Cody Ramsey

[possm]

With Ramsey, Lomax, the Feagai twins and Sullivan, we already have the makings of an exciting backline into the next 5 years. Add to these players, Sloan and Schiller and there appears to be a local junior backline we all can be proud of.

I just hope we have the management skill and strategy to keep these players at the Dragons.
Ramsey
Matt Feagai
Lomax
Max Feagai
Schiller
Sloan
Sullivan

 

[BLM01]

With Ramsey, Lomax, the Feagai twins and Sullivan, we already have the makings of an exciting backline into the next 5 years. Add to these players, Sloan and Schiller and there appears to be a local junior backline we all can be proud of.

I just hope we have the management skill and strategy to keep these players at the Dragons.
Ramsey
Matt Feagai
Lomax
Max Feagai
Schiller
Sloan
Sullivan

Nice dream but we wont be able to keep em all and have that as a starting back 7 at the same time especially with the lack of experience.
Schiller is a fullback / centre not a winger
Dufty may improve under Hook and cement the No 1 position
Same goes for Rav...cements one wing position
Clune you have wriiten off?
You forgot about Junior Amone.
I'd be extremely happy if we can retain 5..maybe 6 out of those 8 on longer term NRL contracts when and if they prove they are all ready including Lomax and Id say Sloan + Sullivan as definites
So that leaves 3 out of Ramsey, Amone, Feagai bros & Schiller
Which 3 should we seal long term?.or will there be room for 1 more?...time will tell

 

[Crush]

Nice dream but we wont be able to keep em all and have that as a starting back 7 at the same time especially with the lack of experience.
Schiller is a fullback / centre not a winger
Dufty may improve under Hook and cement the No 1 position
Same goes for Rav...cements one wing position
Clune you have wriiten off?
I'd be extremely happy if we can retain 5 out of those 7 on longer term NRL contracts when and if they prove they are all ready including Lomax and Id say Sloan + Sullivan as definites
So that leaves 2 out of Ramsey, Feagai bros & Schiller
Which 2 should we seal long term?.or will there be room for 1 more?...time will tell

Good points.
There is every chance that Dufty will cement the number 1 spot long term. He was one of our best last year, without him we lose more games. Ask opposition supporters if they want Dufty in our team or not when they face us.
He's very dangerous.
Yes he makes mistakes and probably costs points every game he scores them but if he can get his positional play and confidence up week in week out that spot is his and he'll likely be one of the best fullbacks in the comp.

 

[Maddragon99]

Nice dream but we wont be able to keep em all and have that as a starting back 7 at the same time especially with the lack of experience.
Schiller is a fullback / centre not a winger
Dufty may improve under Hook and cement the No 1 position
Same goes for Rav...cements one wing position
Clune you have wriiten off?
You forgot about Junior Amone.
I'd be extremely happy if we can retain 5..maybe 6 out of those 8 on longer term NRL contracts when and if they prove they are all ready including Lomax and Id say Sloan + Sullivan as definites
So that leaves 3 out of Ramsey, Amone, Feagai bros & Schiller
Which 3 should we seal long term?.or will there be room for 1 more?...time will tell

Excellent points but you’re assuming everyone will develop to their potential, 1 or 2 might get injured or loose form. Schiller is years away & Sloan & Amone are still in the development squad. A lot of footy still to be played for those kids.

 

[BLM01]

Excellent points but you’re assuming everyone will develop to their potential, 1 or 2 might get injured or loose form. Schiller is years away & Sloan & Amone are still in the development squad. A lot of footy still to be played for those kids.

No I was not assuming that. Possm had them in his side together.
You are right though they will progress at different times but they are all around the same level and exposure and will be scouted and offered bigger $$$ by others likely before they all hit their straps and are earning or fully displaying their potential so we likely will not keep em all..just the way of the NRL world today.
I just hope we work out who are the better ones and keep those.

 

[possm]

Maybe I can make things clearer by saying: 'as much as possible, our Canterbury Cup side should be filled with talented local juniors'. In this case we can keep them all in our 30 man squad. A drop in form, rep selections and/or injuries would all provide an avenue for our young guns to be promoted to first grade. For example:
NRL
1. Ramesey
2. Matt Feagai
3. Lomax
4. Max Feagai
5. Ravalawa
6. Sullivan
7. Hunt

Canterbury Cup
1. Dufty
2. Pereira
3.Sauni-Esau
4. William
5. Schiller
6. Sloan
7. Clune

 

[Maddragon99]

Good points.
There is every chance that Dufty will cement the number 1 spot long term. He was one of our best last year, without him we lose more games. Ask opposition supporters if they want Dufty in our team or not when they face us.
He's very dangerous.
Yes he makes mistakes and probably costs points every game he scores them but if he can get his positional play and confidence up week in week out that spot is his and he'll likely be one of the best fullbacks in the comp.

