Central Coast Bears release new logo, aiming for 2012 inclusion

[macavity]

:lol: Do I really represent a cross-section of the community?

side-on.....

 

[Knightmare]

Mac, I think it's a bit silly to think that today's crowd is a reason to not put a team on the Coast. For starters, the people who support the Knights because "they're the closest team" would probably switch allegiences. Furthermore, some other people who aren't as hardcore for the NRL team they follow would switch too, not to mention new fans to the game and Bears fans who have avoided the game like the plague in protest.

Before 1988 there were plenty of people in the Hunter Valley who followed St George, Canterbury, Parramatta, Balmain etc. and some of them still do (in whatever form their team takes) but at the same time the Knights have a large hardcore fan base. Keep in mind not just Coasties, but people from the North Shore who followed the Bears would make the trek to Gosford as well.

 

[Timmah]

As I said, do you really think I'm a cross-section of the community?

The Mariners were done correctly and for the most part have been successful. While their crowds are still considered weak they've managed 3/4 finals appearances, 2 grand finals in four years, and have a loyal following. Given football was secondary to

As for "financial basketcases" I don't think this will be given the green light without an appropriate funding agreement and such... and as for your financial problems, I sincerely hope the private backing rumours come true, that may go a long way to solving the liquidity problems up Newie way.

Imagine the rivalry not only in football but in League that Newcastle v CC clashes could generate?

 

[Timmah]

side-on.....

Saw that coming from a mile away

 

[Dutchy]

Saw that coming from a mile away

Dont you mean he saw you coming from a mile away :sarcasm:

 

[Timmah]

That too

:lol:

 

[mightybears]

Quick question. Other than Orford, O'Meley etc. which Coastie juniors are playing first grade (anywhere)?

Not an answer to your question as such, but Girvie's list of North Sydney players that have gone on to NRL first grade [2000 to 2008] contains many CC juniors.

http://www.mightybears.com/viewtopic.php?t=2786

I've put together a list of players who have played for the Bears, and been developed by the Bears, and then gone on to make their debut in the National Rugby League or English Super League.

Notes:
* I don't have the full list of Bears players this decade, particularly junior reps, so there are possibly some other Bears juniors who have gone onto play in the NRL.
* Some of these players had been dual-contracted to the Bears with an NRL club, such as South Sydney or Melbourne.

I've listed them by the year they debuted in the National Rugby League or English Super League.

2000
Alex Chan (Bears 1995, 1996, 2000, 2005)
NRL: Northern Eagles 2000, Parramatta 2001-2003, Melbourne 2004-2005.
ESL: Les Catalans 2006-2008.
Rep honours: NSW Residents, New Zealand.
2008 club: Les Catalans, English Super League.

Matt Orford (Bears 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000)
NRL: Northern Eagles 2000, Melbourne 2001-2005, Manly 2006-2008.
Rep Honours: NSW City.
2008 club: Manly Sea Eagles.

Michael Sullivan (Bears 1999, 2000, 2001)
NRL: Northern Eagles 2000, Cronulla 2003-2005, Canterbury 2008.
ESL: Warrington 2006-2007.
2008 club: Canterbury Bulldogs.


2001
Nick Bradley (Bears 1998, 1999)
NRL: Wests Tigers 2001-2003, Manly 2004, 2007-2008.
ESL: London Harlequins 2005-2006.
2008 club: Manly Sea Eagles.

Steve Carew (Bears 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999)
NRL: Northern Eagles: 2001.

Scott McLean (Bears 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004)
NRL: Northern Eagles: 2001, South Sydney 2002.

Joel Penny (Bears 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001)
NRL: Northern Eagles 2001-2002, South Sydney 2003.


2002
Luke Dorn (Bears 1999, 2000, 2001)
NRL: Northern Eagles 2002, Manly 2003, Sydney Roosters 2004.
ESL: London Harlequins 2005-2006, Salford 2007, Castleford 2008.
Rep Honours: NSW Under-17s.
2008 club: Castleford Tigers, English Super League.


2003
Chris Heighington (Bears 2001, 2002)
NRL: Wests Tigers: 2003-2008.
2008 club: Wests Tigers.

Brett Kearney (Bears 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002)
NRL: South Sydney 2003-2005, Cronulla 2006-2008.
2008 club: Cronulla Sharks.

Matt King (Bears 2000, 2001, 2002)
NRL: Melbourne 2003-2007.
ESL: Warrington 2008.
Rep Honours: NSW Country, NSW Origin, Australia.
2008 club: Warrington Wolves, English Super League.

Andrew Price (Bears 2001)
NRL: Newcastle 2003-2005, St George Illawarra 2006.

Ryan Tandy (Bears 1999, 2000, 2001)
NRL: St George Illawarra 2003, South Sydney 2003.
ESL: Hull KR 2007.
2008 club: Wests Tigers.


2004
Kevin Henderson (Bears 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003)
NRL: Newcastle 2004,
ESL: Leigh 2005, Wakefield 2005-2008.
2008 club: Wakefield Wildcats, English Super League.


2005
Kurt Hancock (Bears 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002)
NRL: Newcastle 2005.

James King (Bears 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002)
ESL: Leigh 2005.


