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Combined Brothers bid

Desert Qlder

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How would the rivalry against the Broncos rate? Would it be a ready made hate fuelled derby or more like that they have with the titans?

It would be fcking intense.

The Brothers bid would represent a restoration of BRL ideals for a large section of Rugby League supporters in the city, of which the Broncos are the antithesis.

It would be one-sided in the beginning on Brothers part, but over time it would develop into something very special. Just what the city needs really.
 

CC_Roosters

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Sounds great already. It is certainly intriguing and I would like to see the bid develop to become a genuine chance at a license
 

Perth Red

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Here's the two logos mentioned as possibles:

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steeden.

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already alot of blue/white jerseys in NRL. Maybe a green and white irregular hoop would be a good alternate? Maybe they good go really really navy blue so it looked more black ala Hull FC

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the use of navy blue will probably be an issue for the NRL, but any other colours would be sacrilege. I think it would be safe to assume they'll use a very dark navy blue, almost cowboys dark perhaps
 

Perth Red

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I so hope they focus on NT as a main second home to link into. I think it would really strengthen their bid in the NRL's eyes if they can include another growth area meaningfully. The ARLC may chip in some money to help them grow the game in NT and would open up a secondery membership base.

Darwin Brothers
Brothers Rugby League Club was formed in 1958/59,a lot of the foundation members and players came from Wallabies RLC. Wallabies went on to record their fourth straight premiership however their dominance faded and Brothers soon became a force to be reckoned with. Many years later Brothers under the guidance of Frank "Doodles" Ahmat also won 4 premiersips in a row.This record was beaten by Litchfield in the late 90's when they won 5 in a row.
They are aligned with the Brothers Confraternity Australia wide.
Nick named the "Fighting Irishman" and wearing the traditional colors of dark blue & white horizontal stripes, these colors have remained unchanged since the inception of the club in 1958.
The club has produced many great players who have been brilliant rugby league players and outstanding sportsmen.
Frank Stokes a Brothers junior and senior player was recruited to Manly at the age of 16 and played in the then Sydney competition for many years only to return to Darwin and coach the Bretheren for several seasons and is still actively involved.
William "Nungah" Ahmat was the winner of the Darwin Rugby League Best and Fairest newly named the "Frank Johnson Medal" in 1973 followed by Ron Nobbs in 1975, Allan Bradbury in 1978, Peter Alley 1986, Karl Howard 1993 and Chris Cuthbertson 1994.
 

Desert Qlder

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Although the colours are hardly original in the NRL, we are not talking about a Titans-style startup here.

That strip is synonymous with the Brothers and they couldn't possibly wear anything else. Justin Barlow clearly explains that they wouldn't compromise on that, which is a very admirable thing.

I'm sure a compromise of some sort will be reached when playing Canterbury for instance, a flash of green will probably be used in that case. But otherwise there is no reason they shouldn't be wearing the navy and white stripes.
 

miccle

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I'm absolutely getting behind this bid - things have been undoubtedly going well for RL support in SE Qld over the past decade, but this would raise the bar yet again.

The Broncos are just as despised in Brisbane as they are anywhere else, but unfortunately now that just lends itself to people selecting a smattering of teams here and there. We don't have an intense rivalry that comes close to something like Manly/Tigers, Rabbitohs/Roosters or Bulldogs/Eels.

This would be a classic class rivalry and I think that Brothers would have an amazing base of support from the get-go.

Honestly, since it was announced, I've had a good think about what I would do if this bid was to materialise. I've been a Broncos fan since we were admitted into the comp and I was 4 years old, but my family is steeped in the traditions of the BRL (one side Valleys, the other side Brothers), and I think I'd be making some hard decisions if we were to see Brothers come up to the big league...
 
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Good luck to them but after the demise of Brothers-Valleys only 1 year in the Qld Cup, I'm a bit sceptical.

Love to see the 'Fish' back though.
 

Tone83

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I don't see the relavance of the failed qld cup team, first it was different people behind it, and it was qld cup which no one cares about. There are a lot of people out there like me who weren't interested in the qld cup team but will get right behind the nrl team because its the big stage.
 

docbrown

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This is the best bid for SEQ, no question.

