News Coronavirus and NRL

[Quicksilver]

I don't even know if it is possible. But if it is, every manufacturer everywhere, should be busy making parts for whatever machines we need to keep people alive once their lungs start flooding.

Maybe 3D print them, as much as possible? I don't know, but it seems a shortage of machinery is the bottleneck throughout the world that causes Italian style mortality rates and the need for big social distancing.

I guess Italy would be doing it if it was possible.

I reckon Ferrari would be able to make a good one. Holden, not so much.

 

[wibble]

I think you should be careful how you talk to the PM

During the Spanish flue, the land of freedom (USA) made very harsh laws about speaking against authority.

I can't see the same thing happening now, but even so, we will see in many places a use of government intervention that will make most of us uncomfortable. Hopefully it will be for the right reasons and no government abuses the situation, and if they do, they get held accountable in the wash up.

 

[Cactus]

Another zinger.

Since I'm obviously a panicking non expert, can you at all answer the post that set you off?

The PM said he expects 1.5 m social distancing to happen in schools. I said it is not possible.

Bring your undoubted genius and calm reassurance, not to mention awesome meme sharing, to the problem at hand. How exactly is it possible to run schools with 1.5 m social distancing?

Whatever measures that are needed will be implemented. Being alarmist and trying to make something dramatic out of nothing does not help.

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Really feel for this poor bastard... what’s he gonna do to occupy himself on weekends now?

 

[wibble]

Whatever measures that are needed will be implemented. Being alarmist and trying to make something dramatic out of nothing does not help.

So no advice then?

So your actual objection was not to my point, just to how "alarmist" I was. With the depth of your reply it was hard to pick that up.

So given that by default you seem to agree that 1.5 m social distancing at schools is not a possibility, and yet the PM stressed he expects it, what would you say this means? Other than people who comment on it are panicking.

Is it that the PM is saying something stupid?

Should we just trust the PM in general, but ignore specific points he makes that are impossible?

Or (tin foil hat time!) is the PM just trying to sound responsible, and give reassuring (though impossible) advice to keep us calm, so he can wait and see what else needs to be done without people saying that he is doing nothing?

 

[wibble]

Here's another link for all us hand wringers

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...avirus-dont-be-flippant-with-covid19/12056582

I think we should tell all those disposable people to stop panicking.

 

[T-Boon]

Really feel for this poor bastard... what’s he gonna do to occupy himself on weekends now?

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[sempmrh]

Keep in mind that while the number of total cases (counting both active and ‘closed’ cases) within Australia is creeping up, only one is currently listed as serious or critical. Over the next week or so you’ll probably see more people added to the recovered total. Hopefully we can keep a lid on things, head in the right direction and start getting back to normal.

Of course, I’m not an expert - but nobody else here is either. That’s just how I’m looking at things.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Really feel for this poor bastard... what’s he gonna do to occupy himself on weekends now?

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I remember that sign and thinking how proud he must’ve been to come up with it. Probably let out a big guffaw and slapped his knee thinking, “the folks on the hill are gunna fuggin’ love it”.

 

[T-Boon]

Yes I think the problem for Italy is they didn't really have the awareness of the need to keep it away from the really vulnerable. I think anyone over 70 is going to be well and truly keeping to themselves.

 

[flippikat]

....this has been the worst season of rugby league so far


FML Coronavirus (who dah f..k eats bats anyway)

Well, there was that incident with Ozzy Osborne biting the head off one, but that was a mixup - he thought it was a plastic prop.

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

I remember that sign and thinking how proud he must’ve been to come up with. Probably let out a big guffaw and slapped his knee thinking, “the folks on the hill are gunna fuggin’ love it”.

He turns up every week wherever the game is with his sign..

If the dragons play again behind closed doors at kogarah or Wollongong, I hope they let him stick his sign in the grass on the hill as a testimony to fans like him..

In fact I think it would be a great idea if the signs, flags etc of all teams fans can be allowed to display their signs and flags at their teams grounds, as a symbol of appreciation

 

[Perth Red]

Here's another link for all us hand wringers

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...avirus-dont-be-flippant-with-covid19/12056582

I think we should tell all those disposable people to stop panicking.

tbf she is still much more likely to die from someone passing on one of the other influenza viruses, we don’t have this mass panic every flu season.

 

[Quicksilver]

He turns up every week wherever the game is with his sign..

If the dragons play again behind closed doors at kogarah or Wollongong, I hope they let him stick his sign in the grass on the hill as a testimony to fans like him..

