Coaching preference for 2024

[dungay dragon]

Yeah till Flanno brings Kyle over and it all changes. This is what Gould wants,so he can get in Bud's ear again.
Hornby/Young combo would do just fine.
They know the youngsters and have the respect of the youngsters.
They have bled for the club and have won a premiership together and will do it again if given the opportunity to coach.

Saintmar
Admired both as players and feel in time both will make it as successful head coaches ..
just thinking the timing isnt right at the Dragons at present
the place is an absolute mess with plenty of restoration needed
We need someone who is experienced and can realign the wheels of the place
Some hard decisions need to be made in staffing , playing roster , recruitment and junior pathways..
Someone like a Flanagan or Hasler for at least 3 years can steady the ship and get us back on track up the competition ladder
The best either could do is agree to take on an assistant role with a view to taking over down the track.....

 

[Lethal25]

This club and board are like a young bloke trying to pull his first root. They'll take pretty much anything to be fair

If Flanagan wants to be that aloof experienced chick fiddling with the straw in their drink then good luck, still a massive shot at scoring by nights end and rightly so. He's coached for 185 games with a winning strike rate of 55% and if you take the first year and a bit out when he was thrust into the job that rate climbs to 60% over 6 seasons. He may not be the prettiest girl in the club but he'll know his way around the bedroom and can bring along some girlfriends unlike Young who's still trying to bag their first one and will likely be married via proxy on Daddy's watch

 

[Revesby boy]

I think some of you have it wrong, I don’t think hiring Young would help the board if they think they can steer the coach in their direction!! I believe hiring Young would only put more pressure on them and they clearly don’t want that.

 

[Gareth67]

When is the big announcement ? I haven’t been so damn excited since the last episode of ‘ Days of Our Lives ‘ !

 

[Gareth67]

He may have played for Australia but a rugby league expert he is not.

Personally I think Flanagan has it in the bag.

I do hope so T.B.V , the Dragons must have a coach who can get the team back to the top , one that will have the complete respect of the players and hopefully over time the club’s hierarchy .

 

[Mojo]

Flanagan said recently about the sgi recruitment business:

“ I don’t think I need to go through an interview process”

Source: Fox

Which means he feels that he should be permitted to have special arrangements made just for him.

Well, that’s not how 99% of organisations hire people.

Seems only sgi and the tigers don’t follow protocol. I can understand wt being cheap, shadowy and dodgy, that’s how we roll these days, but not you guys.

He doesn’t seem to understand or have much insight about what most people in the game think of him. If he did, he’d be bloody grateful for an interview.

Fair go! "Source: Fox" - spare me. Not only are they an internationally famous example of appalling journalism, he also works for them!

I'm also not aware of the head coach hiring protocol you refer to.

Your opinion of him doesn't automatically translate to 'what most people in the game think of him'. Has there been some sort of survey?

Don't get me wrong; I was solidly anti Flan originally. I've slowly changed my mind (we've had plenty of time to think about it after all). Not that my opinion means anything whatsoever - it's just a discussion point, that's all.

I'm pleased we didn't finally torpedo our rusty hulk by appointing Ryles. But, no way in the wide world, IMO, should we bypass Flan to hire Young. I'll commit hari kari if that's the outcome of this agonising process.

 

[baggygreen man]

Anyway - when can we expect Shane Flanagan to be announced as our new long term head coach ?

This week for three years. Who will be his assistants. Will he keep Carr and Woolf, who seems to be keeping a low profile thru all this, or bring in ex Dragons Hornby and Young. I for one want Carr retained, has the makings of a good head coach in three years.

 

[getsmarty]

Dragons coach search

St George Illawarra chief executive Ryan Webb has revealed the club is eyeing former Sharks premiership-winning coach Shane...

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[getsmarty]

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[The Silverdale Phantom]

Fair go! "Source: Fox" - spare me. Not only are they an internationally famous example of appalling journalism, he also works for them!

I'm also not aware of the head coach hiring protocol you refer to.

Your opinion of him doesn't automatically translate to 'what most people in the game think of him'. Has there been some sort of survey?

