Blacklock wants out of Rugby

[Cronulla_Mania]

I dont think he would be lying. He came out in the papers just before he signed with rahtahs and said that he felt lost and needed a new challenge. When pressed, it was quite obvious he was referring to family issues that IMO, looked to take a lot out of him.

Just looking at a law book, it could probably be argued that at the time, the NSWRU were in a superior bargaining position. They were dealing with a bloke who had been through a lot and was probably not thinking straight. If you really wanted to get down to the nitty gritty, i guess you could get in under consent of parties and argue undue influence on behalf of the NSWRU

"Undue Infuence is the improper use of the ascendancy acquired by one person over another for the benefit of the ascendant person herself or himself or someone else, so that the acts of the person influenced are not, in the fullest sense of the word, her or his free voluntary acts"

In contract negotiations, id say that the NSWRU were definitely in a position of ascendency given Blacklocks situation. Whether it was used improperly and whether it was his 'free voluntary act' arethe questions

But as willow said, Blacklock doesn't plan on breaking the contract, so fair is fair

Cheers,
Moffo

 

[Cronulla_Mania]

Ah, you can argue anything in law

The odds of that actually getting up should be 1000/1, but given the nature of our legal system, id take 2/1!

Moffo

 

[Willow]

El Dupe: Are you regressing?

 

[Willow]

The Waratahs Super 12 season is all but over after they were beaten 42-26 by the Hurricanes last night.
NSW were out-paced and out-classed and now have to win their next three matches to make the S12s semis.
Apr 18: Brumbies v Waratahs*
May 3: Highlanders v Waratahs*
May 10: Waratahs v Chiefs
(*Away matches)

Bob Dwyer said he would talk to Nathan Brown about Nathan Blacklock as soon the S12s are done with. Assuming he's fair dinkum, it lookslikely thatthis meeting will take place soon after May 10th.

 

[CanadianSteve]

Gosford cameo may be injured Blacklock's farewell
By Greg Growden
Monday, April 14, 2003 Nathan Blacklock showed better speed off the mark leaving Gosford last night than he did during his short appearance for Sydney. He was off and heading for the big smoke well before anyone had noticed. As for the match against Japan, he was off almost immediately and in the hands of a trainer, unsteady, hobbling and distressed. After another week of drama, during which Blacklock revealed he'd had a heated altercation with NSW coach Bob Dwyer after stating he wanted to leave the Waratahs and return to rugby league, there wasn't too much joy for him yesterday. Frustrated that he has received limited game time since joining the Waratahs, Blacklock was at least granted a starting XV appearance for Sydney. But before you could blink he was off, injuring himself while scoring close to the easiest try of his career - league games included. Blacklock crossed in the 10th minute for Sydney's third try, not getting out of a jog to finish off a three-man overlap move.<br clear=all> But somewhere along the way a defender had accidentally kneed Blacklock's side, and he was immediately beckoning the Sydney trainer, muttering: "I've f---ed my hip." Thus started a slow trek around the field before stopping at the reserves' box, where he hung his head over the fence, obviously in considerable pain. He spent the rest of the match on the sideline, the first half in his playing gear, the second in his civvies, getting repetitive strain injury from signing autographs. He was again the king of the kids. Then he was off. Although Sydney officials claimed he was on the trainer's table getting treatment for a "hip pointer" injury, he was long gone, just having enough time to sign a jersey for Mark Ella's son. As his teammates ambled across the field for a team function, Blacklock, who had decided against travelling on the team bus, was well on his way. And was this Blacklock's farewell rugby appearance? Quite possibly. Officials confirmed Dwyer was not at the match, with the strong message circulated that the NSW coach was seething over Blacklock going public over what had been said during a recent private conversation. While NSW have been adamant they will not allow him to break his contract, some Waratahs officials are starting to think it is dangerous to continue having such a disenchanted figure associated with the Super 12 team, as the feeling could fester. There is growing feeling that Blacklock will now be released from the Waratahs after the Super 12 season.

 

[imported_realraul]

i hope this gets sorted out quickly.

saints need a quality finisher badly.

 

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[imported_Outlaw]

Blacklockgoing home!

 

[CanadianSteve]

Here's the first post from a thread on TFS that some here may take issue with:

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</td> <td width="100%"> <table cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" border=0> <tbody> <tr> <td> Recommend </td> <td align=right>Message 1 of 1 in Discussion </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr> <tr class=ThmBgHighlightDark> <td width="100%" colspan=2> <table cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4 width="100%" border=0> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap width="100%">From: thats tops(Original Message)</td> <td nowrap>Sent: 23/04/2003 9:43 AM</td></tr></tbody></table> <table cellspacing=0 cellpadding=10 width="100%" border=0> <tbody> <tr> <td> i think Nathan Blacklock is a joke and i dont think the league should take him back and i think the union should get rid of him. he is a quitter he had good years at league and once he had a lean season he through in the towel and now rugby is getting tough what a surprise he gives it away. is this the sort of role model you want for the kids. i think the nsw rugby union should cancel his contract and give the money to a youg up and comer or to developing rugby and bugger him off. I think Nathan should go back to tinga and get his head together and st george should stop breast feeding him.
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[Willow]

lol... Sounds like something like our good mate Rubicon would write.

