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Coaching preference for 2024

What are you hoping for in our next coaching appointment?

  • Rookie Coach

    Votes: 21 14.5%
  • Premiership Winning Coach

    Votes: 105 72.4%
  • NRL Experience coach with no Premiership wins

    Votes: 6 4.1%
  • Coach from Overseas

    Votes: 5 3.4%
  • Extend Current coach

    Votes: 8 5.5%

  • Total voters
    145
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17,078
Today is the day I think.

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I’m astounded that the NRL allows the GM of an NRL club to be employed by the media as we see with Gould and channel 9. The fact that he is allowed to publicly comment on the administration of our club and possibly undermine the selection process of our new coach is mind boggling. This just highlights how amateur the NRL administration can be at times. I wish Gould would just P$SS OFF

I don’t think your BOD will be swayed by Gus, but like Kane, it is another hatchet job for some reason.

If Flanno gets the gig and sgi is successful, Gus will find a way to say he supported Flanno and congratulate himself somehow!
 

BLM01

First Grade
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Based on this Twitter thread, doesn’t matter who they decide on as coach, it will be a roadblock if Haran & Millward stick around.
1st job should be get rid of them both as they are cancerous to the welfare & future of the club.
I have said for years Haran and Millward were part of the fixed deck chairs
Millward because of his father and Haran because of private relationships I guess
And of course Doust and Craig Young for the mantra that people who have bled red and white as club legends or have family ties are suitable to apply
You see we really are the family club as many clubs set out to achieve
The problem is that was meant for the players as well
 
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The big reveal and the end of this thread I suppose apart from a few observations.

She’s been a good thread, lots of insights, very popular across LU.

Thanks to all the media posters such as @getsmarty and the leaks from HQ, later substantiated. Good stuff.

We’ve all learned a lot about the fickle nature of the game, probably cementing our views regardless of which coach we thought best.

We may have to wait if they cant agree unaminously :rolleyes:

“Disagree “ unanimously!

I’ll be on edge at work today for the announcement which will come with great fanfare and spin.
 
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Wolfgang90

Juniors
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790
Seriously wish the WIN side buy out st.george side so we don't have doust, piggot & the old pricks associated with decision making at the club anymore. They use the long ties to their club as an excuse to keep themselves in power for selfish reasons. They don't give a fk about the club, it's only about their power & ego. They've ruined us for a long time.
 

Wolfgang90

Juniors
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790
Surely the fans can contact the board members to provide feedback? Does anyone know of doust's/piggots etc. contact numbers or email?
 

Victoire

Juniors
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I’m feeling a bit devil’s advocate today so I’m going to attempt to articulate why Dean Young need not be a wrist-slitting choice. * braces for impact *

* His teammates have always pegged him as a future coach. I remember a player survey in 09 or 10 asking players which teammate would most likely become a coach and our answer was like 90% Dean Young. From his playing days I recall one moment in particular when he gave Corey Payne an almighty, and warranted, spray for bludging on the blind side. He didn’t miss.

* The mental toughness he displayed to return from horrific injury and illness during his playing career was extraordinary and earns him all measure of respect. Here’s some quotes from Wayne Bennett the day Young retired. Now, these quotes do not come from a vested interested, or some ulterior motive to undermine the club or anything. There was nothing to gain from them other than to pay respect to Young:

"And this is why I want to do this article," Bennett continued, "because Dean Young was my inspiration."


"As a coach, you can't let him down because Dean Young never found an excuse in his life. And he had a bloody good excuse to retire in 2006 when he got that (golden staph) after that knee operation.



"The doctor told him he'd never play again - but excuses aren't a part of his genetic makeup.



"They just don't exist in Dean's life. There are a lot of wonderful blokes in that club but let me tell you, he is the heartbeat.


"I mean, no-one will ever know what sort of pain he had to go through and the mental toughness it took to continue . . . but having worked with him for three years, I saw what he went through every day.


"I have an untold respect for what he did. People talk about pain being a bit of discomfort. In the end this guy couldn't train until Saturday - and could only do the last 15 or 20 minutes.

"And I want to tell you this, too. We haven't heard the last of Dean Young - because one day we'll all be calling him coach. You heard it here first."