Even in Ramsey’s early stage of development he’s superior to Dufty in Defence, Kick Returns & high ball

Maybe I can make things clearer by saying: 'as much as possible, our Canterbury Cup side should be filled with talented local juniors'. In this case we can keep them all in our 30 man squad. A drop in form, rep selections and/or injuries would all provide an avenue for our young guns to be promoted to first grade. For example:
NRL
1. Ramesey
2. Matt Feagai
3. Lomax
4. Max Feagai
5. Ravalawa
6. Sullivan
7. Hunt

Canterbury Cup
1. Dufty
2. Pereira
3.Sauni-Esau
4. William
5. Schiller
6. Sloan
7. Clune

That’s a very slick backline

 

[Spazer]

Good points.
There is every chance that Dufty will cement the number 1 spot long term. He was one of our best last year, without him we lose more games. Ask opposition supporters if they want Dufty in our team or not when they face us.
He's very dangerous.
Yes he makes mistakes and probably costs points every game he scores them but if he can get his positional play and confidence up week in week out that spot is his and he'll likely be one of the best fullbacks in the comp.

Spot on. Without Dufty in 2020 im sure we get the spoon. The new meta of the game suits Duffs playstyle and dropping him would make opposition coaches very happy.

 

[Maddragon99]

Spot on. Without Dufty in 2020 im sure we get the spoon. The new meta of the game suits Duffs playstyle and dropping him would make opposition coaches very happy.

Sure, but 2020 is in the past. If Ramsey can offer more overall in 2021 then why wouldn’t Hook give a chance at fullback?

 

[Evil Emperor Zurg]

Put Ramsay at fullback. Put Dufty somewhere he doesn’t have to catch a bomb.

 

[Crush]

Even in Ramsey’s early stage of development he’s superior to Dufty in Defence, Kick Returns & high ball

That’s a very slick backline

Dufty showed that he can develop.
His ball playing was excellent at times this year. Yes he scored his usual solo tries from speed and elusiveness but he also had some great try assists.
I hope that Dufty and Ramsey can both play in the backline. Start Ramsey on the wing, see how they both go.

 

[TruSaint]

Put Ramsay at fullback. Put Dufty somewhere he doesn’t have to catch a bomb.

Prop ?

 

[Maddragon99]

Dufty showed that he can develop.
His ball playing was excellent at times this year. Yes he scored his usual solo tries from speed and elusiveness but he also had some great try assists.
I hope that Dufty and Ramsey can both play in the backline. Start Ramsey on the wing, see how they both go.

I agree Ramsey will get the start round one on the left wing outside Max but at some point his dynamism is going to be hard to resist. Plus the opportunity play both Matt & Max on the left will be tempting given that the brothers will be the left side combination for the next decade.

 

[SnowDragon]

Some nice comments here, representing a few different points of view.

we have extra cap room this year... will have more once Normon leaves. Can’t we tie up a few of these promising guys on longer contracts?pay them a little overs now so that they have time to develop in the redV. Give us time to find the best combo’s for us. Only 2 downsides I see, 1) we overpay them (but we have spread the risk) 2) they try to get out of the contract (we enforce as NRL seems to be moving this way).

 

[Maddragon99]

Some nice comments here, representing a few different points of view.

we have extra cap room this year... will have more once Normon leaves. Can’t we tie up a few of these promising guys on longer contracts?pay them a little overs now so that they have time to develop in the redV. Give us time to find the best combo’s for us. Only 2 downsides I see, 1) we overpay them (but we have spread the risk) 2) they try to get out of the contract (we enforce as NRL seems to be moving this way).

In my opinion it seams inevitable that this will be the best starting backline;

Ramsey
Feagai
Feagai
Lomax
Ravalawa
Sullivan
Hunt

Excluding Hunt, Lomax 21 & Rav 24 are the oldest players so that backline could last a decade. Even Jack Bird is only 26 next year.

If it can be afforded sure keep Dufty, Brittian, Clune, Pereira & Williame as quality backup players as you say we have the cap space.

I’m still predicting McInnes won’t be retained so Amone will be the halfback in ‘22 plus Sloan will also be in the top thirty in ‘22.

Embarrassment of riches.

