Central Coast Bears - Stand Aside

[skeepe]

So the people of the Central Coast wouldn't support the Northern Eagles because they didn't commit fully to the region, instead also committing to a region of Sydney, but they will support the Central Coast Bears, who won't commit fully to the region, instead also committing to a region of Sydney?

:crazy:

 

[_MayMoo 2]

So the people of the Central Coast wouldn't support the Northern Eagles because they didn't commit fully to the region, instead also committing to a region of Sydney, but they will support the Central Coast Bears, who won't commit fully to the region, instead also committing to a region of Sydney?

:crazy:

1) Northern Eagles
Manly Warringah playing half of their games at Gosford as a cash grab, always intending to return to Brookvale. Not called the Central Coast.

2) Central Coast Bears
Name says it all. Fully commited to region, built stadium, etc etc.
Central Coast team. Will play one game at NSO each year. WTF is wrong with that. ?

I never get why people claim to support a CC team, yet say they don't want it to have the strength of the link to the unserviced Bears fans on the North Shore.

The Bears are fully committed to the region of the Central Coast. They should be applauded for strengthening their bid by entrenching it with the North Shore of Sydney, and the extra money and fans that brings to the game.

 

[BunniesMan]

Not everything has to be 100% black and white. The Bears will be fully committed to the Central Coast, but they can do that without ignoring Northern Sydney.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Sorry what I meant was that Tigers or other NRL players going into say a Manly Warringah school would not be seen as a threat to MW.

Fair enough.

I wouldn't be concerned to be honest, the feeling towards Manly down North Sydney way is not all that pleasant. Actually, the feelings toward Manly everywhere other than Manly aren't great...

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

So the people of the Central Coast wouldn't support the Northern Eagles because they didn't commit fully to the region, instead also committing to a region of Sydney, but they will support the Central Coast Bears, who won't commit fully to the region, instead also committing to a region of Sydney?

:crazy:

I'm with you a bit on this one. In the past I would have rather the Bears be on the CC only but there are a lot of fans left in the lurch in North Sydney who won't come back via Manly. Catch 22.

I also think that the Northern Eagles stunk from day one. The Bears won't be seen in the same light by most fans and ex-fans.

 

[Timmah]

So CC fans are holding the NRL ransom now, are they? Give us a team or we won't support you anymore. FFS grow up. You're in an area that already supports RL in a state that has over 60% of the current teams.

You guys keep sating they have everything, but what can the give the competition, other than another NSW team averaging 16,000?

Timmah, that is probably the most geniused thing I have ever heard. Let's add an 11th NSW team so we can weaken another one to the negate the expansion in the first place. You're a f**king moron for a Bulldogs fan.

Ransom?

Do you just make this sh*t up as you go?

There is no question that the Central Coast public have been toyed around with when it comes to having an NRL side up here. It was going to happen ten years ago when we had 20 teams, why can't it happen now when we have 16? As for the weakening argument... if you don't understand it then I hope you don't run a business. Why keep a weak entity running when you have a profitable one in the wings?

dgsfan wins this thread - top posts.

Of course he does, he subscribes to your theory. And again, you're sh*tscared the Knights are the team the Bears will cannibalise.

Timbob, are you going to stop supporting the Dogs if the Bears don't get in? Will you stop supporting the Dogs if they do?

I will not stop supporting either team. I've been very clear on that. The 'Dogs take priority over the Bears but the Bears have my support for all bar two games a season.

Because both arguments are being put forward by the Bears bid.

"Give the Central Coast their own team, or all the coasties will stop supporting the NRL teams they support now"

However, they also say.... "Give the Central Coast their own team, and all the coasties will stop supporting the NRL teams they support now"

:crazy:

Given coasties haven't turned their backs on their existing teams en masse, it would seem both statements are false.[/QUOTE]

Dumb statement. Coast residents casually support teams like Newcastle and Manly because there's noone else to support in the immediate local area. That should be obvious.

I'm with you a bit on this one. In the past I would have rather the Bears be on the CC only but there are a lot of fans left in the lurch in North Sydney who won't come back via Manly. Catch 22.

I also think that the Northern Eagles stunk from day one. The Bears won't be seen in the same light by most fans and ex-fans.

Different situations entirely - you're right - Bears won't be seen in the same light.

 

[Knightmare]

The Bears bid and the Ipswich/ Central Qld can get stuffed IMO. We already have 10 teams in NSW, and Qld have 3. We should put a team in Hobart and Darwin. They have never had NRL representation of any sort, plus it will look really cool when you roll out a map of Australia and say "Lookee here- we have teams in Perth, Hobart AND Darwin! Suck on that AFL!"

