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I guess in hindsight the Bears targetting Q'land instead of Gosford for readmission would have been the best outcome maybe?
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I guess in hindsight the Bears targetting Q'land instead of Gosford for readmission would have been the best outcome maybe?
So CC fans are holding the NRL ransom now, are they? Give us a team or we won't support you anymore. FFS grow up. You're in an area that already supports RL in a state that has over 60% of the current teams.
Can't wait for it not to happen, now. You guys can f**k off and follow AFL if you want. Fact is NSW has 10 teams out of 16 and you want to make it 11? What's the point? You will; just be taking support away from existing teams.
Brisbane's crowds are the highest they've been in years. I think the current CEOs have a little more information than we do, and if they feel that a CC team would negatively effect other NSW teams then I don't think they should be admitted.
Sure, CC has the best bid atm, but the NRL hasn't even asked for bids yet. A rumour was going around that submissions would be called for mid next year. Bears fans have counted their eggs before they have hatched, I feel, and those eggs will soon be over all of their faces soon enough.
Well then it's up to those areas to get their butts into action isn't it? Titans set the benchmark and the CCBears have met it. If these other areas haven't shown half the interest then why should they get a team?it's up to their bid team to engage in the community but they haven't. It's up to them to build a good business model but they haven't.
You can either take in someone for the job who is ready or someone who is half ready. Half ready is associated with loss of profits before you gain any. Ready is streaming revenue from the outset. If you feel so passionate about Ipswich or central qld bobmar then get off your ass and start membership drives and community initiatives. Like us ccbears fans have.
This is one of the problems of the Bears bid. Is their interest in the Central Coast a genuine one or is their commitment to the the CC just one of convenience? Seems to me at heart they are still the North Sydney Bears and their commitment to the CC is purely to make their bid look sweeter and an expansion opportunity rather than NSB reentry. If they're fair dinkum about the CC just go there holus bolus - petty bullsh*t with Manly will do the bid no favours.Things are heating up!
THE Sea Eagles and Bears - fierce northside rivals for more than 50 years - have resumed hostilities.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...orthern-turf-war/story-e6frexni-1225964855717
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/12/03/wedge-politics-at-play-on-the-central-coast/
Central Coast Bears played by politics
The divisive approach by opponents of the Central Coast Bears attempting to drive a wedge in the community has been revealed with a number of NRL clubs opposing the admission of any team on the Central Coast into the NRL in the future.
For a while now, debate has raged over which was the better model, a Central Coast Bears or a Central Coast stand alone model.
Opponents of the Bears bid say that a Central Coast-only model was superior due to the fact it would have less impact on Manly, as Manly would have access to the North Shore and Northern regions of Sydney.
As a Manly fan, I'm ashamed to say there are fans and representatives of both my club and Newcastle pushing this line.
Peter Peters last weekend even said he was happy to have a Central Coast only side in the competition. Nine days later, the truth has come out at the NRL conference at Byron Bay.
Manly does not want a team of ANY description on the Central Coast, hoping to divide the Bears region with Newcastle. A Central Coast only team,position was just a ploy to fracture Bears support on the Coast.
In effect, two weak teams are planning to feast on the body of what would be a much stronger, healthier animal. The problem is, they have been doing so for 11 years and both Manly and Newcastle are still struggling, badly servicing the former Bear and Central Coast territories.
So if the Central Coast has no team, long term there will still be two weak teams between the Sydney Harbour Bridge and the QLD border.
An Independent Commission surely must see the long term folly of this position, as AFL will surely advance and eventually capture the bulk of uncommitted sporting fans north of the harbour.
Anger on the Coast against Sydney-centric Clubs will be palpable at present. With only the Mariners as a local team to support, more Coasties will drift to soccer, particularly as real momentum and belief has been growing that finally, their time was approaching.
Ironically, as when Melbourne supporters united together this year in the face of perceived bias and actually grew their membership base, this treachery by the existing NRL clubs may in fact galvanise even more support for the Bears.
As everyone now can see unless this Bears bid is accepted, there will never be a Central Coast team. Ever.
