The NFL has just been f**ked to the tune of almost a billion dollars because of it.
And as someone who also follows the AFL I hope the AFL follows the NRLs lead on this in the near future or they will have the same legal risks the NRL has managed to avoid.
The ones who would be suffering consequences now played in the 80s. The game was far slower then played by far smaller men.The NRL has avoided legal situations because there are zero players ever who have suffered long term damage due to shoulder charges lol
The ones who would be suffering consequences now played in the 80s. The game was far slower then played by far smaller men.
Their bodies went through far less trauma.
The consequences will be felt 10-20 years from now.
More than 4,500 former athletes - out of a total of 18,000 retired players - have sued the NFL since 2011, claiming the long-term dangers of concussion have been concealed and that injured players have returned to action too quickly.
Tell me how the AFL & NFL a sporting organizations that are way ahead of the NRL regarding safty of players still havent banned shoulder charge from the competitions.
Fact: shoulder charge is allowed in the NFL
Fact: shoulder charge is allowed in the AFL
As has been pointed out many times, they are different sports.
Touch football is the future as long as that sport also, doesn?t throw up a lot of injuries specific to it. Because if it does then that sport is gooooone too.Ban tackling as it causes broken legs ribs head clash broken jaw eye sockets. ban steping as it can go wrong a cause knee reconstruction. Touch Football is the future :crazy:
Can all the geniuses here pointing to studies based on NFL care to point out when the NFL, due to the current litigation against them, decided to ban shoulder charges?
I mean, they must have banned them right? Because you all look like pretty f**king massive dumbasses if, oh I dunno, they were still a PERFECTLY LEGAL TACKLE in that sport.
Yeah this has got to be the funniest thing about this thread.
If there is a study that shows shoulder charges not contacting the head causes significant head trauma can you post the reference to the peer reviewed journal it was published in please then I will change my view.
The code encompasses two aspects, the processional side and the amateur side. The amateur side will live on forever in one form or another. The professional side is ruled by the fans and not the players or player welfare. The fans are being shafted, the professional side of this sport is a dead man walking as a result. You can?t f**k around the people that fund every aspect of the professional side and expect there to be no consequences as a result. League traded on toughness, League now survives off the fumes of its glorious gladiatorial past ? but people will see through that soon enough.The primary concern is the welfare of the player.without him the code is stuffed.
The game has gone soft, no two ways about it. What is interesting is that despite the crackdown on the spectacular, occasionally injury-inducing plays, injuries are still occurring at what appears to be an ever-increasing rate. Now that in of itself negates the ?player welfare is a primary concern? argument. Clearly player welfare is a concern only in regards to certain facets of play, everything else though, obviously not a concern whatsoever. Player welfare my arse. More to the point though, an abundance of injuries does not denote toughness, many sports have their fair share of injuries but most of them aren?t seen in the same light as League. Ultra long distance runners for example, they pick up and run through a myriad of injuries during their endeavors, hard folk for sure, gotta respect them but their brand of hard doesn?t turn heads in any significant way.If anyone thinks the code has grown soft,ask the Titans and Tigers with the number of injured players on the sidelines,,whether the code is soft.The soft argument is a lot of crapola.
You?re right, the game doesn?t need shoulder charges to be spectacular. But they and the big hit (and to a smaller extent the biff) are the x-factor components of the sport. No other (team) sport has this x-factor in the abundance we once had. It is what separated us from out our competitors and essentially gave us the edge over them. They are what turn heads the most and what people remember the most. They all underpin the toughness legend that helped sell the game. Other factors like brilliant attack, speed, ball skills, well, they?re all largely subjective depending on one?s understanding of a sport, as such, they are in abundance in any given sport. But a big hit, you don?t need to have any understanding of a sport to get that, to be moved by it and to have it seared into your brain forever. It/they are the game?s crown jewels and we?re tossing them into the gutter, the game is on borrowed time as a result.I have never repeat never left a game of rugby league,saying that was a sh*t of a game ,there were no shoulder charges.When I have been to a great game,it is because of the speed,body contact legitimately done,the continuity,lack of errors,and brilliant attack.
Most of these guys played in a time when we had few legitimate competitors. That is not the case now days, we needed an edge, we had an edge and now that?s all but gone. She's a tough ask now for sure.Raper,Pearce,Coote,Lewis,Fulton et al did not need a shoulder charge to stop a player.They tackled effectively (a skill).Shoulder charge is as skillfull ,as a trip.
Some chap in my neck of the woods (Wellington NZ) is just finishing up on ground-breaking research centered around forces generated during impact situations, albeit done on local club rugby players. It involved specially designed mouth guards that could measure the forces players encountered. Can?t remember too much more but to the PC brigade, it?ll be more fodder for them to feed off for sure.100% agreed. Somebody needs to provide links to the peer reviewed studies published in reputable journals which support this ban, otherwise the ban's based on bullshit and hysteria, not science.
The primary concern is the welfare of the player.without him the code is stuffed.
The shoulder charge whilst spectacular on the odd occasion is not in the rule book.
If it is not in the rule book,any damage done to a player as a result of an act not in the rule book,leaves the club/code open to damages down the line by a player.
The code has plenty of contact and indeed accidental which can lead to concussion.
The NFL now has to set aside $675m for players injured as a result of concussion,plus a miriad of other costs that code faces.The NRL is not in the financial position to be able to do that, at present.Concussion can occur as regard any form of heavy contact,and that includes at times shoulder charges(which are not in the rules),whether we like it or not.
If anyone thinks the code has grown soft,ask the Titans and Tigers with the number of injured players on the sidelines,,whether the code is soft.The soft argument is a lot of crapola.
I have never repeat never left a game of rugby league,saying that was a sh*t of a game ,there were no shoulder charges.When I have been to a great game,it is because of the speed,body contact legitimately done,the continuity,lack of errors,and brilliant attack.
Raper,Pearce,Coote,Lewis,Fulton et al did not need a shoulder charge to stop a player.They tackled effectively (a skill).Shoulder charge is as skillfull ,as a trip.
That argument about impact on the brain from a shoulder charge that doesn't hit the head is bollocks anyway, as any player can still hit just as hard and wrap their arms around. We have still seen big hits this year that would hurt just as much as a shoulder charge, the hypocrisy being that if they bounce off the shoulder and they don't have one arm sticking out that somehow makes it worse (and illegal). Absolute shit.