Brisbane2 Bid News

[juro]

I think Bennett knows a thing or two about these "brisbane businessmen".

I also think Bennett knows what is good for the game and what is not.

Is that what the team will be called? The Brisbane Businessmen? I LIKE IT!!

 

[BDGS]

Is that what the team will be called? The Brisbane Businessmen? I LIKE IT!!

No, they are the people behind the bid ...

 

[juro]

Maybe I should have used an emoticon so you knew I was making a joke... ;-)

 

[bobbis]

The NRL needs a long term plan on where it wants teams in SEQ. Its already massively underepresented and is growing rapidly.

Looking at population projections I'm not sure that Brisbane 2 persay is necessary, I'd try to tie the team to some sort of geographical allegiance
Comparing the 2009 to 2031 projections:
Brisbane 1052 000 to 1220 000
Ipswich 162 000 to 435 000
Logan 278 000 to 426 000
Gold Coast 515 000 to 788 000
Sunshine Coast 323 000 to 501 000
Moreton Bay 371 000 to 523 000
Redland 141 000 to 189 000
Toowoomba 159 000 to 228 000

Logan and Ipswich aren't close by, so there's no actual point sharing a team.

Sunshine Coast, Ipswich and Logan will all be close to the size the Gold Coast was when the Titans entered within 2 decades. For mine I'd focus on giving those 3 their own stand alone teams within the next 20 years. I'd say a Souths Logan bid would probably be the best market to start with, Ipswich is too small at the moment. Moreton Bay (Redcliffe) might also have potential. Central Qld doesnt have the population yet.

I'd have 1 SEQ team in the next expansion. As well as another either Perth or CC.

As for only 2 of 16 teams making a profit, that's inevitable when you have one team (the Broncos) with such a huge profitable market. In order to compete other sides need to spend more than they make. Even with a tv deal increase the Broncos will still make millions more than most teams and teams will still have to spend more than they can afford to compete. There's need to be competition in the South East Qld market.

I also don't buy the argument that the player depth doesn't exist. There's plenty of players that head to rugby, plenty that head to the ESL and others that retire early. If you look at rugby the French support 14 teams the same as Super rugby, with a fraction of the player depth, it doesn't do them any harm. As long as the teams coming in bring more money to the pie than they take out there's no need to place a cap on teams, only to expand in a sustainable manner.

 

[BDGS]

Maybe I should have used an emoticon so you knew I was making a joke... ;-)

oh right, i was thinking you may have been but there are some really dumb posters on this site.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Brisbane NRL expansion plan under fire from Central Queensland, Ipswich and Wayne Bennett

• Peter Badel
• From: The Courier-Mail
• January 29, 2011 12:01AM
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  NO GO ZONE: Master coach Wayne Bennett is not in favour of another NRL team in Brisbane. Picture: Ella Pellegrini Source: The Courier-Mail

THE NRL expansion battle has descended into a war of words after the new Brisbane consortium yesterday came under attack from master coach Wayne Bennett and rival bid teams Ipswich and Central Queensland. Just days after identifying Bennett as a possible coaching target, the Dragons mentor yesterday voiced his opposition to a second NRL team in Brisbane to rival the Broncos, the club over which he presided for 21 seasons.
Bennett's stance came after Ipswich mayor Paul Pisasale, a strident supporter of a western corridor NRL bid, blasted the timing of the Brisbane consortium's announcement as "offensive" as his region recovers from the devastating Queensland floods.
CQ bid chief executive Denis Keeffe also fanned the expansionary embers, warning a top-level Queensland sporting club would suffer badly if a third NRL team was added to southeast Queensland in 2013.
But the besieged consortium hit back yesterday amid growing concerns a second Brisbane NRL team would erode the success of the Broncos and Titans.
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"I disagree with that," Brisbane consortium member Craig Davison said. "A second team in Brisbane is viable and we have a very, very good chance of making this work. We need 24 games out of Suncorp each year, not 12.
"Rugby league is about a lot of passionate people and it is great to see the passion that Paul Pisasale has for his NRL expansion bid in Ipswich.
"I respect the Ipswich bid but we're working hard on our bid and we make no apologies."
Bennett is one of three coaches, with Craig Bellamy and Mal Meninga, on the Brisbane bid's hit list, but the 61-year-old yesterday distanced himself from the prospective franchise.
"No, it wouldn't be my choice," said Bennett, speaking at an NRL All Stars promotion yesterday.
When pressed on what location he would recommend the NRL pursue, Bennett added: "I've got lots of preferences, but no one is going to take a lot of notice of that, so we won't talk about it today."
CQ boss Keeffe fears the creation of a second Brisbane NRL team could prove disastrous for southeast Queensland, which already features seven major sporting outfits.
"I think someone is going to get hurt badly if a third NRL team comes into that region," Keeffe said.
"The sporting landscape in southeast Queensland is fairly crowded now.
"You have two NRL clubs, two AFL clubs, two A-league clubs, a Super 15 club and then you have a plethora of Queensland Cup clubs all competing for the hearts and minds of the corporate dollar."


