Coaching preference for 2024

[Dragon David]

Next Dragons coach must make this demand

'Has anyone heard from the CEO?'

wwos.nine.com.au

 

[RedVee_8]

Now now … lomax chased hard. Suli on the other hand trotted

Only Su’a and Lomax chased. The others were way back in the distance, watching

 

[RedVee_8]

This “must be unanimous” stuff bemuses me. I have always understood that to mean that you can disagree and vote against a motion within the board room but once something is passed everybody supports it outside the boardroom.
But they are talking as if one vote against will block any decision???

 

[Yow]

This “must be unanimous” stuff bemuses me. I have always understood that to mean that you can disagree and vote against a motion within the board room but once something is passed everybody supports it outside the boardroom.
But they are talking as if one vote against will block any decision???

Thats the way it should be i posted something much similar a few weeks back you are right

 

[Mojo]

This “must be unanimous” stuff bemuses me. I have always understood that to mean that you can disagree and vote against a motion within the board room but once something is passed everybody supports it outside the boardroom.
But they are talking as if one vote against will block any decision???

But who are 'they'? As far as I can tell it originated from a Hooper article. I doubt very much that it would require a unanimous decision. I'd be virtually certain that the standard that they wish to apply is that it will be a simple majority decision with no public dissent being tolerated. ie; once the decision has been made no Director can come out and say that they voted against. Obviously, unanimity in the decision itself would be the preference.

There would be a company constitution and, more specifically, a board charter that should / would stipulate this. It would be a very silly charter if it included a rule that meant a single dissenting director could lead to the club not having a head coach.

I strongly suspect the mutterings about unanimity are just garbled.

 

[smi962]

Respectfully here are the ages of the winning GF Coaches since 2000

2022	Ivan Cleary	51​
2021	Ivan Cleary	50​
2020	Bellamy	60​
2019	Robinson	42​
2018	Robinson	41​
2017	Bellamy	57​
2016	Bellamy	56​
2015	Green	43​
2014	Maguire	40​
2013	Robinson	35​
2012	Bellamy	52​
2011	Hasler	50​
2010	Bennett	60​
2009	Bellamy	49​
2008	Hasler	47​
2007	Bellamy	46​
2006	Bellamy	45​
2005	Tim Sheens	55​
2004	Steve Folkes	45​
2003	John Lang	53​
2002	Ricky Stuart	35​
2001	Hagan	37​
2000	Bennett	50​

The average age of GF wining coaches is just under 48. Excluding Wayne Bennett, no coach since 2005 has won their first premiership with a new club being over 50.

Great post, I think this rhetoric about needing an old coach who is highly experienced is not that important to me. The ideal coach is intelligent, has new ideas, good people management, lots of energy, can manage upwards and a strong vison/ambitions for the club who wants to lead for the long term. A lot of these traits sound more like a younger coach to me; experience is one dimension, but this can be gained with time anyway.

Tbh I would probably take Bellamy, but not Bennett these days.

 

[blacksafake]

If we go for a rookie how about we get him in now to work alongside Hook for the rest of the year so that he can learn what not to do

 

[slippery5]

Has England coach Shaun Wane been mentioned ?????
Because he is my "dark horse".

 

[Dragonslayer]

After listening to Haram on the podcast, I think the coaching situation us one that needs to be resolved quickly, be that immediate start or confirmed start for '24.

The 'favourite' seems to change by the day, however, imo it's down to 3.

2 experienced in Hasler and Flanagan and 1 rookie in Hornby. Each has their 'flaws', but in saying that, if feel the Board & CEO need to appoint someone they can control. It's just the Dragons way.

 

[Slippery Morris]

I would like to know Haran's preference of the candidates? Seems like he has some irons in the fire in terms of recruitment but needs the right coach in place to make it happen. Hook would be out of the equation as if the players were waiting to see if Hook was coach, they would have signed asap and possibly got a game or 2 under him before he goes but sounds like they are waiting for him to move on to sign to see who is the next coach. They don't want to waste years in KOE like Bud and co are if the make an error whilst Hooks mates make plenty and still get picked.