* Success at Cowboys. As assistant coach he helped the Cowboys reach the prelim final last year, but aside from that he helped previously unsung or unheralded players reach their potential. Here’s a quote from former Cowboy Tom Gilbert who made his Origin debut while a Cowboy in 2022

Cowboys’ assistant coach Young, who won a premiership with St George Illawarra in 2010, was a no-nonsense and team-first player who has been a role model for Gilbert.

“The way Deano played and conducts himself epitomises the kind of person I want to be,” Gilbert said.

“He is very switched-on and hard working. He was not the flashiest player but his dedication to being good at the small things was second-to-none and that’s why he had such a successful career.


“I have tried to learn from him and mimic some of those habits the best I can.”

*
Communication style. There’s a clip here of him mic’d up at a Cowboys session, and what I like about the way he coaches here – the way he teaches – is that he asks the players for answers rather than just dictating. He engages them to make sure they know what they’re doing and why instead of just quietly going through the motions. I’m sure this approach is why Reece Robson approaches him at the end to chat more and ask questions (Robson – btw another player whose career has now improved to the point of getting an Origin jersey).

* L plater coach? Perhaps. But he’s been an NRL assistant since 2015 in different environments, has also been an assistant for the Tonga national team since 2019 (in November 2019, Tonga defeated the Kangaroos – the first team aside from NZ or Britain to beat Australia in 41 years).

* Our players. Being an assistant, then an interim coach before Griffin came here knows many of our players already – even the young ones. Guess which coach gave Bud Sullivan his NRL debut?

* Cheating. He's never been banned for cheating


[DISCLAIMER - FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY. THE AUTHOR IS IN NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH THE DEAN YOUNG CAMP AND IS MERELY TRYING TO FIND THE BRIGHT SIDE]
 

Dragon David

First Grade
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Today is the day I think.

P

I don’t think your BOD will be swayed by Gus, but like Kane, it is another hatchet job for some reason.

If Flanno gets the gig and sgi is successful, Gus will find a way to say he supported Flanno and congratulate himself somehow!
Gould will say -

"Look, I have said all along that the club had been in dire straits for such a long time that the Board had to seriously look at the contenders for the head coaching position after they sacked Hook (which I have said all along as well that he wasn't the coach to coach the Dragons, was I right or what?) and while they initially wanted Ryles as the replacement, I couldn't see him turning the club around and that is why I told him to withdraw".

"Isn't it good that Flanagan has taken over and is showing what head coaching is all about. The Dragons are currently leading the competition winning all of their 8 games straight. I knew that Flanagan was the man. I had some doubts but you know me, I can change my mind like the wind and if you are down wind you can smell my farts of stenching bullshit".
 

Mojo

Bench
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On this issue of fact you are posturing on, you state that “ no club would offer the HC position..”

This was not fact. This was your opinion. You don’t really know do you? If so, how?

“Nobody would accept the role on that basis”

That’s another broad brush stroke of opinion, without any evidence either.

So just so you you know, I haven’t made a false statement about what you said.

So please don’t accuse me of making false statements about you. If you disagree, I’d love to read about it and why you make this very strange submission.

From time to time it’s fair I defend my points as I try not to step on others toes.

People will disagree with each other, people will contradict themselves too…who cares?

Gus contradicts himself all the time. He would simply say:

“I’ve changed my mind”
Posturing? You're a classic! You initially accused me of stating my opinions as facts. When I ask you to not make such false assertions, you reply by saying that I'm merely stating opinions. Of course there's no evidence of a club appointing a HC 'on probation' because, as I opined, no club would ever do so and no HC would accept the position on that basis. I disagree with you and I'm glad you don't care. I'll ignore you from now on. Cheers.
 

Mojo

Bench
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Sorry mate I always read your posts with interest but not sure of the continual push for Des didnt he FINALLY come out and say he wasnt interested in the Dragons HC role ? Maybe I have it wrong but that is what he said in an interview I saw.
Yes, you are correct.
 

Mojo

Bench
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How does a unanymous as opposed to a consenus board work? Do you cycle through the options until you find a candidate that all can agree on? No 3-2-1, no run off voting, no first ast the post? Maybe those against Flanno will vote for him if they get their guy as Head if Football or roster manager in a lower posotion. I am a big fan of Hair Clarke myself.
I strongly suspect the 'unanimous' thing is crap.
 
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Bloody useless Board can not get on the same page.. this is the most damaging side affect of this JV, with one faction wanting their candidate , the other, theirs. If we lose Flanagan the NRL must step in to sort this mess once and for all. I hope they recommend a disbanding of the JV.. will be the happiest day of my life.
 