 

[BunniesMan]

The Bears bid and the Ipswich/ Central Qld can get stuffed IMO. We already have 10 teams in NSW, and Qld have 3. We should put a team in Hobart and Darwin. They have never had NRL representation of any sort, plus it will look really cool when you roll out a map of Australia and say "Lookee here- we have teams in Perth, Hobart AND Darwin! Suck on that AFL!"

:iwstupid:
Worst idea of the year award goes to this post. Covering the map with random teams that have no community support is the absolute worst idea. We do not have the resources to fund teams that will be losing money for years the way the AFL does. The Gold Coast Suns marketing budget (largely propped up by the AFL itself) is larger than the entire annual turnover of the Titans.

The NRL licenses for 2013 should be given to the best bids with the strongest chance at a long term future. At this point it is the Bears and Perth.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

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[Timmah]

:iwstupid:
Worst idea of the year award goes to this post. Covering the map with random teams that have no community support is the absolute worst idea. We do not have the resources to fund teams that will be losing money for years the way the AFL does. The Gold Coast Suns marketing budget (largely propped up by the AFL itself) is larger than the entire annual turnover of the Titans.

The NRL licenses for 2013 should be given to the best bids with the strongest chance at a long term future. At this point it is the Bears and Perth.

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Put "sarcasm" in the search box for me. Read.

 

[BunniesMan]

www.dictionary.com

Put "sarcasm" in the search box for me. Read.

It's quite hard to convey sarcasm over the net unless it's completely obvious. The only thing in that post that would make a person think it is sarcasm is stupidity, and if stupidity was the way we decided if something was sarcastic then half the posts on this forum would be sarcastic.

 

[Talons]

It is a little simplistic to use the "think of the children" argument here.

Your analogy invloves two NRL clubs.

The Bears situation is that they are bidding to get back into the NRL,and it is openly known that Manly are against this.

The Bears service these areas with their own players, also Fairleigh, Buettner, Daley, Taylor etc and through there relationship with Souths NRL players etc.

Why invite the enemy into the bedroom. When Manly will try and use this as an example of why we shouldnt get back in.

Sorry don't trust 'em, no offence.

No offence taken.
But if you care to read the following link I think you may find that Manly has not just jumped on the north shore band wagon.

SCHOOLS in Berowra and Asquith have no problems accepting Sea Eagles players as part of next year’s NRL One Community Carnival.
The NRL has allocated Manly to visit schools in the Berowra/Asquith region as part of the carnival in the first week of February next year.
North Sydney Bears officials are furious with the NRL, believing the territory is theirs and only their NRL feeder club South Sydney should send players into the district.
But three schools canvassed in the region by The Manly Daily said they had no problem accepting any players, particularly of the maroon and white variety.
“The Manly club have been very supportive of the school here,” Asquith’s St Patrick’s Primary School principal, Robert Peers said.
“Of all the clubs we contacted, Manly was the only one that showed any interest. We are happy to have them on board.”
Another school previously visited by the Sea Eagles also backed a return appearance by the club.
“Manly has given us very good service over the last two or three years,” Berowra’s St Bernard’s Catholic Primary School teacher Anne Neems said.
“They have been very well received by our older students. But it’s really a problem within the NRL.”
At Asquith Boys High, PE teacher Mark Millett also supported the Sea Eagles.
“If Manly are prepared to bring people out, I’ve got no problems with that,” he said.
When told of the schools’ stance, North Sydney juniors coach Kevin Nicholls did not waver in his belief that the Sea Eagles are “encroaching on our area”.
“I understand that from the schools, that’s why we are trying to get South Sydney players to go in,” he said.
“The boundaries are set by the NSWRL and Manly’s finishes at the Spit Bridge.”


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[bobmar28]

That's is from a Manly fan too. On the dailytelecraps article above, well in the decade the bears weren't around, manly didn't do much to get into these areas. Now that the ccbears bid is growing and becoming a potential threat. Manly realize that they lost an opportunity. Real talk. No manly hate.

We should work together for a change or risk both collapsing.

The Northern Eagles was the best solution for this whole problem - covering everything from the harbour bridge to The Entrance. What went wrong with that anyway?

 

[Red&BlackBear]

The Northern Eagles was the best solution for this whole problem - covering everything from the harbour bridge to The Entrance. What went wrong with that anyway?

Manly decided to play out the majority of games @ brookvale and alienate both cc and ns fans. That's what happened. NE were just MWSE hiding in a jersey that had a faint red ad black line but alot of white and maroon.