Don't get me wrong; I was solidly anti Flan originally. I've slowly changed my mind (we've had plenty of time to think about it after all). Not that my opinion means anything whatsoever - it's just a discussion point, that's all.

I'm pleased we didn't finally torpedo our rusty hulk by appointing Ryles. But, no way in the wide world, IMO, should we bypass Flan to hire Young. I'll commit hari kari if that's the outcome of this agonising process.

You referenced your opinion as fact numerous times, but I think if we did a poll of nrl fans, he’s not exactly regarded as a mother Theresa.

Certainly the sharks have zero interest and there’s a reason why.

We agree about Young thank goodness.

I’m standing fast on Des and I’d be working very hard to secure his services for a standard 3 years.

 

[hewi]

St George Illawara Dragons conquer late rallying South Sydney Rabbitohs

• By PHIL ROTHFIELD​

• NEWS CORP AUSTRALIA SPORTS NEWSROOM
• 6:00AM JUNE 12, 2023

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Phil Gould appears to have done an Olympic class backflip on the coaching future of Shane Flanagan.
On Friday he retweeted/endorsed an opinion piece in Nine Newspapers under the headline: “Why Shane Flanagan must never coach in the NRL again.”
In a scathing attack on Flanagan, columnist Darren Kane wrote it was inexplicable that the 2016 premiership winning coach would even be considered for the St George-Illawarra job.
He called on the NRL to block any deal between the Dragons and Flanagan.
This will not be happening. Independent commission chairman Peter V’landys confirmed over the weekend that Flanagan has served his time and paid for his mistakes.
Gould’s retweet of the story was a shock in that three years ago he gave your columnist a copy of a reference he sent to the independent commission in support of the 2016 premiership winning coach being allowed back to coaching.

Shane Flanagan (left) and the story from three years ago Phil Gould has backflipped on.
On Flanagan being caught communicating with the Sharks via emails during his suspension, Gould wrote in his reference: “I am having real trouble agreeing with the suggestion that this has been a ‘serious’ breach of NRL rules.
“I don’t see it as breaking NRL rules. I see it as being supportive and caring for the game, his club and his staff.
“I do not accept the notion that Mr Flanagan is not a fit and proper person.”
Gould does not return phone calls or text messages these days.
Why he has done such an about-face on Flanagan is a mystery.
It’s even harder to understand in that Flanagan’s son Kyle is a member of the Bulldogs’ top 30 squad.

Shane Flanagan is in the running for the Dragons’ coaching spot. Picture: AAP

Phil Gould has changed his tune on Shane Flanagan. Picture: Getty
No-one wants to see their boss involved in anything critical of their dad.
When Gould sacked Trent Barrett last year as Bulldogs coach, he made it clear from the very beginning that Flanagan would never be considered for the Canterbury job.
Eventually he landed the prized signature of Cameron Ciraldo.
St George-Illawarra however is a different story.
They appear certain to ignore the thoughts of Kane and Gould’s endorsement of his column.
We are expecting an announcement to be made this week that Flanagan will be appointed for three years.

Phil Gould’s retweet on a story about why Shane Flanagan should never coach again.
It is the right decision. This club needs an experienced hand.
They need someone with a track record of assembling strong squads from a position where the Dragons are at right now.
Saturday’s win over the Rabbitohs is proof the Dragons are in fact a decent football team.
That Anthony Griffin didn’t leave them in too bad a shape.
There is absolutely no reason to believe this club needs a Gus-style five-year-plan. Flanagan, with the right support staff, could lift them into finals contention next season. He is a proven winner


THIS IS THE GUS WHO SAID THAT MARY WAS OK IS IT NOT

 

[Mojo]

You referenced your opinion as fact numerous times, but I think if we did a poll of nrl fans, he’s not exactly regarded as a mother Theresa.

Certainly the sharks have zero interest and there’s a reason why.

We agree about Young thank goodness.

I’m standing fast on Des and I’d be working very hard to secure his services for a standard 3 years.

I’ve given my opinion, like everybody else here. I haven’t suggested that I know what the majority think of the guy.