If rejected, watch crowds start to inexorably decline at Bluetongue from 2012 onwards as interest from this heartland area declines. If there'sno prospect of ever getting a local NRL team, why not encourage the kids to play soccer instead for the Mariners?
I would love to see this bid succeed, if only because of the constant hurdles that have been put in its way since the Bears voted to move in 1997 to the Central Coast with the NRLs blessing and guarantees of never-failing support.
They've been let down by the games administrators, News Ltd, their own Board, the weather, the State Government and Manly, although for Manly it was a case of us or them.
This last point irks me. On my own clubs website it says how important it was to the establishment of Manly in 1947 that Norths willingly agreed to the breakup of its territory to create Manly for the good of the game.
I always enjoyed the fierce rivalry between the clubs and want to experience them anew. I want my club to show honour and return the debt it owes by supporting the Bears bid.
I support Manly on the field always, but I love the game more.
Administrators of my club and those opposing the Bears are just looking after themselves, not the game.
This is one of the problems of the Bears bid. Is their interest in the Central Coast a genuine one or is their commitment to the the CC just one of convenience? Seems to me at heart they are still the North Sydney Bears and their commitment to the CC is purely to make their bid look sweeter and an expansion opportunity rather than NSB reentry. If they're fair dinkum about the CC just go there holus bolus - petty bullsh*t with Manly will do the bid no favours.
Mate I acknowledge the work that the bid team has put in and you personally for keeping this forum updated on progress. But petty arguing with Manly regardless of who started it will not help the bears cause. Yes, I know there is a long and intense rivalry and a lot of bitterness via the Northern Eagles debarcle. But if you're seriously a new club have a new start in how you deal with Manly. Greg Florimo's comments detract from your strong work on the CC.we have said all along and the nrl have acknowledged all along that the ccbears bid also covers the north shore.
Also before people beat up the bears vs manly story. Remember manly had an entire decade to go to these areas. How convinient is it that they only go now when the ccbears bid has momentum and members. They had all of last year and the years before that. The ccbears have been at these schools with the ccmariners for over a year now. I think manly are looking after themselves then crying out like the kid who got the dirty done on him even though he started it or in this case didn't initiate these school
programs.
Don't believe me? Search this thread and you will find links to articles from last year where the ccbears are in the ns and cc schools.
On a side note the last time manly held a membership drive on the ns they go no members. Last timethe ccbears held a membership drive on the ns we got 200 peole.
Mate I acknowledge the work that the bid team has put in and you personally for keeping this forum updated on progress. But petty arguing with Manly regardless of who started it will not help the bears cause. Yes, I know there is a long and intense rivalry and a lot of bitterness via the Northern Eagles debarcle. But if you're seriously a new club have a new start in how you deal with Manly. Greg Florimo's comments detract from your strong work on the CC.
I agree it has been a bad week, but only 1 in a lot of good ones. Good luck with the bid and hard work.Well souths shouldve stopped their rivalry with easts upon returning to the comp. This is healthy for the game but the journos have beat the story up abit. I'm not arguing with anyone personally and I'm sure flo just sees it like most do. Manly had a decade to initiate activitie on the NS and the fact remains besides the odd one community event, they stayed home at manly. The timing of it all is what bothers flo and many ccbears fans.
Personally? It's been a baddish week media wise and you have to expect that. Regardless if you're a bid or a team. We will just keep working hard and try not to be suckered into bs like this. Purposely started to
make us look bad. It's ok though, the work will speak volumes for itself.
Go the Bears.
yeah and Ipswich is one hour from Brisbane, your point being?
Its a market that can sustain a team, its the best bid and its going to happen
As stated before "I have no malice towards the Bears" and readily admit I am a Manly supporter (cue Ronnie) but I would be wrapped for the kids at any Manly Warringah school to get a visit from Benji Marshall, Nathan Hindmarsh, Darren Lockyer, the list is endless.
I hope for the sake of all clubs we can put we can find a little civility when it comes to kids kicking a footie around.
It is a little simplistic to use the "think of the children" argument here.
Your analogy invloves two NRL clubs.
No, it involves 2 Rugby League Clubs.
You may have to wait 2 years to be right.