 

[imported_midas]

Heard a report that Blacklock was interviewed on Hawkesbury radio and said that he would be playing the rest of the season with the Emus and that they had organised a car for him.

 

[Cronulla_Mania]

Do you expect anything elsefrom the bloke? He is a good bloke and a good player, but honesty, its a bit hard not to take anything he says withouta grain of salt. Doesn't know if he is arthuror martha most of the time

Cheers,
Moffo

 

[Willow]

Moffo, you're getting Tingha mixed up with Turvey.

 

[Willow]

Blacklock knockers are wankers - click here

 

[Cronulla_Mania]

Im not knocking him Willow, im just saying that he changes his mind quite regularly

You wouldn't be suggesting that im wrong on that count would u?

lol, take the blinkers off

Cheers,
Moffo

 

[Willow]

Moffo: He stayed with one club for the best part of six years and then asked for a release but at no time ruled out a return to St George.

Who's wearing blinkers? I'm only describing the way things happened without the distraction of the media's spin on things.

I've given a brief outline of Blacklock's history. Now, show me your reasoning to Blacklock changing his mind, 'quite regularly'.

 

[Cronulla_Mania]

Blacklock said something along the lines of 'rugby league is not for me anymore' last year when he changed codes.

Now Blacklock says that rugby league is his game

Blacklock said that he wants to return to the dragons

One week later, he 'apparently' signs a contract with Penrith for the rest of the RU season

Blacklock said something along the lines that he needed a break from footy

One week later he signs with rugby union

Shall i keep going?

Cheers,
Moffo

 

[Willow]

IMO, the only source worth taking notes from is the one which comes from the mouth of Blacklock. When being interviewed on TV, I can tell you the exacts words he used when answering questions... a little more reliable then your hearsay and what you recall reading last year.

Moff: "Blacklock said something along the lines of 'rugby league is not for me anymore' last year when he changed codes."

No he didn't. He said he lost the passion for the game. With respect Moffo, you're referring to a section of a player's career when he was at a low ebb. I'm referring to hois entire career.

In all the interviews,Blacklock kept his options open and never made any promises to anyone. Regardless of how people react, asking for a contract release is nothing new and is not going back on your word. Its a breach of contract if he refuses to play.... which he hasnt.

While I fully understand that the media exaggerates things (they think its their job to do that), its ultmately up to the individual how much they wnat to be sucked into the sensationalism of it all.

When saying he lost the passion for the game, he also said he needed a new challenge but would only play for the Dragons. When asked the question about his RL ambitions, he said he would like to return... like I said, he never ruled out a return to RL. He even attempted a joke said he might end up laying bricks for a living.

He never said, 'RL is not for me anymore'... that's your spin on it and quite frankly, I don't know where you got that one from.

Moff: "Blacklock said something along the lines that he needed a break from footy
One week later he signs with rugby union
Shall i keep going?"

He never said that he was not going to sign with RU.

Blacklock needed a break from footy - he only answered the question honestly in that regard so whats the big deal about that? Rugby League is footy... right?
Moffo, unless you've suddenly become an AFL or RU supporter I would have assumed that you still refer to RL as being Footy... I know they still do in my home town.

Is that all you've got? I have to say, I expected something more robust.

Yes, please keep going because so far, you've shown nothing that supports your 'arthur/martha' and 'changes mind quite regularly' theories.

 

[Cronulla_Mania]

lol Willow, and you call me a budding politician

'RL is not for me anymore' v 'Lost his passion'

Now cut the pedantics out. Are these comments really that different? If you lost your passion for the sport, wouldn't that infer that RL is no longer for you anymore?

He said he needed a break from footy! A one week break was it? Come onnnnn

Stop twisting the argument around

Cheers,
Moffo

 

[Willow]

'RL is not for me anymore' v 'Lost his passion'

Now cut the pedantics out. Are these comments really that different?

For a start, the first comment is a fabrication. Also, they are two totally different comments.
The second one is different ESPECIALLY when taken in context with the full transcript of the interview. When you read the full interview, Blacklock dosnt rule out a return to RL.
I'm not being pendantic, I'm just trying to set you straight.If you're only interested in hearsay, I can accept that. But dont make out the two comments are the same, because that isnt the case.

"He said he needed a break from footy! A one week break was it? Come onnnnn"
He has a break from footy for almost a year now Moffo.
When Tingha said he needed a break from footy, he was obviously referring to Rugby League. I assume that in Tingha NSW they call RL footy just like I called it footy in Green Valley. I'm not twisting anything - you're assuming that RU is footy when clearly, many people dont agree.

Not sure what the point is, but if you base your argument on the Private School lads calling RU footy then you'll have to come up with something better.