Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

[Canard]

no.



Abdo and V'landys have also talked about NZ2, Perth and PNG as possibilities for team 18. You need to stop citing flippant comments made to the media as evidence of things. I'm not convinced the NRL will go to 20 teams in a hurry, nor will any current teams fold to make way for Brisbane 3.



You're holding some comment I made against me that I really don't care about or am that invested in. I think I said it was a tin foil hat comment at the time. I've made plenty of dumb comments and predictions on this forum. I think I said Anthony Milford would be a once in a generation player many years back.




huh? The Raiders owned some sports club in Logan once, doesn't mean they relied on that one club to prop them up. Once again taking a single comment ridiculously out of context.





You think the Raiders are the only club with pokies? anyway I'm not getting into the financials of clubs, I find it boring. All Clubs get enough from the grant to keep them afloat and the Raiders have more than just Leagues clubs.



What's the argument here exactly? most teams that have won premierships have a few Queenslanders.




You wouldn't know, you've never been to greater Brisbane, let alone Canberra.

You also missed that Abdo and V'landys laughably suggested Melbourne 2 also.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

So any BRL club, or new club could fit the bill then, there is nothing unique to the Tigers about anything you've raised above, IF you take out there pokie den money.

It's "their". Not "there". Get a 10 year old to help you.

If you actually followed the game then you would know that what you just said is stupid and wrong.

The Brisbane Tigers have much more to offer than a pokie den. The club has an NRL standard high performance training centre already built at Coorparoo. It is situated just 4 km away from the world's premier rugby league stadium in the heart of the world's second largest rugby league city. No other bid can match the Brisbane Tigers on infrastructure, commercial viability and potential growth. The only contender is a WA Gov-supported Perth bid that will need to invest in a high performance training centre and upgrade Perth Oval. There's no guarantee the WA Gov will provide the club with an upgraded stadium and high performance training centre before 2028.

Ipswich Jets and Wynnum Manly do not have an NRL ready high performance training facility. Norths Devils and Souths Logan Magpies struggle to exist at Q-Cup Level. So that refutes your bullshit claim that any BRL club can match the Brisbane Tigers.

Why do you lie so much? Post one quote whereby I said Adelaide is a "legitimate" chance of getting an NRL license?

I've seen you say Adelaide should be considered before Brisbane 3. For it to happen the ARLC would need to create it from scratch and fund it for years becaue there's zero interest from the commercial sector to build it. There's zero chance of the ARLC doing that. There's a stronger chance of the Brisbane Tigers working with PNG.

Perth is a strong chance of getting a team, but only if the WA Gov provides it with a high performance training centre and upgrades Perth Oval.

 

[mongoose]

Abdo last commented on NZ 2 in 2021. V'landys refused to talk to the WA Gov at Magic Round last year and told them to "talk to the Bears". The talk has mostly been about Brisbane 3 with flippant comments about Pasifika.



It sums up your position on expansion. You think the next teams are going to be Adelaide and Perth "just because", despite all the signs pointing to the ARLC not caring for expansion into AFL cities. What it comes down to is you're very arrogant and live in a fantasy world. You only see what you want to see and mock anyone who refuses to be as narrow-minded as you. When you're proven wrong you refuse to concede defeat.

You're like the other Raiders fan who goes psycho whenever people mention Brisbane 3 because he thinks the game should abandon established clubs in Brisbane and Sydney then build a new one from scratch in Adelaide.

Both of you are very insecure, too. Instead of admitting that the Raiders make f**k all revenue from football operations, your mate tried to make out they're doing well for a regional city. The fact is the Cowboys earn 7 times more than the Raiders in a city that's smaller than Canberra. Apparently the Raiders don't struggle for talent, despite having numerous players walk away from deals they signed with them out of preference to live in Brisbane, Sydney and England.



Why do you think they owned it?

To make money.



Most clubs have pokies, but that's not the point. The problem for the Raiders is they struggle on and off the field, despite having very little competition in a city of 400k+ people. That means there's no room for growth and explains why they tried to worm their way into the SEQ. It also explains why you and two other Raiders fans are trying to white ant Brisbane 3 after doing the same to Brisbane 2. The three of you are trying to hold the game back in Brisbane because you're scared of your club falling further behind the other clubs off the field. You advocate for Adelaide and Perth because you don't view them as a threat.

Get this through your skull. Your club makes almost 10 times as much from pokies than football operations. Every Sydney club makes more money from football operations, despite having to compete for marketshare in a congested city. If there are any restrictions placed on gambling then the Raiders will be impacted the most.



The dummy half and centre from the 1994 GF represented Queensland and Australia that year. Without them the club probably wouldn't have won the 1994 premiership. So yeah, it's fair to say the club relied on Queenslanders. Another Queenslander, Gary Belcher, helped the Raiders in the late 80s. All three premierships featured Big Mal.