http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...nd-wayne-bennett/story-e6frep5x-1225996356942

 

[Perth Red]

``No, it wouldn't be my choice,'' Bennett said.
When pressed on what location he would recommend the NRL pursue, Bennett kept his thoughts to himself.
``I've got lots of preferences (for where the next expansion team should be) but no one is going to take a lot of notice of that, so we won't talk about it today,'' Bennett said.

Don;t worry Wayne we know where you would prefer!

St GEORGE Illawarra coach Wayne Bennett has called on the NRL to base a team in Perth from 2012 after it strikes a new television deal.
"I hope when the league addresses the issue of expansion, which I think they will when the new TV contracts are to be done in 2012, they look favourably upon us having a team out of this part of the world," Bennett said.
"It works, I know it works, and we have to move in that direction."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/.../story-e6frf3vc-1111118848007?from=public_rss

 

[Mr Angry]

Have to say, I was indifferent about the Central Coast, thought as another NSW club, probably was not the go.

Then they want to steal North Sydney's mascot, like VFL did the Fitzroy Lions.

Far from keen, would be happy enough If CC got a team, but as a recycled club, no. CC should be thier own, not North Sydney.

But the posters here who would seem to sell thier children to get North Sydney's mascot at the Central Coast have really made me oppossed to it in a big way.

Now I know they will start on a club that have existed for 40 odd years, and continue to be there, they will crap on until the cows come home about how the Central Coast want to be North Sydney, plans, sponsors , yada yada.

My point being is I was indifferent, leaning towards no for CC, now I really do hope they do not succeed, due too posters here, who want to steal North Sydney's History, they are like VFL fans to me, South Melbourne Swans, Fitzroy Lions.

I would support CC, but not as the Bears.

Flame away about the club that continues to exist, has sponsors, owns it ground, never was some one elses club.

 

[Mr Angry]

Don;t worry Wayne we know where you would prefer!



http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/.../story-e6frf3vc-1111118848007?from=public_rss

Perth I do support 100%

Wayne is a Loyal man, he would never want to see the Broncos hurt.

Makes me laugh to think the North Sydney thieves think Wayne would be on thier Fitzroy bandwagon.

 

[adamkungl]

Fighting between each other will not help the QLD bids

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Have to say, I was indifferent about the Central Coast, thought as another NSW club, probably was not the go.

Then they want to steal North Sydney's mascot, like VFL did the Fitzroy Lions.

Far from keen, would be happy enough If CC got a team, but as a recycled club, no. CC should be thier own, not North Sydney.

But the posters here who would seem to sell thier children to get North Sydney's mascot at the Central Coast have really made me oppossed to it in a big way.

Now I know they will start on a club that have existed for 40 odd years, and continue to be there, they will crap on until the cows come home about how the Central Coast want to be North Sydney, plans, sponsors , yada yada.

My point being is I was indifferent, leaning towards no for CC, now I really do hope they do not succeed, due too posters here, who want to steal North Sydney's History, they are like VFL fans to me, South Melbourne Swans, Fitzroy Lions.

I would support CC, but not as the Bears.

Flame away about the club that continues to exist, has sponsors, owns it ground, never was some one elses club.

You realize the very community of the Central Coast support the Bears brand and have taken the BEARS brand as their own now? If they, locals support it and want it to happen. Then why can't you, a non-local, accept a Central Coast Bears? The Bears are part of the Central Coast community and the Central Coast community is part of the BEARS.

 

[Brutus]

The perfect time for a 2nd Brisbane team and a Perth team was back in 1995.

Superleague came along and stuffed all that up.

It's sad to think that 16 years later there is no Perth team and no 2nd Brisbane team and absolutely no direction or plan from the people running the game as to when or if these entities may return.

Pathetic really.

