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Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

Santino Patane

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The NRL will consider granting existing clubs perpetual licences on the condition that they follow the lead of the new Queensland franchise and agree to spend a mandated amount of money on growing the participation of the sport.​

The development of pathways for grass roots rugby league in the local communities has always been a core value for the Dolphins.​
In fact, the establishment of the Redcliffe and Peninsula Rugby League Club back in 1947 was designed to promote the game of rugby league to the local population on the peninsula.​
The Dolphins NRL club will continue this legacy into the future with an even wider focus on our footprint that extends from Brisbane to the Moreton Bay and Brisbane northern corridor, to the Sunshine Coast and Wide Bay and Central Queensland regions.​
Some of these areas of Queensland have been previously starved of the presence of an NRL team, and the Dolphins are already making successful inroads to plug this gap.​
The Dolphins employ full-time staff to conduct activity in these regions to promote junior participation through both clubs and schools.​
This includes a range of education for both players and coaches, administrative support, and designated health education to male and female juniors to generally improve their physical and mental wellbeing.​
It also includes the targeting of local players from the area to ensure they have the best possible opportunity to develop their skills and progress to the highest levels of the game.​
These pathways to the NRL have been cemented in the affiliate club agreements set in stone with Queensland Rugby League clubs the Redcliffe Dolphins and Central Capras, that compete in the Hostplus Cup.​
Coach Education
The Dolphins’ Game Development staff take pride in developing the volunteers in junior rugby league clubs through the important task of coach education. This function is important as more skilled coaches leads to greater participation and enjoyment of the game by players.​
Junior Player Gala Days
The Dolphins hold Gala Days for both male and female players to develop their skills and general knowledge of the game. These events take place both in Brisbane and the regional areas of the club’s footprint.​
Schools
The Dolphins are invested in creating pathways for schools to play and excel in rugby league, believing sport participation is an important part of any education. This has included the implementation of a new competition for Wide Bay and Central Queensland school – The Dolphins Cup – that has alleviated the need for students to travel to North or South-east Queensland to participate in a viable competition.​
Junior Academies
The Dolphins have established academies to identify and improve talented players from the areas, including in the Greater Brisbane, Sunshine Coast, Wide Bay and Central Queensland areas. Participants are given specialised coaching and learn new training techniques to improve their skills and build their chances of progressing to representative and higher grades of rugby league. In 2024 Dolphins NRL are also investing in female academies throughout these regions.​
Great the Dolphins are doing this, but it isn’t revolutionary. Another SEQ club has had all of this in play for 5 years now, and they directly drew inspiration back then from what Penrith had been doing.

I’m sure I’ll get shot down for this, but I’m surprised the Broncos haven’t got the same systems in place. They have great talent identification, but no system development that benefits regions or juniors that have no NRL potential. Growing the game at all levels (not just the elite) is surely the way we build future fans.
 

Perth Red

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Great the Dolphins are doing this, but it isn’t revolutionary. Another SEQ club has had all of this in play for 5 years now, and they directly drew inspiration back then from what Penrith had been doing.

I’m sure I’ll get shot down for this, but I’m surprised the Broncos haven’t got the same systems in place. They have great talent identification, but no system development that benefits regions or juniors that have no NRL potential. Growing the game at all levels (not just the elite) is surely the way we build future fans.
You have to be very careful how you measure this!

There is a big difference between clubs spending money on general Jnr RL and increasing participation, which theres a strong argument isnt the primary role of an NRL club, and clubs spending on elite pathway program for the cream of kids over 16 and upwards, which is the primary player development role of NRL clubs.

Panthers dont spend anything on Jnr RL in Penrith region, but they do spend a lot on elite development for their own production line.
 
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Yeah we do lol.

The Dolphins get the grant just like every other team and at the very least a good portion of their juniors spending would be coming out of that, just like every other team.

So how come the Storm haven't done shit with the juniors in Melbourne?

They get the grant like everyone else, right?

It's taken them 25 years to create a pathway for local juniors.

The grant has been in place for about a decade.

What were they spending the money on?

Sure they might be spending more on top like some of the other teams, I couldn't say for sure in their case and genuinely don't care to be honest, but suggesting that their increased investment in junior development since joining the NRL isn't being facilitated by the associated increase in income and the grant is just sillyness.

As opposed to the Melbourne Storm who've spent sweet f**k all on juniors over the last 25 years?
 