I live in Greater Brisbane you dickhead.

That reminds me.

In 2020 you didn't know that Logan is a city, despite it being declared as one by the Queensland Gov in 1982. So it wouldn't surprise me if you didn't know what encompasses Greater Brisbane.

You are so full of disingenuous statements and strawman arguments it's exhausting just trying to unpack them all.

PR just posted the FC revenue above so where the f**k are you the seeing the Cowboys earning 7 x more than the Raiders? Just more bullshit for the sake of making an argument.

I could say the Cowboys wouldn't have won their 2015 premiership without non-queenslanders Toumololo, Tamou and Lachlan Coote. Bulldogs developed Thurston too. Granville was at the Broncos first wasn't he? Cowboys basically bought a premiership winning team.

 

[Pippen94]

It's "their". Not "there". Get a 10 year old to help you.

If you actually followed the game then you would know that what you just said is stupid and wrong.

The Brisbane Tigers have much more to offer than a pokie den. The club has an NRL standard high performance training centre already built at Coorparoo. It is situated just 4 km away from the world's premier rugby league stadium in the heart of the world's second largest rugby league city. No other bid can match the Brisbane Tigers on infrastructure, commercial viability and potential growth. The only contender is a WA Gov-supported Perth bid that will need to invest in a high performance training centre and upgrade Perth Oval. There's no guarantee the WA Gov will provide the club with an upgraded stadium and high performance training centre before 2028.

Ipswich Jets and Wynnum Manly do not have an NRL ready high performance training facility. Norths Devils and Souths Logan Magpies struggle to exist at Q-Cup Level. So that refutes your bullshit claim that any BRL club can match the Brisbane Tigers.



I've seen you say Adelaide should be considered before Brisbane 3. For it to happen the ARLC would need to create it from scratch and fund it for years becaue there's zero interest from the commercial sector to build it. There's zero chance of the ARLC doing that. There's a stronger chance of the Brisbane Tigers working with PNG.

Perth is a strong chance of getting a team, but only if the WA Gov provides it with a high performance training centre and upgrades Perth Oval.

I thought seagulls were getting new stadium at Kitchener (?)

 

[mongoose]

Abdo last commented on NZ 2 in 2021. V'landys refused to talk to the WA Gov at Magic Round last year and told them to "talk to the Bears". The talk has mostly been about Brisbane 3 with flippant comments about Pasifika.



It sums up your position on expansion. You think the next teams are going to be Adelaide and Perth "just because", despite all the signs pointing to the ARLC not caring for expansion into AFL cities. What it comes down to is you're very arrogant and live in a fantasy world. You only see what you want to see and mock anyone who refuses to be as narrow-minded as you. When you're proven wrong you refuse to concede defeat.

You're like the other Raiders fan who goes psycho whenever people mention Brisbane 3 because he thinks the game should abandon established clubs in Brisbane and Sydney then build a new one from scratch in Adelaide.

Both of you are very insecure, too. Instead of admitting that the Raiders make f**k all revenue from football operations, your mate tried to make out they're doing well for a regional city. The fact is the Cowboys earn 7 times more than the Raiders in a city that's smaller than Canberra. Apparently the Raiders don't struggle for talent, despite having numerous players walk away from deals they signed with them out of preference to live in Brisbane, Sydney and England.



Why do you think they owned it?

To make money.



Most clubs have pokies, but that's not the point. The problem for the Raiders is they struggle on and off the field, despite having very little competition in a city of 400k+ people. That means there's no room for growth and explains why they tried to worm their way into the SEQ. It also explains why you and two other Raiders fans are trying to white ant Brisbane 3 after doing the same to Brisbane 2. The three of you are trying to hold the game back in Brisbane because you're scared of your club falling further behind the other clubs off the field. You advocate for Adelaide and Perth because you don't view them as a threat.

Get this through your skull. Your club makes almost 10 times as much from pokies than football operations. Every Sydney club makes more money from football operations, despite having to compete for marketshare in a congested city. If there are any restrictions placed on gambling then the Raiders will be impacted the most.



The dummy half and centre from the 1994 GF represented Queensland and Australia that year. Without them the club probably wouldn't have won the 1994 premiership. So yeah, it's fair to say the club relied on Queenslanders. Another Queenslander, Gary Belcher, helped the Raiders in the late 80s. All three premierships featured Big Mal.



I live in Greater Brisbane you dickhead.

That reminds me.

In 2020 you didn't know that Logan is a city, despite it being declared as one by the Queensland Gov in 1982. So it wouldn't surprise me if you didn't know what encompasses Greater Brisbane.

