Commission to outlaw 'shoulder charge'

[I Bleed Maroon]

No doubt you'll find some way to interpret it in your usual Chicken Little manner...

Please, tell me more about how the 1999 grand final wasn't a penalty try.

 

[Hutty1986]

IBM, please..tell us again how Qld are certainties to win the next 5 SOO series!

 

[Amadaca]

Just bring the God damn thing back already.

 

[de$$ie]

I think this is to cover shit like what Richi Fa'aoso did.

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

IBM, please..tell us again how Qld are certainties to win the next 5 SOO series!

Mitchell Pearce, that's how.

 

[Amadaca]

Mitchell Pearce, that's how.

He's got us there. Don't sell Daley short. He's been as valuable to QLD as Thurston.

 

[Sphagnum]

http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/nrl/news/nrl-makes-changes-to-shoulder-charge-rule/




Not sure how to respond to this.

That makes two of us

 

[Pierced Soul]

I think this is to cover shit like what Richi Fa'aoso did.

[/QUOTE]


this was mooted a few weeks ago, i actually thought it was in place from last round. it's to cover what buderus and fa'aoso did so players cant get away with a the "head clash" defence.

if the shoulder charge is to be banned then this tweak makes sense. of course i'd rtaher the shoulder charge come back...

 

[POPEYE]

Seems the word 'charge' is no longer compulsory, all is needed is to remain stationary side on and wait for the opposition to attack the shoulder to give away a penalty

 

[Springs]

So I was knocked out again yesterday from a swinging arm. It could well lead to brain damage later in life from being concussed so many times right? So by all rights I should sue the ARL for not making the game safe for me. They should ban arms in tackles as it's possible they can cause concussion.

 

[Rabbit toes]

Show me the gun pointed at your head.

 

[Charlie124]

So I was knocked out again yesterday from a swinging arm. It could well lead to brain damage later in life from being concussed so many times right? So by all rights I should sue the ARL for not making the game safe for me. They should ban arms in tackles as it's possible they can cause concussion.

The changes to the rules werent brought in to make the game completely safe, but safer than it was. Which it is.

 

[Springs]

The changes to the rules werent brought in to make the game completely safe, but safer than it was. Which it is.

lol, sure

Thank Christ Inglis got penalised for 'shoulder charging' Williams on Friday. We need to get that out of the game!

Show me the gun pointed at your head

Sarcasm. Learn it.

Forearms, hips, head clashed and knees cause far more concussions than shoulder charges, yet they ban shoulder charges and cause a load of soft or stupid penalties while the game is as dangerous as ever. By that logic they should ban low tacklers from having their head anywhere near knees or hips and they should ban all arms tackles across the chest like Matai's on Friday, even those that don't bounce up.

 

[Pete Cash]

Knee jerk reaction to incidents like bederus accidentally breaking Ferguson's face with a head clash. While it should have been an on field penalty the facts are bederus was simply bracing himself for contact. The idea he could have been suspended for it is silly. I say that as a raiders supporter.

The elephant in the room is that rugby league is a lot faster than union and players will often be caught in positions where they can't help but "shoulder charge" to protect themselves from contact.

 

[firechild]

One of the problems here is that big players are going to be punished for being big. Sandow shoulder charges all the time and doesn't get penalised but if a 110kg+ player shoulder charges it's a penalty every time. Bigger blokes are more likely to cause damage when shoulder charging. It should be the act and not the result that comes under the microscope.

 

[RHCP]

Knee jerk reaction to incidents like bederus accidentally breaking Ferguson's face with a head clash. While it should have been an on field penalty the facts are bederus was simply bracing himself for contact. The idea he could have been suspended for it is silly. I say that as a raiders supporter.

The elephant in the room is that rugby league is a lot faster than union and players will often be caught in positions where they can't help but "shoulder charge" to protect themselves from contact.

One of the problems here is that big players are going to be punished for being big. Sandow shoulder charges all the time and doesn't get penalised but if a 110kg+ player shoulder charges it's a penalty every time. Bigger blokes are more likely to cause damage when shoulder charging. It should be the act and not the result that comes under the microscope.

Agree with both of you.

It sucks but the judiciary/referees always treat things differently when there's an injury. Jeremy Smith (yeah still a bit butthurt that he's out) would have got away without even a penalty if Robinson had got up, played the ball and then went into back play. If he stayed down after Smith probably would have got 2-3 weeks, but since there was a stretcher involved, bam, 6 weeks.

 

[Wizardman]

That call against the canberra winger for a shoulder charge was absolutely f**king disgusting. In NO WAY was that a shoulder charge. Granted he did not use his arms straight away in the tackle, he still used them in the tackle....his shoulder just hit the man first...THE WAY ALL PLAYERS ARE TAUGHT TO TACKLE!!!

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!!!!

 

[eozsmiles]

It was a clear shoulder charge.

 

[NrlCoach]

must be great been a foward now.

Brb running hard at the defenders from the kick of knowing 99% of the time you wont get smashed and lose the ball.

Brb as foward you can shoulder charge the defender when carrying the ball

Brb the only way you will get smashed is one on one

can wait when someone dos a great shoulder charge during the finals which put the spotline on the nrl and this gay rule :crazy:

 

[applesauce]

Just to keep everyone abreast of happenings in the NFL:

NFL, retired players agree to concussion lawsuit settlement
30/082013

The NFL has agreed to spend close to $800 million to diagnose and compensate potentially thousands of retired players who develop dementia and other brain disorders they blame on the violent, bone-crunching collisions that pro football has long celebrated in its highlight reels.

The settlement, which is subject to approval by a federal judge, was announced Thursday after months of court-ordered mediation. It came just days before the first game of the 2013 season, removing a major legal and financial threat hanging over the NFL.

More than 4,500 former athletes -- some suffering from dementia, depression or Alzheimer's that they blamed on blows to the head -- have sued the NFL since the first case was filed in Philadelphia in 2011. They accused the league of concealing the long-term dangers of concussions and rushing injured players back onto the field, while glorifying and profiting from the game's violence.

More...

To all those people that would say the only reason the NFL was sued was due to people thinking they knew the effects and have been negligent, just how serious are concussions now viewed in the game (just 3 days ago):

Concussion could end Kolb's career
27/08/2013

Buffalo Bills quarterback Kevin Kolb suffered a concussion in Saturday's preseason loss to the Washington Redskins, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

The Bills, according to a source, are proceeding as if the "serious" concussion Kevin Kolb suffered Saturday could end his career. Kolb will undergo a battery of tests and the Bills do not want to rush him back even if he can continue his career, the source told Schefter.

While diving for a first down in Saturday's game, Kolb was kneed in the helmet by a Redskins defender. He remained on the field for the final four plays of the drive before departing for the locker room with what the team called concussion-like symptoms.

Kolb, who turned 29 on Saturday, missed time in 2010 and 2012 with concussions, a history that has the Bills concerned. The Bills are already without rookie EJ Manuel, who underwent a minor procedure on his left knee last week.

On Sunday, the Bills signed veteran quarterback Matt Leinart and traded with the Detroit Lions for backup quarterback Thad Lewis.

It is chalk and cheese to how we view them, we now know the potential serious effects, yet for the most part turn a blind eye. This is the same kind of negligence the NFL was originally guilty of.The additional force placed upon the body of the shoulder charge recipient has shown the ARLC made the right choice for the future of the game.