretty good forward pack too.

Taumata, Brown, Daniela, Pritchard, Mullaney, Lazarus, Gibbs, Fulton, Moors, Fifita, Gower, Schirnack1, Schirnack2, Dwyer, Woods, Akeripa all in the wings.

The Tigers should be beating most teams even with injuries this year.

 

[Big Pete]

1. Moltzen
2. Tuiaki
3. Ayshford
4. Lawrence
5. Tuqiri
6. Marshall
7. Lui

Gotta be in the top four backlines out there.

8. Galloway
9. Farah
10. Cayless
11. Ellis
12. Payten
13. Heighington

Pretty good forward pack too.

Taumata, Brown, Daniela, Pritchard, Mullaney, Lazarus, Gibbs, Fulton, Moors, Fifita, Gower, Schirnack1, Schirnack2, Dwyer, Woods, Akeripa all in the wings.

The Tigers should be beating most teams even with injuries this year.

Unfortunately not, it'd probably fall just outside the top 4 best backs. If your youngsters can find their potential and Tuqiri and Tuiaki can fire then definately.

 

[perverse]

there are at least 2 or 3 big question marks in the tigers backline. if they all fire, then sure, great backline.

at the moment it is just a potentially great backline.