I also never said "the next teams will be Adelaide and Perth" more lies...
I said the 18th team should be Perth or NZ2. I said PNG is a pipedream and Brisbane 3 is unlikely because the existing SEQLD teams will revolt. Do you think the News ltd Broncos want another f**king team on their patch so soon?

 

[Canard]

It's "their". Not "there". Get a 10 year old to help you.

If you actually followed the game then you would know that what you just said is stupid and wrong.

The Brisbane Tigers have much more to offer than a pokie den. The club has an NRL standard high performance training centre already built at Coorparoo. It is situated just 4 km away from the world's premier rugby league stadium in the heart of the world's second largest rugby league city. No other bid can match the Brisbane Tigers on infrastructure, commercial viability and potential growth. The only contender is a WA Gov-supported Perth bid that will need to invest in a high performance training centre and upgrade Perth Oval. There's no guarantee the WA Gov will provide the club with an upgraded stadium and high performance training centre before 2028.

Ipswich Jets and Wynnum Manly do not have an NRL ready high performance training facility. Norths Devils and Souths Logan Magpies struggle to exist at Q-Cup Level. So that refutes your bullshit claim that any BRL club can match the Brisbane Tigers.



I've seen you say Adelaide should be considered before Brisbane 3. For it to happen the ARLC would need to create it from scratch and fund it for years becaue there's zero interest from the commercial sector to build it. There's zero chance of the ARLC doing that. There's a stronger chance of the Brisbane Tigers working with PNG.

Perth is a strong chance of getting a team, but only if the WA Gov provides it with a high performance training centre and upgrades Perth Oval.

So there only point of difference is a "high performance" centre.

Our redeveloped $10 million home den Totally Workwear Stadium - theTigers.com.au

Suzuki Brisbane Tigers team lists for the weekend of 3-4th September 2022.

thetigers.com.au

Of which includes in Stage 1 (and I quote)

Stage 1 facilities include new gender-inclusive change rooms, a boardroom, corporate suites and boxes

And stage 3 (to be built in 2025) includes a commercial gymnasium (so a 24hr fitness)

I mean how will any other club compete with such incredible infrastructure!

Good to see you retract your lie about any comments I made on Adelaide.

 

[The Great Dane]

Your mate @The Great Dane has argued for culling Sydney teams on numerous occasions.

Are you so braindead you've forgotten what he's said?

You're misrepresenting my position again, but whatever, I can't be bothered explaining the nuance to you.

My stance on rationalisation of Sydney was based on economics. You're too stupid to understand supply and demand. I've shown you the annual reports to support my argument.

The annual report provided by your mate said Canberra made just $3m from football operations. That's less than what the weakest Sydney clubs make from these revenue streams. The Cowboys make 7 times as much as the Raiders from football operations. So yeah, maybe the Raiders should be given the boot. They're a financial basket case. For years they relied on gambling revenue from Logan and Toowoomba to prop up their failed football club, yet they've got three wankers on here telling everyone else how to run the game!

I selected that tweet and screenshot specifically to prove to myself that you wouldn't actually read the annual report, so thanks for that. I also intentionally neglected to mention that that doesn't include all the other companies the Raiders Group owns.

BTW, the Raiders wouldn't have sold the club's in Queensland if they were reliant on them to survive would they you dumbarse. The Raiders own 5 clubs in Canberra/Queanbeyan, and I'm pretty sure that all of them were more financially successful than the clubs in Queensland.

And why are you totally ignoring their retail and residential businesses to focus on leagues clubs? Could it be because they're known to sell some of those businesses for more than the Cowboys entire worth?
Lay down the torches and pitchforks, I'm Just stirring him up Cowboys fans.

 

[The Great Dane]

I also never said "the next teams will be Adelaide and Perth" more lies...
I said the 18th team should be Perth or NZ2. I said PNG is a pipedream and Brisbane 3 is unlikely because the existing SEQLD teams will revolt. Do you think the News ltd Broncos want another f**king team on their patch so soon?

For the record, despite GROTD suggesting otherwise I've never claimed that 'the next teams will be Adelaide and Perth' either. Nor have I said that 'the game should abandon established clubs in Brisbane and Sydney then build a new one from scratch in Adelaide', whatever that's supposed to mean.

I have said that the next three licenses should go to Perth, NZ, and Adelaide, but what should be and what will be are very different things.

 

[Pippen94]

For the record, despite GROTD suggesting otherwise I've never claimed that 'the next teams will be Adelaide and Perth' either. Nor have I said that 'the game should abandon established clubs in Brisbane and Sydney then build a new one from scratch in Adelaide', whatever that's supposed to mean.

I have said that the next three licenses should go to Perth, NZ, and Adelaide, but what should be and what will be are very different things.