2006
Matthew Bartlett (Bears 2006)
NRL: Melbourne 2006-2007, North Queensland 2007.
2008 club: North Queensland Cowboys.

Billy Ngawini (Bears 2003, 2005)
NRL: Canterbury 2006.
Rep Honours: New Zealand ‘A’.
2008 club: Gold Coast Titans.

Lee Te Maari (Bears 2004)
NRL: St George Illawarra 2006, Canterbury 2007-2008.
2008 club: Canterbury Bulldogs.


2007
Ben Ellis (Bears 2005, 2006)
NRL: St George Illawarra 2007-2008.
2008 club: St George Illawarra Dragons.

Ben Fisher (Bears 2003, 2004)
ESL: Hull KR 2007-2008.
2008 club: Hull KR, English Super League.

Issac Luke (Bears 2007)
NRL: South Sydney 2007-2008.
2008 club: South Sydney Rabbitohs.

Mitchell Pearce (Bears 2004, 2005)
NRL: Sydney Roosters 2007-2008.
Rep Honours: NSW Under-17s, Australian Schoolboys.
2008 club: Sydney Roosters.

Eddy Pettybourne (Bears 2007)
NRL: South Sydney 2007-2008.
Rep Honours: NSW Under-19s, NSW Residents, Junior Kiwis.
2008 club: South Sydney Rabbitohs.

Ryan Shortland (Bears 2006)
NRL: Melbourne 2007, New Zealand 2008.
2008 club: New Zealand Warriors.

Eddie Su’a (Bears 2006)
NRL: Cronulla 2007.
2008 club: Cronulla Sharks.


2008
Beau Falloon (Bears 2008)
NRL: South Sydney 2008
2008 club: South Sydney Rabbitohs.

Liam Foran (Bears 2004, 2005, 2006)
NRL: Melbourne 2008
2008 club: Melbourne Storm.

Ben Lowe (Bears 2007, 2008)
NRL: South Sydney 2008
2008 club: South Sydney Rabbitohs.

Grant Millington (Bears 2002)
NRL: Cronulla 2008
2008 club: Cronulla Sharks.

Jamie Simpson (Bears 2008)
NRL: South Sydney 2008
2008 club: South Sydney Rabbitohs.

John Tamanika (Bear 2008)
NRL: South Sydney 2008
2008 club: South Sydney Rabbitohs.

 

[Non Terminator]

Ah cheers, I might look into each one, would tell ya if they were haha. Cheers mate.

 

[dragonfire]

the question is do you allow a new club into the comp or force a team to move out there?

 

[Timmah]

I think alot will depend on Cronulla folding or not - as they are one of the more likely to do so. I think Newcastle will stick around, a private backer will come on board IMO.

 

[Nightward]

Florimo made some good points on the Sunday Footy Show today.

I hadn't realised that the total player drain to England and other codes had been so great. 80+ players, I think they said- assuming money is the deciding factor in those players heading overseas, an expanded competition with, please God, a better media rights deal, you would be able to get some back and slow down the player drain, so tired horse of "talent dilution' could be put to rest.

To survive long-term, the NRL needs to expand. The difficult part is choosing when and where. Hopefully those in the drivers seat can make a wise choice on this one.

There are worse things they can do in three years than to (re-)admit Perth and the Bears. So long as the global economy is no longer in free-fall, we might get both in.

The question is really whether Gallop and the rest of the board are more concerned with the future than their immediate bottom-line... and toadying up to their various factions and own agendas.

 

[Rockin Ronny]

Florimo made some good points on the Sunday Footy Show today.

I hadn't realised that the total player drain to England and other codes had been so great. 80+ players, I think they said- assuming money is the deciding factor in those players heading overseas, an expanded competition with, please God, a better media rights deal, you would be able to get some back and slow down the player drain, so tired horse of "talent dilution' could be put to rest.

To survive long-term, the NRL needs to expand. The difficult part is choosing when and where. Hopefully those in the drivers seat can make a wise choice on this one.

There are worse things they can do in three years than to (re-)admit Perth and the Bears. So long as the global economy is no longer in free-fall, we might get both in.

The question is really whether Gallop and the rest of the board are more concerned with the future than their immediate bottom-line... and toadying up to their various factions and own agendas.

Sadly, the biggest hurdle for the CC Bears is Gallop and the other News lackeys that have been deathriding the CC Bears for 10 years.

Any other sport would be laughing at rugby league because the CC Bears introduction is so easy, so obvious. AND by reneging on the original promise, the NRL's lack of integrity becomes worse. It just reaffirms that the only way you get ahead in rugby league is if you have few mates at head office, not because what you have is best for the game.

 

[dimitri]

Florimo made some good points on the Sunday Footy Show today.

I hadn't realised that the total player drain to England and other codes had been so great. 80+ players, I think they said- assuming money is the deciding factor in those players heading overseas, an expanded competition with, please God, a better media rights deal, you would be able to get some back and slow down the player drain, so tired horse of "talent dilution' could be put to rest.

To survive long-term, the NRL needs to expand. The difficult part is choosing when and where. Hopefully those in the drivers seat can make a wise choice on this one.

There are worse things they can do in three years than to (re-)admit Perth and the Bears. So long as the global economy is no longer in free-fall, we might get both in.

The question is really whether Gallop and the rest of the board are more concerned with the future than their immediate bottom-line... and toadying up to their various factions and own agendas.

I think it definitely makes sense -Reds and Bears!