I’ve never stated my opinion as fact. Please don’t make false statements like that.

Des has stated he’s not interested.

Des also worked with Dank. So, I guess most people must think Des is Mother Theresa (come to think of it, I can see the resemblance).

Of course, all of this is moot because, as I said, our opinions are completely irrelevant.

 

[getsmarty]

You referenced your opinion as fact numerous times, but I think if we did a poll of nrl fans, he’s not exactly regarded as a mother Theresa.

Certainly the sharks have zero interest and there’s a reason why.

We agree about Young thank goodness.

I’m standing fast on Des and I’d be working very hard to secure his services for a standard 3 years.

Hi Silverdale,

Des not in frame
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We will find out this week.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

I’m just putting up my arguments along with everyone else.

I doubt any view held here gets too much traction at club hq. As we all know, clubs are not the best at listening to members and fans. Sometimes it works, quite often it doesn’t.

The expectation of Ryles and the subsequent disappointment has at least made for tighter security around the choice. It leaked like a sieve last time.

The last person to know seemed to be Rylesy!

He spat the dummy and slithered off to Melbourne for the post-Bellamy carnage.

Maybe he likes aerial png pong?

 

[Mojo]

St George Illawara Dragons conquer late rallying South Sydney Rabbitohs
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• By PHIL ROTHFIELD​

• NEWS CORP AUSTRALIA SPORTS NEWSROOM
• 6:00AM JUNE 12, 2023
• 
  
• 
  

Phil Gould appears to have done an Olympic class backflip on the coaching future of Shane Flanagan.
On Friday he retweeted/endorsed an opinion piece in Nine Newspapers under the headline: “Why Shane Flanagan must never coach in the NRL again.”
In a scathing attack on Flanagan, columnist Darren Kane wrote it was inexplicable that the 2016 premiership winning coach would even be considered for the St George-Illawarra job.
He called on the NRL to block any deal between the Dragons and Flanagan.
This will not be happening. Independent commission chairman Peter V’landys confirmed over the weekend that Flanagan has served his time and paid for his mistakes.
Gould’s retweet of the story was a shock in that three years ago he gave your columnist a copy of a reference he sent to the independent commission in support of the 2016 premiership winning coach being allowed back to coaching.

Shane Flanagan (left) and the story from three years ago Phil Gould has backflipped on.
On Flanagan being caught communicating with the Sharks via emails during his suspension, Gould wrote in his reference: “I am having real trouble agreeing with the suggestion that this has been a ‘serious’ breach of NRL rules.
“I don’t see it as breaking NRL rules. I see it as being supportive and caring for the game, his club and his staff.
“I do not accept the notion that Mr Flanagan is not a fit and proper person.”
Gould does not return phone calls or text messages these days.
Why he has done such an about-face on Flanagan is a mystery.
It’s even harder to understand in that Flanagan’s son Kyle is a member of the Bulldogs’ top 30 squad.

Shane Flanagan is in the running for the Dragons’ coaching spot. Picture: AAP

Phil Gould has changed his tune on Shane Flanagan. Picture: Getty
No-one wants to see their boss involved in anything critical of their dad.
When Gould sacked Trent Barrett last year as Bulldogs coach, he made it clear from the very beginning that Flanagan would never be considered for the Canterbury job.
Eventually he landed the prized signature of Cameron Ciraldo.
St George-Illawarra however is a different story.
They appear certain to ignore the thoughts of Kane and Gould’s endorsement of his column.
We are expecting an announcement to be made this week that Flanagan will be appointed for three years.

Phil Gould’s retweet on a story about why Shane Flanagan should never coach again.
It is the right decision. This club needs an experienced hand.
They need someone with a track record of assembling strong squads from a position where the Dragons are at right now.
Saturday’s win over the Rabbitohs is proof the Dragons are in fact a decent football team.
That Anthony Griffin didn’t leave them in too bad a shape.
There is absolutely no reason to believe this club needs a Gus-style five-year-plan. Flanagan, with the right support staff, could lift them into finals contention next season. He is a proven winner


THIS IS THE GUS WHO SAID THAT MARY WAS OK IS IT NOT

Unsurprising that Gus ends up contradicting himself. Playing politics and considering himself the foremost judge of all things RL.