 

[George Sancti]

In my opinion it seams inevitable that this will be the best starting backline;

Ramsey
Feagai
Feagai
Lomax
Ravalawa
Sullivan
Hunt

Excluding Hunt, Lomax 21 & Rav 24 are the oldest players so that backline could last a decade. Even Jack Bird is only 26 next year.

If it can be afforded sure keep Dufty, Brittian, Clune, Pereira & Williame as quality backup players as you say we have the cap space.

I’m still predicting McInnes won’t be retained so Amone will be the halfback in ‘22 plus Sloan will also be in the top thirty in ‘22.

Embarrassment of riches.

A very good backline Maddragon99, and could well be the first choice for 2022. However, I think it may be a little early to expect Sullivan to be our starting 5/8 for 2021. I would start with Dufty at 5/8 and if Sullivan excels in the seconds then bring him into first grade slowly.

 

[Dragonslayer]

interesting comments here and yes we seem to be in a bit of a embarrassment of riches regarding our junior players.

But, how to fit them ALL in seems to be the point up for debate.

Amone,
Feagai, Matt
Feagai, Max
Lomax,
Ramsey,
Ravalawa,
Sauni-Esau,
Schiller,
Sloan,
Sullivan

A couple of these are specialist at their position ie: not makeshift to force a spot. There are massive wraps on young Sloan and Schiller, who by all accounts could be anything.

Expect over the next few years (maybe even sooner) these players will be introduced to 1st grade. The mission for Hook and Co (including reserve and JF coaches) to get them on the pathways.

Will we lose some? Yes would be the probable answer, but we'll have to live with that.

The other point here is, this is the current stock, we still don't know what is coming through in our Jr ranks in SG and HM.

2 years is a very short time in football.

 

[Visionary]

Like many others on here, I think Ramsey could be a very special talent and our future fullback. He and Sullivan are two of the most exciting prospects I can remember. Dufty was great last year and I would like to find a spot for him. 5/8 may be that spot. He did play in the halves during his juniors and last year, he did look to have the passing game for a 5/8. Would he be able to defend in the front line? Would he have the kicking game to play 5/8? I am envisioning a future backline

1 Ramsey
2 Feagai
3 Schiller
4 Lomax
5 Feagai
6 Dufty
7 Sullivan

I would move Hunt to hooker. That would be a very attacking spine, with big fast centres and wingers.

 

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

interesting comments here and yes we seem to be in a bit of a embarrassment of riches regarding our junior players.

But, how to fit them ALL in seems to be the point up for debate.

Amone,
Feagai, Matt
Feagai, Max
Lomax,
Ramsey,
Ravalawa,
Sauni-Esau,
Schiller,
Sloan,
Sullivan

A couple of these are specialist at their position ie: not makeshift to force a spot. There are massive wraps on young Sloan and Schiller, who by all accounts could be anything.

Expect over the next few years (maybe even sooner) these players will be introduced to 1st grade. The mission for Hook and Co (including reserve and JF coaches) to get them on the pathways.

Will we lose some? Yes would be the probable answer, but we'll have to live with that.

The other point here is, this is the current stock, we still don't know what is coming through in our Jr ranks in SG and HM.

2 years is a very short time in football.

I feel Schiller may end up like Burton at Penrith. I very well could be wrong but from my extremely limited knowledge Ramsey has already played FG and killed it, and Sloan seems to be going well at training. I just feel that Ramsey will have such a jump on Schiller that should Dufty fail at 1 in the eyes of Hook Ramsey will likely be first cab off the rank followed by Sloan. Much like Luai at Penrith one of those two may cement their spot and even though Schiller may have more potential he may look for an opportunity elsewhere. As I said I may be wrong but of the real prodigies we have in Ramsey, Schiller, Sloan and Amone only I reckon two of them we can keep and I hope we choose wisely.

 

[Banjo2014]

I feel Schiller may end up like Burton at Penrith. I very well could be wrong but from my extremely limited knowledge Ramsey has already played FG and killed it, and Sloan seems to be going well at training. I just feel that Ramsey will have such a jump on Schiller that should Dufty fail at 1 in the eyes of Hook Ramsey will likely be first cab off the rank followed by Sloan. Much like Luai at Penrith one of those two may cement their spot and even though Schiller may have more potential he may look for an opportunity elsewhere. As I said I may be wrong but of the real prodigies we have in Ramsey, Schiller, Sloan and Amone only I reckon two of them we can keep and I hope we choose wisely.

Sounds like everyone here is positive so that is great news - let the young blokes run that is what me and the missus reckon