I liked Western Corridor, but it is clearly far too narrow in comparison to this.

The Brothers will be an epic success I have no doubt.

Heritage angle.
Existing support base.
Brisbane/Queensland/Northern Territory market targeting.
Strong QRL/BRL heritage vs Broncos corporate rivalry.

Some big pluses for this bid. I think the jersey 'navy & white' issue isn't a big problem at all if the jersey's got existing brand recognition.

Have they discussed a name? I've said before that a new Queensland club should consider just using 'Queensland' so Queensland Brothers could certainly be justifiable given their support base.

As for playing games in regional areas I wonder if they should instead try and partner with Sydney clubs to have permanent away games in those markets, that way they could still keep a full 11 or 12 game season at Lang Park.
 

Desert Qlder

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Doc, you get it right on so many things football related that it shocks me you could be so wrong about the term 'Queensland'.

It is a very poor branding tool that is far too broad and it heavily conflicts with the Origin side. Any RL footy team attempting to use will face a severe backlash because of this.

Besides, the 'Brothers' label is strong enough that they do not need to attach any geographical marker to it. It is ingrained into the psyche of footy followers in Queensland. But if they chose to do so, then Brisbane is a far better option.

Why do you think the Roar dropped Queensland? It was clumsy and awkward, and improper considering they never left the capital. The people of Townsville, Toowoomba, Rockhampton et al. will not fall for it. They will however have respect for 'Brothers', even if they are based in Brisbane.
 

docbrown

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Doc, you get it right on so many things football related that it shocks me you could be so wrong about the term 'Queensland'.

It is a very poor branding tool that is far too broad and it heavily conflicts with the Origin side. Any RL footy team attempting to use will face a severe backlash because of this.

Besides, the 'Brothers' label is strong enough that they do not need to attach any geographical marker to it. It is ingrained into the psyche of footy followers in Queensland. But if they chose to do so, then Brisbane is a far better option.

Why do you think the Roar dropped Queensland? It was clumsy and awkward, and improper considering they never left the capital. The people of Townsville, Toowoomba, Rockhampton et al. will not fall for it. They will however have respect for 'Brothers', even if they are based in Brisbane.

But in this case you actually have a team that's said it's going to be playing home games outside of Brisbane.

I put the use of the term 'Queensland' on par with 'Auckland's rebranding as the 'New Zealand' Warriors and they've seen benefits as a result. The Kiwis haven't suffered because of that change.

I'd have no problem if they were simply Brisbane Brothers or South Queensland Brothers. More than anything though I just want to see them built into a club as big as and to rival the Broncos in both size and ambition.
 

madunit

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Leprechauns?

seriously?

Leprechauns???

They should be canned for coming up with that alone.

why not the Bald Eagle, Aardvarks, Toucans, Rattlesnakes, Polar Bears, Loch Ness Monsters, Abominal Snowmen, Yeti's, Happy Poms, Rational American's or some other fictional, Unaustralian mascot concept.

Leprechaun's...
 

Desert Qlder

First Grade
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But in this case you actually have a team that's said it's going to be playing home games outside of Brisbane.

I put the use of the term 'Queensland' on par with 'Auckland's rebranding as the 'New Zealand' Warriors and they've seen benefits as a result. The Kiwis haven't suffered because of that change.

I'd have no problem if they were simply Brisbane Brothers or South Queensland Brothers. More than anything though I just want to see them built into a club as bag as and to rival the Broncos in both size and ambition.

But Brothers do not have to try to broaden their support base like the Warriors did, the support for them already exists in other centres because they have their own Brothers clubs there.

It seems to me that people from NSW don't appreciate just how strong the Brothers confraternity is in Queensland. It is a network of linked clubs that were all built on the same foundations. If you played for Brothers Townsville then that automatically makes you a fan of Brothers Brisbane.

This even stretches up to Darwin, making the bid an even stronger one.

I asked my father what he thought of this bid this morning, and he said there is no room for sentimentality in modern football, but wished them luck. I disagreed, there is so much goodwill for an organisation like Brothers that it could be the foundation for a monster club. This is for real and could very well be the answer for the fourth club in Queensland.
 

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