Dragon David

First Grade
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I’m feeling a bit devil’s advocate today so I’m going to attempt to articulate why Dean Young need not be a wrist-slitting choice. * braces for impact *

* His teammates have always pegged him as a future coach. I remember a player survey in 09 or 10 asking players which teammate would most likely become a coach and our answer was like 90% Dean Young. From his playing days I recall one moment in particular when he gave Corey Payne an almighty, and warranted, spray for bludging on the blind side. He didn’t miss.

* The mental toughness he displayed to return from horrific injury and illness during his playing career was extraordinary and earns him all measure of respect. Here’s some quotes from Wayne Bennett the day Young retired. Now, these quotes do not come from a vested interested, or some ulterior motive to undermine the club or anything. There was nothing to gain from them other than to pay respect to Young:

"And this is why I want to do this article," Bennett continued, "because Dean Young was my inspiration."


"As a coach, you can't let him down because Dean Young never found an excuse in his life. And he had a bloody good excuse to retire in 2006 when he got that (golden staph) after that knee operation.



"The doctor told him he'd never play again - but excuses aren't a part of his genetic makeup.



"They just don't exist in Dean's life. There are a lot of wonderful blokes in that club but let me tell you, he is the heartbeat.


"I mean, no-one will ever know what sort of pain he had to go through and the mental toughness it took to continue . . . but having worked with him for three years, I saw what he went through every day.


"I have an untold respect for what he did. People talk about pain being a bit of discomfort. In the end this guy couldn't train until Saturday - and could only do the last 15 or 20 minutes.

"And I want to tell you this, too. We haven't heard the last of Dean Young - because one day we'll all be calling him coach. You heard it here first."


* Success at Cowboys. As assistant coach he helped the Cowboys reach the prelim final last year, but aside from that he helped previously unsung or unheralded players reach their potential. Here’s a quote from former Cowboy Tom Gilbert who made his Origin debut while a Cowboy in 2022

Cowboys’ assistant coach Young, who won a premiership with St George Illawarra in 2010, was a no-nonsense and team-first player who has been a role model for Gilbert.

“The way Deano played and conducts himself epitomises the kind of person I want to be,” Gilbert said.

“He is very switched-on and hard working. He was not the flashiest player but his dedication to being good at the small things was second-to-none and that’s why he had such a successful career.


“I have tried to learn from him and mimic some of those habits the best I can.”

*
Communication style. There’s a clip here of him mic’d up at a Cowboys session, and what I like about the way he coaches here – the way he teaches – is that he asks the players for answers rather than just dictating. He engages them to make sure they know what they’re doing and why instead of just quietly going through the motions. I’m sure this approach is why Reece Robson approaches him at the end to chat more and ask questions (Robson – btw another player whose career has now improved to the point of getting an Origin jersey).

* L plater coach? Perhaps. But he’s been an NRL assistant since 2015 in different environments, has also been an assistant for the Tonga national team since 2019 (in November 2019, Tonga defeated the Kangaroos – the first team aside from NZ or Britain to beat Australia in 41 years).

* Our players. Being an assistant, then an interim coach before Griffin came here knows many of our players already – even the young ones. Guess which coach gave Bud Sullivan his NRL debut?

* Cheating. He's never been banned for cheating


[DISCLAIMER - FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY. THE AUTHOR IS IN NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH THE DEAN YOUNG CAMP AND IS MERELY TRYING TO FIND THE BRIGHT SIDE]
This delay in making an announcement I'm sure has got to do with something involving Dean Young and maybe Hornby as well. They have had thoughts for a while of signing a rookie - naming Ryles as their target but that didn't happen because Ryles had cold feet. With rookies names still on their list, there remains at least 2 of whom bled red and white and still do. Their names are Dean Young and Ben Hornby.

It is my thought that these two will be co-head coaches for the Dragons going forward like it or leave it and Carr will be their assistants. They will no doubt recruit an R & R guy which, we feel or hope will be Nathan Brown and unfortunately Ben Haran will keep his general manager's job.

This is now my prediction. Sorry Guys!
 

twinkletoes

Juniors
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I’m feeling a bit devil’s advocate today so I’m going to attempt to articulate why Dean Young need not be a wrist-slitting choice. * braces for impact *

* His teammates have always pegged him as a future coach. I remember a player survey in 09 or 10 asking players which teammate would most likely become a coach and our answer was like 90% Dean Young. From his playing days I recall one moment in particular when he gave Corey Payne an almighty, and warranted, spray for bludging on the blind side. He didn’t miss.