 

[Brutus]

You realize the very community of the Central Coast support the Bears brand and have taken the BEARS brand as their own now? If they, locals support it and want it to happen. Then why can't you, a non-local, accept a Central Coast Bears? The Bears are part of the Central Coast community and the Central Coast community is part of the BEARS.

So true.

The CC bid is sh*thouse without the Bears link/input.

I'd prefer a Broken Hill team before a Bearless CC team.

 

[adamkungl]

1995 had it mostly right...Melbourne was the only piece of the puzzle missing. Expand by 4. Bring in WA CC Brisbane CQ.

 

[Mr Angry]

You realize the very community of the Central Coast support the Bears brand and have taken the BEARS brand as their own now?

No, no I don't , I hear it here form Fiztroy transplant types.I reckon it is crap, and only you South Melbourne Transplant types believe it.

North Sydney, they even play for Souths.

Again you sound the VFL when they say Brisbane loves the Lions. Sydney loves South Melbourne.

If CC get a team I hope they get thier own, not a recycled North Sydney, who play for Souths.

 

[Jason Maher]

I'd love to see the Bears, Reds, and Brisbane II teams admitted, and the two insular f**kwit beachside clubs either merged, or one relocated and the other folded.

 

[winnyason]

The sooner that the comission is set up the better to know the plan for expansion in the future and the structure of the competition and the tv deal given 7,9 and 10 all want the rights plus fox and sky nz.
Here are the teams bidding for nrl licences in possible:
Central Coast, Perth, Ipswich, Central Queensland, Brisbane 2, Png and nz south island.
Now in the future where would more expansion come from Possible sunshine coast, adelaide and 2nd melbourne team.
They need to show there plans now people mat say bullsh*t but let's have a tentative timeline.
2013: Perth and the bears 2015: nz south island, ipswich, brisbane 2 2018: png, CQ 2020 adelaide, 2nd melbourne team

I think they would have to tier it much like NFL and now like super rugby

Northern league: Broncos, titans, png, CQ, Ispwich, brisbane 2, sushine coast, cowboys.
Central League: CC, Manly, west tigers, parra, penrith, souths, roosters, dogs, sharks, cronulla, saints.
southern league: Canberra, melbourne, 2nd melbourne, perth, adelaide, warriors, nz south island.

Now this may take a while but a plan please gallop.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

No, no I don't , I hear it here form Fiztroy transplant types.I reckon it is crap, and only you South Melbourne Transplant types believe it.

North Sydney, they even play for Souths.

Again you sound the VFL when they say Brisbane loves the Lions. Sydney loves South Melbourne.

If CC get a team I hope they get thier own, not a recycled North Sydney, who play for Souths.

Take my word for it. The Central Coast Bears are as much Central Coast as Bluetongue Stadium and the Brisbane waterfront. Over 3000 members of the 5300 are Central Coast locals and that number will grow. 40 local businesses as sponsors, CCDRL approval, headquarters @ Erina soon to be Mt. Penang. Both political sides are behind the CCBEARS. Merchandise sold in Best & Less all across the CC. 85% of the membership drives and 90% of the community engagement is based on the CC. The locals even voted for the NSWRL side to be named Central Coast Cubs but it somehow got vetoed and became Centurions. Most membership drive volunteers live on the CC.

 

[otori]

The sooner that the comission is set up the better to know the plan for expansion in the future and the structure of the competition and the tv deal given 7,9 and 10 all want the rights plus fox and sky nz.
Here are the teams bidding for nrl licences in possible:
Central Coast, Perth, Ipswich, Central Queensland, Brisbane 2, Png and nz south island.
Now in the future where would more expansion come from Possible sunshine coast, adelaide and 2nd melbourne team.
They need to show there plans now people mat say bullsh*t but let's have a tentative timeline.
2013: Perth and the bears 2015: nz south island, ipswich, brisbane 2 2018: png, CQ 2020 adelaide, 2nd melbourne team

I think they would have to tier it much like NFL and now like super rugby

Northern league: Broncos, titans, png, CQ, Ispwich, brisbane 2, sushine coast, cowboys.
Central League: CC, Manly, west tigers, parra, penrith, souths, roosters, dogs, sharks, cronulla, saints.
southern league: Canberra, melbourne, 2nd melbourne, perth, adelaide, warriors, nz south island.

Now this may take a while but a plan please gallop.

WTF happened to Newcastle in your fantasy?

 

[winnyason]

fantasy LOL your mum LOL