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Craig Field

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With all due respect CrazyTiger you're assuming that the man who died was somehow hassling/bothering Field. No-one even knows if that is what occurred.
 
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most of it!

Seriously, go back and read you own posts and look at them as if it was someone else writing it. I really hope it is just coming across differently than you intend.

By the way, the comment about Anita Coby...please don't suggest those animals are famous(ie: of Anita Coby fame). They are total scum.
 
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It's sad that people think that. I don't know if it's 100% true. But when you think about the people they are dealing with, well I can see why they may resort to underhanded means. How many of the scumbags we want off the streets tell the truth? Most of the time you hear people getting stitched up by the police, they aren't clean anyway. Got to giggle a bit when some sh!tbag crim claims they have been unfairly dealt with. The pot calling the kettle black and all that.

Have to remember the police don't deal with people like you and me. If someone feels that they are continually being unfairly treated by the police, then maybe they should have a look at the things they are continually doing. Gaols are full of people who reckon they got stitched up.

I've got to say I'd rather my kid was cop than in the KKK.

If the cops want to get the real crooks off the street, they should start with gina rinehart and work their way down.

Load up the harpoons and raid her house.
 
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With all due respect CrazyTiger you're assuming that the man who died was somehow hassling/bothering Field. No-one even knows if that is what occurred.

and if he was hassling/bothering Field...leave, walk away. If the other bloke throws one, by all means defend yourself.

No excuse, no sympathy.
 
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Give over, that dude sounded like he was high on meth and not in control of his
faculties.

Are you seriously suggesting that there are not different degrees of murder?

And being drugged up or pissed is an excuse somehow? It shouldn't be. You punch someone, I believe you should be absolutely liable for the consequences.
 

CrazyTiger

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It's sad that people think that. I don't know if it's 100% true. But when you think about the people they are dealing with, well I can see why they may resort to underhanded means. How many of the scumbags we want off the streets tell the truth? Most of the time you hear people getting stitched up by the police, they aren't clean anyway. Got to giggle a bit when some sh!tbag crim claims they have been unfairly dealt with. The pot calling the kettle black and all that.

Have to remember the police don't deal with people like you and me. If someone feels that they are continually being unfairly treated by the police, then maybe they should have a look at the things they are continually doing. Gaols are full of people who reckon they got stitched up.

I've got to say I'd rather my kid was cop than in the KKK.

The government has two enemies, people from outside (foreigners), and people from
within (their citizens). The police are the government's means for controlling its citizens
at the end of a gun.

Never the trust the Police. All they ever want are more powers.
 

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and if he was hassling/bothering Field...leave, walk away. If the other bloke throws one, by all means defend yourself.

No excuse, no sympathy.

Agreed. It's all pretty sad really, whether he was being bothered or not, Field is now 39, you think he'd grow up sometime and just learn to walk away from shit.
 

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and if he was hassling/bothering Field...leave, walk away. If the other bloke throws one, by all means defend yourself.

No excuse, no sympathy.

I wrote a post a while back that I tried to make its own thread and should have been
left as such. It was regarding the public shift towards bothering public figures for a
reaction.

I'm not defending Craig Field per se, I am just saying this stuff is more likely to happen
if you bother people you should be leaving alone.
 

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Never the trust the Police. All they ever want are more powers.

Sorry, I have to disagree. I'm sure the family of the man who died are very appreciative of the job that the NSW detectives and DPP are/will be doing.
 

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And being drugged up or pissed is an excuse somehow? It shouldn't be. You punch someone, I believe you should be absolutely liable for the consequences.

OK then, what about the guy who puched the 66 year old (over water restrictions) and he
had a heart attack.

Beng drugged up and pissed is actually a defence, on the grounds that it isn't pre meditated.
 

CrazyTiger

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Sorry, I have to disagree. I'm sure the family of the man who died are very appreciative of the job that the NSW detectives and DPP are/will be doing.

There are plenty of decent Policemen/women, that is not the point. The role of the Police force is to protect a government from it's own citizens. We should be very careful about
any powers they demand.

