Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

[docbrown]

The ARLC might have no choice but to go with the Brisbane Tigers. PNG will require $25m a year from the Aus Gov and will never be popular with the RLPA.

We don't know how much money the Perth business sector is willing to spend or how many active fans it be need to break even without gaming machines.

Brisbane Tigers have $25m in cash reserves and $35m in net assets. They're the safest option for the ARLC. The one thing V'landys has said over the last three years is the business case has to stack up. Politis believes the 18th team should be the Brisbane Tigers or Ipswich Jets for this reason. Of the three potential bids, only Brisbane 3 can guarantee that it will never need financial assistance from the ARLC.

If the Tigers and Jets got their act together and put in a joint bid - even against a Perth team - they'd probably get the 18th spot.

 

[jim_57]

Ipswich’s plan last time was to get a new stadium built in Ipswich. Chances of that happening are slim to none. Assuming they would still want to play other QLD teams at Suncorp or at least Dolphins and Broncos it’s hard to make a case for a new stadium for 8-10 games a year.

No other code is really going to help either, Soccer and Union wouldn’t have any interest in helping.

 

[docbrown]

Ipswich’s plan last time was to get a new stadium built in Ipswich. Chances of that happening are slim to none. Assuming they would still want to play other QLD teams at Suncorp or at least Dolphins and Broncos it’s hard to make a case for a new stadium for 8-10 games a year.

No other code is really going to help either, Soccer and Union wouldn’t have any interest in helping.

A third Brisbane team has to play out of Lang Park. It's moreso about promoting themselves as a team for the South & West which I don't think the Brisbane Tigers can do on their own.

 

[Perth Red]

The ARLC has not shown any demand for a team in Adelaide and Perth. That's a fact.

Can you provide a single statement from the ARLC stating they have a preference for a team in Adelaide and Perth over Brisbane 3?

Vlandys june23

"Perth has to be high on the table now, especially with a premier so passionate about wanting to have a team there. They warrant serious consideration," V'landys told the publication.
“If you've got a government that's going to get 100 per cent behind you, you've got a run-up start. We had a really good conversation and we'll be chatting again

 

[Perth Red]

V'landys has said ad nauseum that the business case needs to stack up. One of the reasons Redcliffe got the 17th licence is because they had money up their sleeve to use as collateral. There's only one potential bid with money up their sleeve. Brisbane Tigers.

My assumptions on Perth are based on what the clubs in the heartland areas are able to generate. I am not convinced that a Perth-based NRL club will be able to generate more revenue from sponsorship, corporate hospitality, ticketing, membership and merchandise than most of the clubs in NSW and Queensland. Perth does have a lot of interstate migrants from Brisbane and Sydney, but at the end of the day most of its population are dyed in the wool fumbleball fans.

Again you dont know what money is on the table from the wa bid consortium, it may significantly more than the tigers have in the bank. Do you you have a copy of tigers annual report? Id be interested to see what cash reserve they actually have.

melbourne generate more football club revenue than all but a couple of heartland clubs, and it doesn’t get more afl centric than in melbourne.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Again you dont know what money is on the table from the wa bid consortium, it may significantly more than the tigers have in the bank. Do you you have a copy of tigers annual report? Id be interested to see what cash reserve they actually have.

melbourne generate more football club revenue than all but a couple of heartland clubs, and it doesn’t get more afl centric than in melbourne.

Fox Sports reported that the Brisbane Tigers have $25m in cash reserves and $35m in net assets, courtesy of their Leagues Club.

I've never seen a financial report from the Storm, but I hear they're profitable.

We won't know how much money the Brisbane Tigers and West Coast Pirates are able to generate from football operations until they're added to the NRL. Hopefully it happens sooner than later. Both clubs will make the NRL stronger.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Vlandys june23

"Perth has to be high on the table now, especially with a premier so passionate about wanting to have a team there. They warrant serious consideration," V'landys told the publication.
“If you've got a government that's going to get 100 per cent behind you, you've got a run-up start. We had a really good conversation and we'll be chatting again

Our game is lucky to have an enthusiastic WA Gov bidding for a team. I wish V'landys would hurry up and admit a Perth team into the competition.

 

[Pippen94]

pretty funny, he says Super League with teams in capital cities is "dots on a map" but he's applying dots on a map to Brisbane.

Dots on map ppl don't like Brisbane 3 coz they have to put 3 dots onto of each other. Meanwhile, they see places like Perth & Adelaide bare. Nothing to do with whether teams will prosper there..

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Dots on map ppl don't like Brisbane 3 coz they have to put 3 dots onto of each other. Meanwhile, they see places like Perth & Adelaide bare. Nothing to do with whether teams will prosper there..

They want to keep Brisbane down to 2 teams to save a spot for Adelaide. The problem with their logic is Adelaide won't be in a realistic position to bid for a team until 2050 or 2060 and the ARLC won't build one. The ARLC isn't going to ignore strong bids from Brisbane and New Zealand just so they can hold out for a team in Adelaide 30 years from now.

 

[The Great Dane]

The fact that Brisbane f**ked up their second team shouldn't mean that they get to skip the line, so to speak, to rush through a third in an attempt to make up for the mistake. You had your chance and you wasted it on a backwater suburban club instead of a club with mass appeal, and now you want to flood the market with superfluous clubs to plug the leaks at the expense of other markets.

