Chris Benoit and Family Found Dead

[Big_Bad_Shark_Fan]

They are saying that there is no other suspects outside the house and they found the object used. No I dont know the full procedures in a Murder case, but I do know for them to come out and say Benoit is a strong suspect, or whatever theyve said, theyd have to of had a fair bit of evidence, they wouldnt just say it. And the fact Benoits been identified as being the last killed doesnt do him any justice either.

The fact this ties in with Benoit rushing home and Benoit sending messages, as well as all the drugs found with him does not good for him.

I wont full crucify him, but I dont see this heading in any other directions.

WWE has to embrace this though. You cant just ignore someone dying sort of thing. While yes if whats happened is true, he doesnt deserve respect, they have to put a short clip at the end of the show remembering his career, and even if the voiceover mentions personal demons or his battles outside the ring, it Has to be done.

 

[brooksy19]

Just got home from being on holidays, turned on fox news and saw the reports. So sad, can't believe he would of done it.

 

[Once Dead]

its funny how its almost like we really know these wrestlers

To be honest, wrestling is one of those rare industries where the fans develop such a deep connection with the stars themselves. Wrestlers don't hang around for a mere 10 years, they're there for the long haul and really put everything on the line to entertain the fans.....that's what draws us close as fans because we can admire and appreciate what they do to their bodies for the sake of our entertainment.......plus, if you're a hardcore fan, you see these guys on tv in a week than you see certain family members in a month.

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

If it were a close friend of mine, I like to think I wouldn't allow my entire memory of them to be defined by one act, however heinous.

I agree 100%, but that's a bigger debate about morality altogether.

Generally when someone commits a crime of a certain type or severity, people will just judge them entirely on that act/actions, and assume that everything else about them was fake and hid "the real them".

I don't agree with it but it's fundamental in public morality. It's fundamental to the outrage generally felt when someone commits a serious violent crime.

 

[ParraDude_Jay]

Unbelievable, never has a death sent chills down my spine like this when I read it.

It's not our place to judge a man we didn't know, all I knew was the Benoit who was an absolute legend in the ring and fought through alot of problems to get there. R.I.P. to that man and also his family.

 

[Special K]

found this on a nba forum..

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Chris_Benoit&diff=prev&oldid=140679736

Here's something weird. Apparantly information was posted on wiki that Chris missed the pay per view on Sunday due to the rumored death of his wife. This information was posted 14 hours before any news of the deaths came out. Someone traced the IP of the wiki contributor to Stamford, Conn (where the WWE headquarters is).

Just something else weird and creepy to add to it.

dun dun dun

 

[Game_Breaker]

found this on a nba forum..



dun dun dun

This is what it says on the discussion of Benoits wiki profile:

The 4:01 June 25th edit

If you look through the history of Beniot's page, you can see an edit over 18 hours before his death was announced saying he missed Sunday night's event because of the rumored death of his wife. I have not read any legit sources that suggest anyone knew about his wife's death prior to his, but that edit looks somewhat cryptic now. How could an editor have known that his wife was dead 18 hours before the story broke that his family was dead? Wesleymullins 04:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah that is kind of really odd... Shows as the 10:01 edit for me, but ehh, still was before the 2:30 discovery of the bodies. Very weird. Also to view it click here -- Shatterzer0 04:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC) That's 4:01 GMT. I think that would be 12:01 a.m. Eastern Daylight Savings Time. Or 14 and a half hours before the bodies were reported discovered. Rklawton 05:09, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Just to add to this craziness, I looked up the IP and it comes from Stamford, Connecticut; which happens to be where WWE headquarters is located. I thought this was too weird not to mention.

 

[IanG]

I really don't know what to say. Everything that you could say on this thread has been said. I admit I'm really taken aback by this.

 

[Jono Russell]

This is what it says on the discussion of Benoits wiki profile:

The 4:01 June 25th edit

If you look through the history of Beniot's page, you can see an edit over 18 hours before his death was announced saying he missed Sunday night's event because of the rumored death of his wife. I have not read any legit sources that suggest anyone knew about his wife's death prior to his, but that edit looks somewhat cryptic now. How could an editor have known that his wife was dead 18 hours before the story broke that his family was dead? Wesleymullins 04:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah that is kind of really odd... Shows as the 10:01 edit for me, but ehh, still was before the 2:30 discovery of the bodies. Very weird. Also to view it click here -- Shatterzer0 04:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC) That's 4:01 GMT. I think that would be 12:01 a.m. Eastern Daylight Savings Time. Or 14 and a half hours before the bodies were reported discovered. Rklawton 05:09, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Just to add to this craziness, I looked up the IP and it comes from Stamford, Connecticut; which happens to be where WWE headquarters is located. I thought this was too weird not to mention.

Thats the kinda sh*t that the cops should know about. If true there is no way anyone could have known about the death 14 hours before hand unless they either a) witnessed it all or b) were involved in it all or c) knew what waas going to happen.

 

[Game_Breaker]

Thats the kinda sh*t that the cops should know about. If true there is no way anyone could have known about the death 14 hours before hand unless they either a) witnessed it all or b) were involved in it all or c) knew what waas going to happen.

WWE said that Benoit missed the Vengence PPV on Sunday night because of a family emergency.
Now im guessing (if the above is true) that he notified the WWE of the emergency stating that his wife had died.
Then someone who works at WWE headquarters edited Benoits profile at wikipedia, going by the information they recieved from him.