 

[adamkungl]

How could anyone think that the Northern Eagles is a good idea

 

[Goddo]

Introducing another NSW side, bringing back the Bears without first removing a current NSW licence is a backwards step.

If we do that we may as well bring back Newtown and break up Wests Tigers and St George Illawarra.

The whole point of expansion in the 80s, forming the ARL, expansion in the 90s, the super league war and the settlement from that war was answering one question:

How do we rationalise the number of Sydney clubs to enable national expansion and the huge money that could be generated for the game by going national?

I am all for the Bears and the Central Coast, but not at the expense of Wellington, Perth, Ipswich/SE Queensland.

The game has gone through so much pain to get to this point, and bringing in another NSW club, no matter how much emotional support there is for it, is a bad idea. The Rabbitohs comming back was a bad idea for the same reason. They have done brilliantly since, but notice Cronulla has replaced them on the scrap heap.

Also, due to changes to the Anti Siphoning Laws which will see the NRL broadcast nationally, there is far more fiancial gain for the game to be made in new markets than previously. Its game changing.

NSW can't support another side. It will hurt RL. People are thinking with their hearts and not their heads on this issue.


Ipswich Jets and Perth Reds for 2013.

 

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[Goddo]

More one eyed support from Bears fans. Try taking a step back and looking at the game as a whole and the negative impact the Central Coast Bears will have on the comp as a whole.

No Bears until Cronulla move to Adelaide, Wellington, Queensland or fold

 

[BunniesMan]

Introducing another NSW side, bringing back the Bears without first removing a current NSW licence is a backwards step.

If we do that we may as well bring back Newtown and break up Wests Tigers and St George Illawarra.

The whole point of expansion in the 80s, forming the ARL, expansion in the 90s, the super league war and the settlement from that war was answering one question:

How do we rationalise the number of Sydney clubs to enable national expansion and the huge money that could be generated for the game by going national?

I am all for the Bears and the Central Coast, but not at the expense of Wellington, Perth, Ipswich/SE Queensland.

The game has gone through so much pain to get to this point, and bringing in another NSW club, no matter how much emotional support there is for it, is a bad idea. The Rabbitohs comming back was a bad idea for the same reason. They have done brilliantly since, but notice Cronulla has replaced them on the scrap heap.

Also, due to changes to the Anti Siphoning Laws which will see the NRL broadcast nationally, there is far more fiancial gain for the game to be made in new markets than previously. Its game changing.

NSW can't support another side. It will hurt RL. People are thinking with their hearts and not their heads on this issue.


Ipswich Jets and Perth Reds for 2013.

How about you learn some history. Cronulla's struggles have nothing to do with us. They've been incompetently run for most of their history. They were on the scrap heap before we were even kicked out. You talk about pain the game has gone through, well the only reason Cronulla ever made it through rationalisation in 1999 was because they took superleague blood money, the cause of all that pain. We could have taken superleague money and never been kicked out but we stayed loyal.

Once they burnt through that blood money they've been on the scrapheap ever since, and they'd be in the same position if Souths never came back.

And your logic regarding the Bears is equally stupid. Why should they wait for a team to fold or relocate before they're brought in? How about they get brought in anyway and if another team can't handle it (due to their own incompetence) they'll die (or relocate) quicker.

We shouldn't keep out a team that is well organised and well managed just to support another team on life support. Bring the Bears in and let the fittest survive or adapt (ie, relocation).

 

[Talons]

How about you learn some history. Cronulla's struggles have nothing to do with us. They've been incompetently run for most of their history. They were on the scrap heap before we were even kicked out. You talk about pain the game has gone through, well the only reason Cronulla ever made it through rationalisation in 1999 was because they took superleague blood money, the cause of all that pain. We could have taken superleague money and never been kicked out but we stayed loyal.

Once they burnt through that blood money they've been on the scrapheap ever since, and they'd be in the same position if Souths never came back.

And your logic regarding the Bears is equally stupid. Why should they wait for a team to fold or relocate before they're brought in? How about they get brought in anyway and if another team can't handle it (due to their own incompetence) they'll die (or relocate) quicker.

We shouldn't keep out a team that is well organised and well managed just to support another team on life support. Bring the Bears in and let the fittest survive or adapt (ie, relocation).

I can tell you're very passionate about your team, Bunniesman.
But how would you feel if Russell Crowe and Robert Holmes a Court had not come forth to save Souths and invested their money in the Sharkies. Would you still feel the same way ?