* The mental toughness he displayed to return from horrific injury and illness during his playing career was extraordinary and earns him all measure of respect. Here’s some quotes from Wayne Bennett the day Young retired. Now, these quotes do not come from a vested interested, or some ulterior motive to undermine the club or anything. There was nothing to gain from them other than to pay respect to Young:

"And this is why I want to do this article," Bennett continued, "because Dean Young was my inspiration."


"As a coach, you can't let him down because Dean Young never found an excuse in his life. And he had a bloody good excuse to retire in 2006 when he got that (golden staph) after that knee operation.



"The doctor told him he'd never play again - but excuses aren't a part of his genetic makeup.



"They just don't exist in Dean's life. There are a lot of wonderful blokes in that club but let me tell you, he is the heartbeat.


"I mean, no-one will ever know what sort of pain he had to go through and the mental toughness it took to continue . . . but having worked with him for three years, I saw what he went through every day.


"I have an untold respect for what he did. People talk about pain being a bit of discomfort. In the end this guy couldn't train until Saturday - and could only do the last 15 or 20 minutes.

"And I want to tell you this, too. We haven't heard the last of Dean Young - because one day we'll all be calling him coach. You heard it here first."


* Success at Cowboys. As assistant coach he helped the Cowboys reach the prelim final last year, but aside from that he helped previously unsung or unheralded players reach their potential. Here’s a quote from former Cowboy Tom Gilbert who made his Origin debut while a Cowboy in 2022

Cowboys’ assistant coach Young, who won a premiership with St George Illawarra in 2010, was a no-nonsense and team-first player who has been a role model for Gilbert.

“The way Deano played and conducts himself epitomises the kind of person I want to be,” Gilbert said.

“He is very switched-on and hard working. He was not the flashiest player but his dedication to being good at the small things was second-to-none and that’s why he had such a successful career.


“I have tried to learn from him and mimic some of those habits the best I can.”

*
Communication style. There’s a clip here of him mic’d up at a Cowboys session, and what I like about the way he coaches here – the way he teaches – is that he asks the players for answers rather than just dictating. He engages them to make sure they know what they’re doing and why instead of just quietly going through the motions. I’m sure this approach is why Reece Robson approaches him at the end to chat more and ask questions (Robson – btw another player whose career has now improved to the point of getting an Origin jersey).

* L plater coach? Perhaps. But he’s been an NRL assistant since 2015 in different environments, has also been an assistant for the Tonga national team since 2019 (in November 2019, Tonga defeated the Kangaroos – the first team aside from NZ or Britain to beat Australia in 41 years).

* Our players. Being an assistant, then an interim coach before Griffin came here knows many of our players already – even the young ones. Guess which coach gave Bud Sullivan his NRL debut?

* Cheating. He's never been banned for cheating


[DISCLAIMER - FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY. THE AUTHOR IS IN NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH THE DEAN YOUNG CAMP AND IS MERELY TRYING TO FIND THE BRIGHT SIDE]
Serving under McGregor for a short time, taking over as HC at Dragons for a short time and being assistant to Payne for one and a half seasons does not qualify anyone to become a successful HC. Compare that experience to Fitzgibbon and Ryles who have spent years under the best head coaches and Flannaghan who has years of experience including a premiership...if Dean Young is appointed it won't be on merit.

Your reference to cheating is incorrect..it was not Flannaghan who cheated but Danks, who was booted as soon as he was exposed. Flannaghans second misdemeanor was for contacting players to support them during his ban... a quality I find commendable
 

jak

Bench
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Gould will say -

"Look, I have said all along that the club had been in dire straits for such a long time that the Board had to seriously look at the contenders for the head coaching position after they sacked Hook (which I have said all along as well that he wasn't the coach to coach the Dragons, was I right or what?) and while they initially wanted Ryles as the replacement, I couldn't see him turning the club around and that is why I told him to withdraw".

"Isn't it good that Flanagan has taken over and is showing what head coaching is all about. The Dragons are currently leading the competition winning all of their 8 games straight. I knew that Flanagan was the man. I had some doubts but you know me, I can change my mind like the wind and if you are down wind you can smell my farts of stenching bullshit".
one of your best dave.
 

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