I'm from NSW, when I was about 15 they finally got Rogerson out of the force. By the time
I was about 27 they finished flushing out the likes of Trevor Hakin. The police force in
NSW has been corrupt most of my life.

We now have a different kind of corrupt police force in NSW. The Police are now a revenue
raising outfit for the state government.

Example of ridiculous request for power: Any policeman killed in line of duty results in
a never to be released life sentence. Who in their right mind would give that kind of
power to the NSW police force.
 
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The government has two enemies, people from outside (foreigners), and people from
within (their citizens). The police are the government's means for controlling its citizens
at the end of a gun.

Never the trust the Police. All they ever want are more powers.
 

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Fire

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There are plenty of decent Policemen/women, that is not the point. The role of the Police force is to protect a government from it's own citizens. We should be very careful about
any powers they demand.

I'm from NSW, when I was about 15 they finally got Rogerson out of the force. By the time
I was about 27 they finished flushing out the likes of Trevor Hakin. The police force in
NSW has been corrupt most of my life.

We now have a different kind of corrupt police force in NSW. The Police are now a revenue
raising outfit for the state government.

I wouldn't say 'protect' the government, they are there to 'coerce' citizens (which is what police forces do in every State around the world). We live in an imperfect democracy, so we do get a say on what powers they're given (i.e., you joining civil rights bodies, etc).

Point taken on how the NSWPF used to be corrupt, and they do raise revenue, but in my opinion the NSWPF really aren't that bad compared to others around the world.
 

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Hi Miller

I went to the capitol theatre on Friday night and the streets were teaming with Police and
they were all over town hall station. I would rather take my chances being killed by a drunk than being surrounded by armed halfwits armed to the teeth, who will taser you in the
back over a packet of biscuits.
 
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Why are NSW police media so keen to leak the information re names, the fact Field `king hit' the man in question, Field's name etc ? Yet when one of their own tasers a bloke for an alleged packet of biccie's we get a `full investigation underway and it we won't comment until that is finished'. A few soundbites for 2-3 days til something else makes the front pages and so sign of the `full investigation'. Funny that isn't it.

Watch the 4 corners thing on that Lakemba bloke. Some fat dyke whore cop being led by police internal affairs with the `investigating officer' basically telling this fat pig what to say. If I was that Adam fella's old man I'd have got an AK47 and shot 50 of the low lying vermin filth as payback.

Cops are scum who hide behind the blue line and bend and manipulate laws passed by corrupt governments to fool the dopey proletariat that they are needed to protect society from anarchy.

I tell you what you mugs, go to Arq where everyone is off their collective tits on ecstasy and tell me how much violence there is there and how many people are dead after chewing on a tab then go to scruffy murphy's and tell me how many punches are thrown by pissed blokes. Then tell me which is a more damaging drug.

And yet the police tell the world that drugs are the scourge and they get some 2 pippa who thinks he's churchill tell the world they have rid the streets of drugs after a big bust, because it's what the dopes want to believe. He might even try and use words of 2 syllables or more to make himself sound intelligent as opposed to the sub 50 IQ cretin who can't count to 20 that he truly is
 

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Point taken about the automatic life sentence if you kill a cop. There might be a bit of theory/practice with that one though, and I'm not a criminal lawyers so don't know the laws surrounding that. Anyways, I'm off to watch MNF.
 

CrazyTiger

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I wouldn't say 'protect' the government, they are there to 'coerce' citizens (which is what police forces do in every State around the world). We live in an imperfect democracy, so we do get a say on what powers they're given (i.e., you joining civil rights bodies, etc).

Point taken on how the NSWPF used to be corrupt, and they do raise revenue, but in my opinion the NSWPF really aren't that bad compared to others around the world.

I'm quoting Noam Chomsky on the protection of government issue. The Police force
is necessary, I could not agree more. However, Australia is lurching to the right on
civil libertarian issues, which is being driven by the Murdoch press, ie. soft sentencing,
going soft on crime etc.

You are absolutely correct that our police force isn't too bad compared with other around
the world. The point is, it takes vigilance to make sure we don't go end up with some
of the kinds of police forces that exist.
 

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