Licenses should go to three best bids

 

[Pippen94]

I also never said "the next teams will be Adelaide and Perth" more lies...
I said the 18th team should be Perth or NZ2. I said PNG is a pipedream and Brisbane 3 is unlikely because the existing SEQLD teams will revolt. Do you think the News ltd Broncos want another f**king team on their patch so soon?

Broncos may not but fox probably do.

 

[MugaB]

Licenses should go to three best bids

Incorrect, if that happens, theyll be more sydney teams, of which we are already at peak for this competition, and will neglect nz, wa, and possibly more qld teams

 

[Pippen94]

Incorrect, if that happens, theyll be more sydney teams, of which we are already at peak for this competition, and will neglect nz, wa, and possibly more qld teams

There's no Sydney bids, but if teams from elsewhere can't beat say newtown for spot then maybe there shouldn't be expansion.

 

[MugaB]

There's no Sydney bids, but if teams from elsewhere can't beat say newtown for spot then maybe there shouldn't be expansion.

North Sydney Bears say hello

 

[Pippen94]

North Sydney Bears say hello
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Who knows where bears want to play but Sydney seems last place for them. Fact perth etc needing to align with them is not a sign of strength

 

[MugaB]

Who knows where bears want to play but Sydney seems last place for them. Fact perth etc needing to align with them is not a sign of strength

Its not about strength, its about what the NRL want, if they want a perth team the bears are happy to play there, if they want a central coast team ditto, its just the bears saying where do you want us, and arlc pointing towards that...
At the moment tho, png are in the spotlight, and NRL wants the Pacific pathways aswell as free govt cash, so whereever the bears are pointed towards wont be till licence no.19... but i believe it will be Perth.. bookmark this

 

[Pippen94]

Its not about strength, its about what the NRL want, if they want a perth team the bears are happy to play there, if they want a central coast team ditto, its just the bears saying where do you want us, and arlc pointing towards that...
At the moment tho, png are in the spotlight, and NRL wants the Pacific pathways aswell as free govt cash, so whereever the bears are pointed towards wont be till licence no.19... but i believe it will be Perth.. bookmark this

NRL want a stable bid that won't fall over. They want to have TV pay for expansion & then pocket money for extra game. Increasing juniors is other objective. Location is secondary

 

[MugaB]

NRL want a stable bid that won't fall over. They want to have TV pay for expansion & then pocket money for extra game. Increasing juniors is other objective. Location is secondary

Increasing juniors is the only reason to expand!
If you want to add metros that aren't already covered, youd relocate one if the syd teams, you need more direct junior pathways, before heading into the unrepresented states or the product will suffer due to not enough talent, PNG is what they want, untapped, unlimited, and cheap, name me the most expensive png player? Justin Olam possibly, Rheece Martin, Alex Johnston... if you had an acedemy setup for this pacifika style team, created pathways direct from all those mooted islands and png, and other clubs picked off a handfull of those players per year, they are easily filling up rosters in those 30 man squads, just as clubs are currently poaching off of the panthers acedemy.. then roll in licence no.19 and 20, knowing there's players from everywhere circulating around, and pasifika and penrith amongst all the other clubs are providing more depth, case in point the dolphins, with both thier halves and mason teague poached from penrith

 

[Perth Red]

Zzzzzzzzzz

come on answer the question, did Ch9 pay anything for Dolphins admission?
We all know the answer, do you?
So why the expectation they will pay more for the Tigers admission?

Reality is FTA will only pay more if they get the new 9th game or if there is competition for the rights. Location will play little part.

 

[Pippen94]

Increasing juniors is the only reason to expand!
If you want to add metros that aren't already covered, youd relocate one if the syd teams, you need more direct junior pathways, before heading into the unrepresented states or the product will suffer due to not enough talent, PNG is what they want, untapped, unlimited, and cheap, name me the most expensive png player? Justin Olam possibly, Rheece Martin, Alex Johnston... if you had an acedemy setup for this pacifika style team, created pathways direct from all those mooted islands and png, and other clubs picked off a handfull of those players per year, they are easily filling up rosters in those 30 man squads, just as clubs are currently poaching off of the panthers acedemy.. then roll in licence no.19 and 20, knowing there's players from everywhere circulating around, and pasifika and penrith amongst all the other clubs are providing more depth, case in point the dolphins, with both thier halves and mason teague poached from penrith

Making money is main reason for business to expand.
Putting academy's in Logan, Ipswich, wynnum willing increase top level juniors most

 

[Wb1234]

come on answer the question, did Ch9 pay anything for Dolphins admission?
We all know the answer, do you?
So why the expectation they will pay more for the Tigers admission?

Reality is FTA will only pay more if they get the new 9th game or if there is competition for the rights. Location will play little part.

Cause you are being a dope and you know it

when the rights go to market then we will see their worth

I would suggest the dolphins are worth more than tasmania the suns and gws combined to networks