The last thing this sport needs is more pissant suburban clubs, if anything we should be trying to get rid of some of them, not adding more. So bugger repeating the mistakes made in Sydney because a different group of entitled arseholes need a club within walking distance to entice them to get off their lazy arses and get to a game. Brisbane suburban comps already exist, and nothing is preventing those people from going to support them if that's what they desire, but the National Rugby League isn't the place for it.

 

[Canard]

They want to keep Brisbane down to 2 teams to save a spot for Adelaide. The problem with their logic is Adelaide won't be in a realistic position to bid for a team until 2050 or 2060 and the ARLC won't build one. The ARLC isn't going to ignore strong bids from Brisbane and New Zealand just so they can hold out for a team in Adelaide 30 years from now.

Nobody has argued that.

 

[Canard]

The fact that Brisbane f**ked up their second team shouldn't mean that they get to skip the line, so to speak, to rush through a third in an attempt to make up for the mistake. You had your chance and you wasted it on a backwater suburban club instead of a club with mass appeal, and now you want to flood the market with superfluous clubs to plug the leaks at the expense of other markets.

The last thing this sport needs is more pissant suburban clubs, if anything we should be trying to get rid of some of them, not adding more. So bugger repeating the mistakes made in Sydney because a different group of entitled arseholes need a club within walking distance to entice them to get off their lazy arses and get to a game. Brisbane suburban comps already exist, and nothing is preventing those people from going to support them if that's what they desire, but the National Rugby League isn't the place for it.

The reality is that there is no demand from the RL supporting public for another team in Brisbane (yet).

The push is from a group (the Tigers) wanting a slice of the pie.

It would be showing Australia that we are insular in the extreme to the most 3 teams from SEQ in succession added to be comp.

 

[Pippen94]

The fact that Brisbane f**ked up their second team shouldn't mean that they get to skip the line, so to speak, to rush through a third in an attempt to make up for the mistake. You had your chance and you wasted it on a backwater suburban club instead of a club with mass appeal, and now you want to flood the market with superfluous clubs to plug the leaks at the expense of other markets.

The last thing this sport needs is more pissant suburban clubs, if anything we should be trying to get rid of some of them, not adding more. So bugger repeating the mistakes made in Sydney because a different group of entitled arseholes need a club within walking distance to entice them to get off their lazy arses and get to a game. Brisbane suburban comps already exist, and nothing is preventing those people from going to support them if that's what they desire, but the National Rugby League isn't the place for it.

This loser (he was betting on firehawks) still claiming dolphins were wrong choice despite the club now being template for all future expansion..

 

[Wb1234]

Vlandys june23

"Perth has to be high on the table now, especially with a premier so passionate about wanting to have a team there. They warrant serious consideration," V'landys told the publication.
“If you've got a government that's going to get 100 per cent behind you, you've got a run-up start. We had a really good conversation and we'll be chatting again

You pick and choose which quotes from pvl to quote based upon your argument

you literally quoted his rusted on afl states comment a week ago

stop being such a hypocrite

 

[Wb1234]

This loser (he was betting on firehawks) still claiming dolphins were wrong choice despite the club now being template for all future expansion..

30k members
Record sponsorship portfolio
Massive crowds
And a promise to spend one million pa on juniors

asset wise richer than the broncos

yeh nobody can argue against the phins

 

[Perth Red]

30k members
Record sponsorship portfolio
Massive crowds
And a promise to spend one million pa on juniors

asset wise richer than the broncos

yeh nobody can argue against the phins

The fact we are already talking about the need for brisbane 3 validates what people we’re saying about how “the” were not the right choice to be brisbanes second team.

dolphins crowds are only 2k above titans first years, they need to stop playing in shtty little suburban and regional grounds and become a genuine Brisbane club. Firehawks playing ft at Suncorp would be avg’ing more than 23k!

 

[Perth Red]

You pick and choose which quotes from pvl to quote based upon your argument

you literally quoted his rusted on afl states comment a week ago

stop being such a hypocrite

haha what you on about? These are all quotes from the same bloke.

 

[Wb1234]

The fact we are already talking about the need for brisbane 3 validates what people we’re saying about how “the” were not the right choice to be brisbanes second team.

dolphins crowds are only 2k above titans first years, they need to stop playing in shtty little suburban and regional grounds and become a genuine Brisbane club. Firehawks playing ft at Suncorp would be avg’ing more than 23k!

Perf going to play in a shitty suburban ground

we’re talking about the need for another brisbane team because the dolphins have been such a success you dope

lmao

 

[Wb1234]

haha what you on about? These are all quotes from the same bloke.

One comment is the opposite of the other

Pick which one you want to run with and be consistent

 

[jim_57]

Perf going to play in a shitty suburban ground

HBF park is double the size of Redcliffe & SCS, likely to be more if/when they get a team. Also in the centre of Perth not really suburban.

Redcliffe is too small for NRL games currently, it would be a good “country” venue if it was 300kms+ away from Brisbane, not 30. At least Sunshine Coast is getting a decent upgrade.