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Great the Dolphins are doing this, but it isn’t revolutionary. Another SEQ club has had all of this in play for 5 years now, and they directly drew inspiration back then from what Penrith had been doing.

I’m sure I’ll get shot down for this, but I’m surprised the Broncos haven’t got the same systems in place. They have great talent identification, but no system development that benefits regions or juniors that have no NRL potential. Growing the game at all levels (not just the elite) is surely the way we build future fans.
Broncos have never given a f**k about junior RL. They're owned by News Ltd and only care about what they can get from rugby league. It's why I hated them for so many years.

Any chance of Brisbane Tigers buying a stake in the Titans?

It would make the Titans very powerful.
 
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You have to be very careful how you measure this!

There is a big difference between clubs spending money on general Jnr RL and increasing participation, which theres a strong argument isnt the primary role of an NRL club, and clubs spending on elite pathway program for the cream of kids over 16 and upwards, which is the primary player development role of NRL clubs.

Panthers dont spend anything on Jnr RL in Penrith region, but they do spend a lot on elite development for their own production line.
Titans have been working with the Flagstone Tigers for years.
 
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pokies. But thats not the point, the point is they are increasing it, because they are getting $17mill a year from NRL. Same as a Perth club, or anyone else who gets a license will do.

I think with Tigers so desperate to get their hands on the png license and now Richo bailing its safe to put a line through Brisbane3 for many years to come.
Queensland didn't legalise pokies until 1991 you dope!
 
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Perth red thinks it’s bc of pokies that rugby league in oz dominated over England

not knowing they weren’t introduced until the 1960s at the earliest and maybe later
A Queensland representative team went over to England in the mid-80s and smashed the shit out of Pommy players that were on bigger contracts.
 

Perth Red

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So how come the Storm haven't done shit with the juniors in Melbourne?

They get the grant like everyone else, right?

It's taken them 25 years to create a pathway for local juniors.

The grant has been in place for about a decade.

What were they spending the money on?



As opposed to the Melbourne Storm who've spent sweet f**k all on juniors over the last 25 years?
Simply not true. They've been running a SG ball side since 2019. But its a fair complaint, it shouldnt have taken them this long to get teams in HM Ball and jersey flegg grades
 

Canard

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So how come the Storm haven't done shit with the juniors in Melbourne?

They get the grant like everyone else, right?

It's taken them 25 years to create a pathway for local juniors.

The grant has been in place for about a decade.

What were they spending the money on?



As opposed to the Melbourne Storm who've spent sweet f**k all on juniors over the last 25 years?
The Dolphins, Tigers or the Pumpkin Pickers had an whole structure in place.

They didn't create it, they didn't fund, it they didn't administer it.

The QRL do all this. ALL OF IT.

Nothing like this structure existed in Vic, especially in 1998 in the midst of a SL war. A few rag tag amateur clubs existed at best.

To create a whole structure out of thin air is much harder to achieve, takes more time and effort and much more investment.

But this is the positive thing about expanding outside your traditional areas.
 

Canard

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Simply not true. They've been running a SG ball side since 2019. But its a fair complaint, it shouldnt have taken them this long to get teams in HM Ball and jersey flegg grades
Frankly you're a dope for not recognising how easy the Dolphins have it, they've had to do literally nothing to create pathways, compared to an non RL state.

And once again, for the feeble minded, this shouldn't be the responsibility of NRL teams! It should be the duty and role of the ARLC
 

MugaB

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Great the Dolphins are doing this, but it isn’t revolutionary. Another SEQ club has had all of this in play for 5 years now, and they directly drew inspiration back then from what Penrith had been doing.

I’m sure I’ll get shot down for this, but I’m surprised the Broncos haven’t got the same systems in place. They have great talent identification, but no system development that benefits regions or juniors that have no NRL potential. Growing the game at all levels (not just the elite) is surely the way we build future fans.
Penrith learnt off the Broncos, gus gould went to brisbane when hook was the coach at the broncos, and they looked at their setup, and created a similar model, but one that suited Penrith, and the rest is history, that was close to a decade ago, as for Nrl clubsnot doing their own development, thats a myth, it in thier best interests to run programs and ensure they have the next wave of potential replacements ready for the teams theyll have in the future, either thru older players retire or thru mid season injuries..
To say its only upto nsw cup and qld cup is silly, every team needs to have pathways in place
 
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