“Griffin didn’t leave them in too bad a shape.” FFS! His team selections, game plans, rotations and player management were utter crap. There was always a decent footy side there. He refused input from everybody else and damn near ruined us.

 

[Parko1310]

Unsurprising that Gus ends up contradicting himself. Playing politics and considering himself the foremost judge of all things RL.

“Griffin didn’t leave them in too bad a shape.” FFS! His team selections, game plans, rotations and player management were utter crap. There was always a decent footy side there. He refused input from everybody else and damn near ruined us.

Yes, Rothfield's not stating Griffin's performances with first grade were okay. He's saying there are some pieces already in place for a good side because of Griffin, which is 100% true. Look at some of the work on pathways, the signing of Jaydn Su'a, Liddle, Tamale for example. He did some good work did Hook. He just shouldn't be an NRL head coach, but ignoring some of the set up work he did is unreasonable. We're not far off a very good side, the issue is people like Haran and the board hold the club back

 

[Mojo]

Yes, Rothfield's not stating Griffin's performances with first grade were okay. He's saying there are some pieces already in place for a good side because of Griffin, which is 100% true. Look at some of the work on pathways, the signing of Jaydn Su'a, Liddle, Tamale for example. He did some good work did Hook. He just shouldn't be an NRL head coach, but ignoring some of the set up work he did is unreasonable. We're not far off a very good side, the issue is people like Haran and the board hold the club back

Yes. I think you‘re right. Hook’s career record gives a strong indication that he’s a pretty good with strategic plans and financial management. Seems to me he’s a guy who can master some of the hard yards stuff that he can implement as a soloist. I suspect that ‘independent streak’ is the thing that works against him as a coach.

Yes, Rothfield's not stating Griffin's performances with first grade were okay. He's saying there are some pieces already in place for a good side because of Griffin, which is 100% true. Look at some of the work on pathways, the signing of Jaydn Su'a, Liddle, Tamale for example. He did some good work did Hook. He just shouldn't be an NRL head coach, but ignoring some of the set up work he did is unreasonable. We're not far off a very good side, the issue is people like Haran and the board hold the club back

 

[56to66]

There's is a lot dark noise out there, I feel there is massive hate among many Jouno's a out there, they are Trying there hardest to dismantle the appointment of Shane Flanagan, I believe St George will become a heavyweight again under Flanno, many of them would love to see Dean Young get the job or Ben Hornby, because it suits them to write story week in week out about what a basket case the Dragons are.
Believe you me if Flanno doesn't get the gig, expect another 3 wasteful years ahead.
BTW Craig Bellamy was part of the salary cheating scandal with Melbourne back in 2008,2009, 2010, but is placed on a pedestal!

 

[Ghostrider22]

There's is a lot dark noise out there, I feel there is massive hate among many Jouno's a out there, they are Trying there hardest to dismantle the appointment of Shane Flanagan, I believe St George will become a heavyweight again under Flanno, many of them would love to see Dean Young get the job or Ben Hornby, because it suits them to write story week in week out about what a basket case the Dragons are.
Believe you me if Flanno doesn't get the gig, expect another 3 wasteful years ahead.
BTW Craig Bellamy was part of the salary cheating scandal with Melbourne back in 2008,2009, 2010, but is placed on a pedestal!

Your not wrong

 

[Illusion]

There's is a lot dark noise out there, I feel there is massive hate among many Jouno's a out there, they are Trying there hardest to dismantle the appointment of Shane Flanagan, I believe St George will become a heavyweight again under Flanno, many of them would love to see Dean Young get the job or Ben Hornby, because it suits them to write story week in week out about what a basket case the Dragons are.
Believe you me if Flanno doesn't get the gig, expect another 3 wasteful years ahead.
BTW Craig Bellamy was part of the salary cheating scandal with Melbourne back in 2008,2009, 2010, but is placed on a pedestal!

Here we go again. https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...g/news-story/2863fd76c2b8dd0b79881737a5481b89