In fact I think it would be a great idea if the signs, flags etc of all teams fans can be allowed to display there signs and flags at their teams grounds, as a symbol of appreciation

As long as they stand 1.5m apart I can't see a problem.

Maybe we just tell fans they can turn up with a massive flag but they have to stand far enough apart to wave them without hitting someone.

 

[Quicksilver]

Actually, are they planning on letting any fans in?

100 or so from each team would be better than no one I suppose.

 

[wibble]

Keep in mind that while the number of total cases (counting both active and ‘closed’ cases) within Australia is creeping up, only one is currently listed as serious or critical. Over the next week or so you’ll probably see more people added to the recovered total. Hopefully we can keep a lid on things, head in the right direction and start getting back to normal.

Of course, I’m not an expert - but nobody else here is either. That’s just how I’m looking at things.

I like your optimism (as opposed to my panic...).

With 250 cases, and our health system not overwhelmed, we would expect mortality to be in the much nicer region that South Korea has, of maybe 0.5%, so 1 current critical (with 3 deaths so far) seems about "right".

We are in community transmission now though. We have doubled confirmed cases in 3 to 4 days. Which is actually a higher rate of doubling than "normal", though with low initial numbers, and probably many unconfirmed cases, it is not abnormally higher.

Yes I think the problem for Italy is they didn't really have the awareness of the need to keep it away from the really vulnerable. I think anyone over 70 is going to be well and truly keeping to themselves.

The social distancing needs to happen for everyone, not just the "over 70s".

Italy were as aware as anyone that it was an issue for older people. What they didn't do properly until just recently was social distancing for everyone.

You can't keep people over 70 (and other vulnerable people) apart from everyone else but have everyone else mixing freely. Coronavirus will spread quickly to the supposed non vulnerable (who will discover that some are in fact vulnerable, and some "perfectly healthy" people will die anyway), and then any of those that need to provide essential services to the vulnerable will spread it to them.

It needs to be slowed for the whole population, so that medical systems will cope.

I'm not opposed to suggestions about trying unique social distancing given Australia's unique circumstances. We could, for example, try social distancing in Sydney and Melbourne before elsewhere, as we have such a disproportionate number of people living either in the two major cities, or quite remotely, so this could work. Epidemiologists will no doubt run models and take their best guess at how we should do social distancing.

The people who are downplaying this, calling out panicking, are just like most Italians from a month ago.​

 

[flippikat]

The Warriors should come home NOW.

Not after round 2, not when the competition is inevitably suspended after a player gets Covid-19, NOW.

If the NRL needs a 16th team & an 8th game per weekend to fulfill broadcast contracts then either promote a Qld cup team in the Warriors place, or scout out a composite team from the 2nd tier.

Hell, it might even be a back-door way towards expansion to 17 teams once the Warriors are back next year.

 

[T-Boon]

The people who are downplaying this, calling out panicking, are just like most Italians from a month ago.​

I doubt it. I think the Italians a month ago would have been like how we were a month ago.

 

[Quicksilver]

The Warriors should come home NOW.

Not after round 2, not when the competition is inevitably suspended after a player gets Covid-19, NOW.

If the NRL needs a 16th team & an 8th game per weekend to fulfill broadcast contracts then either promote a Qld cup team in the Warriors place, or scout out a composite team from the 2nd tier.

Hell, it might even be a back-door way towards expansion to 17 teams once the Warriors are back next year.

PERTH REDS!!!!!!

 

[wibble]

tbf she is still much more likely to die from someone passing on one of the other influenza viruses, we don’t have this mass panic every flu season.

At the moment she is.

If we downplay proper measures now by calling them mass panic, then she is one of the ones likely to die from coronavirus.

We could stand to be a bit better prepared about flu seasons, as well. Everyone should be having vaccines for flu.

But coronavirus has easily swamped local areas is just three or four weeks, much worse than any flu. And it has stopped doing that only with strict measures put in place to control it, unlike any ever done for regular flu seasons (though of course some flu outbreaks like H1N1 had some countries implement strict measures, as they were worse strains).

I'm not saying you should buy 17 packets of toilet paper. That is stupid.

But you should be prepared to start strict social distancing. You should be supportive of it. Even if it wrecks our NRL season. Even, and this is tough I know, if it causes you a lot of financial hardship.

Because if we don't put in those measures and become like Italy, the woman from this article, and thousands like her, is in a lot more trouble than from any recent flu outbreak.