 

[TheRev]

Has England coach Shaun Wane been mentioned ?????

I reckon we won't get anyone like this.. because we would need to identify & approach them directly.. and thats just not us.. we are 'letting them come to us', so our pool will be closer to home.

I would like to know Haran's preference of the candidates?

Hopefully Haran isn't casting a vote.. because I reckon his job is one of the ones that is most at risk when the new coach comes in.. for example if Browny came in to take over recruitment and mentoring.. or if Hasler/Flanno has someone in mind already.. that said the dragons way is to find him a job somewhere.. we don't seem to let many go... for example Aitken, Elliot, Millward..

 

[justadragon]

I reckon we won't get anyone like this.. because we would need to identify & approach them directly.. and thats just not us.. we are 'letting them come to us', so our pool will be closer to home.

Hopefully Haran isn't casting a vote.. because I reckon his job is one of the ones that is most at risk when the new coach comes in.. for example if Browny came in to take over recruitment and mentoring.. or if Hasler/Flanno has someone in mind already.. that said the dragons way is to find him a job somewhere.. we don't seem to let many go... for example Aitken, Elliot, Millward..

Aitken made a right mess of KOE cup last year, so I dont know what possible benefit he could have for the club.

 

[AyiosYiorgos]

Aitken made a right mess of KOE cup last year, so I dont know what possible benefit he could have for the club.

Just needs to make a mess of the junior squads before he leaves to complete his work...

 

[RedVee_8]

I still haven’t ruled out them giving Hook another year or two.
I’m not advocating that btw but I reckon it’s as possible as anything else

 

[Dragon David]

I still haven’t ruled out them giving Hook another year or two.
I’m not advocating that btw but I reckon it’s as possible as anything else

I wouldn't put it past this Board to do this RedVee.

 

[Dragon David]

JD and Hornby combination working well with the Bunnies. They have a good roster at Souths and if JD and Hornby were at the Dragons with our current squad, not much different would happen under them as they have been under Hook.

The quality of the players makes a massive difference for the Head Coach which goes without saying.

To me it is no use getting a top quality coach when the players are not top quality.

 

[offiah]

Look at the warriors with a new coach, they’re playing like a completely different team and seem to have belief in themselves.

 

[SIR LANCELOT]

Look at the warriors with a new coach, they’re playing like a completely different team and seem to have belief in themselves.

Compare this to a good woman.She will either make you or break you.The right coach the same.Come back Flanno.We need you.

 

[Dragonslayer]

Our recruitment over the last 11-12 years has been nothing short of abysmal.
We have become the 'wanna be' club, rather than the club of choice.

No doubt we have swung the bat at many 'elite' players only for them to use us as a bargaining chip to sign elsewhere.

Who have we recruited that could really be called marquee? Widdop possibly but that is stretching it.

Who is a game breaker, the one you know can turn the game for us? Every other team seems to gave one or even more. I wouldn't classify Hunt in this category either.

Each coach after Bennet, and particularly the last 2 have taken the cheap, safety first, yeah I know this player approach. Unfortunately Hook promised he'd changed and learnt from past mistakes, however, to his detriment, he gas gone down the path of favouring the old guard, the ones that 'its ok I've coached them before, they'll come good' approach. Which has backfired massively.

So, our new coach whoever and whenever that will be, must be able to Firstly attract a marquee player, not just high profile, but a marquee game changer player, and secondly be able to heal the fractures within the playing group. Lastly. Playing players in positions that are most beneficial to winning games.

A rookie may struggle with these 3 points imo.

 

[Slippery Morris]

Getting Brown in charge of recruitment will surely improve what they currently have now. Listening to Haran, his role is spread over way too many parts of the club so handing that over to someone else will surely help and Browny will fit the bill perfectly as he knows the joint well.