This doesnt prove or disprove anything though, im just trying to work out a possible explanation why his profile was edited 14 hours before his announced death

 

[Jono Russell]

well that's just it though? Have you ever seen those docos on murder. They can almost pin point the time of death to the hour these days. So if this so called person did get a text saying the wife has died. Could they not trace the time of text and so on and so on.

What I am really trying to get at is this investigation is far far far from over. They have so many things to go over and so many clues, possibilities.

 

[Eelementary]

Why are we "defending" or giving the benefit of the doubt to a man we never knew personally? Quite simply, it's because we're human beings who live to see the good sides in people.

We see a man who gives the industry everything he had for years and years; we see a man who would do just about anything to make sure the fans were amused and the industry went on...And we feel honoured to have watched him.

And when news of this shocking turn of events suddenly breaks out, it's a natural reaction to think that, "No...No way did he do this." It's not because we find him innocent - it's because we find it difficult to equate someone you admire with something so horrible.

I'm praying that there are new twists and turns uncovered that exhonerate a man who provided millions of people with hours of entertainment and passion that were pretty much unrivalled. But, realistically, I'm not holding my breath.

All I can say is I feel sick to the stomach and very, very shocked at this all. Whilst none of us knew Benoit personally, people who did attest to him being of sound mind - people who knew him and people who didn't alike tell us that he was a normal man. A good man. A family man. Combined with the love of the man, it makes for a very difficult pill to swallow.

 

[Sugar]

Drugs make people do all sorts of insane things.

 

[IanG]

Why are we "defending" or giving the benefit of the doubt to a man we never knew personally? Quite simply, it's because we're human beings who live to see the good sides in people.

We see a man who gives the industry everything he had for years and years; we see a man who would do just about anything to make sure the fans were amused and the industry went on...And we feel honoured to have watched him.

And when news of this shocking turn of events suddenly breaks out, it's a natural reaction to think that, "No...No way did he do this." It's not because we find him innocent - it's because we find it difficult to equate someone you admire with something so horrible.

I'm praying that there are new twists and turns uncovered that exhonerate a man who provided millions of people with hours of entertainment and passion that were pretty much unrivalled. But, realistically, I'm not holding my breath.

All I can say is I feel sick to the stomach and very, very shocked at this all. Whilst none of us knew Benoit personally, people who did attest to him being of sound mind - people who knew him and people who didn't alike tell us that he was a normal man. A good man. A family man. Combined with the love of the man, it makes for a very difficult pill to swallow.

Very well put Eelementary

 

[Eelementary]

Thank you.

I just...Realistically, I'm thinking yeah...He most likely was guilty...

But the part of me that was so mesmerised by him on the TV for so many years...That part of me is praying that an unlikely outcome took place. Something like an outsider or something. I know it's probably not going to happen that way. But it is so hard to think of someone you admire and respect as a monster.

A good case in point - Winston Churchill admired Adolf Hitler. I read many a quote from him (and saw him say so on video) claiming that a man who loved his country that much and who had such a knack for public speaking was a man worth admiring. And look what happened - the Hitler-led Nazis became the most notorious group of anti-Semitics of all time. Did Churchill think Hitler was innocent? In all likelihood, no. But the fact is the man himself was so taken aback by Hitler's charisma that actually believing he was capable of such things took a while to sink in.

 

[Special K]

Drugs make people do all sorts of insane things.

roids don't make you kill a person, let alone two..

 

[Phillips]

If he indeed killed his family, then he is a blight on society and his great in-ring performances will forever be tarnished.

He does not deserve the same triubtes that Owen and Eddie have received.

agreed.

if it is true, he was a dog and now has no respect from me

 

[ParraDude_Jay]

roids don't make you kill a person, let alone two..

Roids and depression could though, the bloke has had a real tough time since Eddie died.

 

[Eelementary]

http://www.gerweck.net/news/1182862681.shtml

I didn't see it posted anywhere...Now, it may not be a massively reliable source, and it may not have much to do with it, but still it's interesting, to say the least.

 

[Misanthrope]

A good case in point - Winston Churchill admired Adolf Hitler. I read many a quote from him (and saw him say so on video) claiming that a man who loved his country that much and who had such a knack for public speaking was a man worth admiring. And look what happened - the Hitler-led Nazis became the most notorious group of anti-Semitics of all time. Did Churchill think Hitler was innocent? In all likelihood, no. But the fact is the man himself was so taken aback by Hitler's charisma that actually believing he was capable of such things took a while to sink in.

An excellent point. Somebody doing something 'wrong' (or in this case, very wrong) doesn't immediately rule out every other thing they ever achieved in life as insignificant. If it's proven that Benoit did murder his wife and child and kill himself, and that he wasn't under considerable mental duress at the time, I'll never lose my respect for his in ring performances. I've never been a fan of Benoit because he's a great guy - I've been a fan of him because he's a tireless worker who has dedicated years of his life to entertaining people and giving other workers a step up in the industry.

How he died or what he did in the final three days of his life won't tarnish that memory of him for me. Will it make him a bad person? Of course. Will it mean that I cannot still admire his classic matches? Not to me.

EDIT:

Grim details of the murder-suicide are coming to light. We have learned that authorities believe that Chris Benoit strangled his wife Nancy on Saturday, then killed his son Daniel on Sunday either by strangling him or smothering him in his bed. On Monday, he then hung himself, reportedly in the weight room of his Georgia home. More details are expected to be released by officials later today.

TMZ.com has picked up the story and are reporting similar details on their website.

We have spoke with a number of WWE employees since the news broke and they all share our feeling of shock at the events. Everyone, us included, wonder how this could have possibly happened.

Our worst fears look to be being realised