Crowd Watch 2011 Mk II

[Raiderdave]

Arrogance on their point? You obviously need to read your own posts, You have more hubris than the AFL could ever aim for.
Near record attendances are not Record attendances. So the league was healthier when those records were actually set.
7 planned expansion bids including one from PNG who pay their players $500 in a test match. Yeah they have the finiances to launch a team in this climate and this game. All the huffing and puffing from Bids do not make the game healthier than its ever been. They dont want to add to the game, they want MONEY.
The alcohol fuelled incidents have caused sponsors to withdraw from the game. Caused members distress and provoke them on the idea of not ruining membership or buying merchandise while giving teams black eyes.
Wettest season in 60 years? No that was last year.
The AFL has a salary cap breach as well. But of course you wouldnt know about that because youre to dim-witted to open your eyes around you to the rest of the game and the different codes in Australia.
Essendon/AFL are considering legal battles if the Brisbane Bombers get picked as a successful bid. And im sure their million dollar lawyers have a much better grasp on copyright infringements than your stupid ass does.

The NRL is no more advanced than it was when it had 20 teams in the comp.
Nothing has changed. Youre just believing what the media is trying to throw down your throat.
They have their own agenda to try and push.
You dont think for a second the NRL would allow their independent review of the next tv contract to say anything bad?
Of course not.
Cronulla, Panthers, Roosters numbers and support have been going down for quite a while, now the titans are going down as well while they try and Fib and make out everything is all peaches and cream.
When even the doggies which usually has the highest attendance numbers of all the sydney clubs go down.
How is the game in a better position?

If the NRL have to keep on propping up teams because they are in the AFL firing line. HOW is the game better for that?
If the NRL has to support Cronulla, which they have done in the past and have to do every year.
How is the game in a better position?
Shitty at the world? Why? Because my team is going like shit?
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Youve been pushing your anti cronulla agenda all f**king week while claiming the nrl is in the best position its ever been in.
If it was really in the best position its ever been in, it wouldnt have not one, not two, not three but many more "dead weight" teams in the actual comp.
Your team drew 12000 on a Sunday arvo.
Your team is not immune from the downstroke the NRL has been on in the latter half of this year and in general.

Youre deluded if you think the game is on the rise.
Its just the fake sound of progress.

a near record would have been a record with better weather & no ... last year was about 40% drier then this

a side from PNG would be a better option financially then your lot
a team from the south pole would be too come to think of it :lol:

you take singular random incidents of misbehaviour as a reason for the games ill health ... its not desired , but also hardly a pointer to the game as a wholes ill health ... look at the AFL for christ sakes ... in a far worse boat then the NRL ... far worse

if the Swans breached the AFL's cap the way the storm did ours.. the AFL would never of let it see the light of day .. the NRL has guts & integrity .. the AFL does not

again ... no action has or will ever take place against the Brisbane Bombers you utter fool

crowds are up 50 % on 1998 .. when we had 20 sides you gumbie , TV ratings about the same .. you are battling against a current of s.hit in a creek without a paddle such is your lack of knowledge with such ignorance of the facts

the NRL can't make up TV ratings you tool .. they are independantly gathered & they are unparralled ATM & have our code as the most watched in the Nation , bar nothing

the only club not able to cover a loss of support at the gate is your sorry mob, again your lame attempt at comparisons are pointless as all the clubs you've named are not in the same sinking boat as the Sharks

the Dogs with a better season would have been knocking on the Swans door re average crowds .. again with the lame ill informed attempts at deflection

and the last highlighted blurt from yourself

you mean do exactly the same thing the AFL have been doing for 30 years

yet their game is doing just fine ... isn't it :sarcasm:

nuff said
you have little idea about anything
nothing
random pointless ill informed ... irrelavent garbage;-)

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Why are you responding to r2d2?

The fella is a flip.

 

[elbusto]

Why are you responding to r2d2?

The fella is a flip.

Dunno.

 

[Raiderdave]

Legal threat fails to scare Bombers

• Peter Badel
• From: The Courier-Mail
• July 15, 2011 12:00AM

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BASES COVERED: Bombers bid team bosses Craig Davison, Bill Rae and Nicholas Livermore. Picture: Liam Kidston Source: The Courier-Mail



BRISBANE Bombers boss Craig Davison yesterday dismissed the prospect of a legal showdown with AFL hierarchy and powerhouse club Essendon, defiantly declaring: "Go for it."

The Brisbane bid consortium upped the ante in the NRL expansion race, officially unveiling their Bombers brand at a slick launch hosted by former Maroons lock Billy Moore at Albion Park.
But the Bombers moniker has raised alarm bells in AFL-mad Melbourne, with Essendon to seek legal advice via the AFL's lawyers on whether the prospective NRL franchise has breached intellectual property laws.
Davison, however, shot down suggestions rugby league's Bombers were facing a legal bunfight before they had kicked a ball in anger.
"Go for it, let them do it ... but they won't," said Davison when asked if his organisation was bracing for a legal stoush with Essendon. "We have no problem at all about that direction. My company, The Outdoor Furniture Specialists, has a trademark, I can trademark the logo but I can't trademark the words.
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"In our situation, the Brisbane Bombers is a logo, it's independent, and it's got nothing to do with Essendon. Their lawyers will tell them there isn't an issue.
"We've had three separate legal opinions, we have the company name registered, the domain logos and the IP (Intellectual Property) under way.
"They (Essendon) will get advice as a courtesy from the legal people but let's look at the precedents. You have the NSW Blues, the Carlton Blues, the Australian Kangaroos, North Melbourne Kangaroos, how about the Bulldogs and Tigers?
"Now we have the Bombers. We have every legal base covered ... we're 100 per cent sweet."
Should they win admission to the NRL, the Bombers plan to operate out of a redeveloped Albion Park. In conjunction with Racing Queensland, the multimillion-dollar project will include two playing fields, gym and administrative facilities.
The bid launched their brand with a video clip featuring an air-raid siren as dark shadows of bomber planes loomed over a packed Suncorp Stadium.

oh don't bamboozle him with facts elbusto
he believes in santa claus , the toothfairy .. & the NRL is on the slide
an escaped mental patient is this one ;-)

 

[Snappy]

Ticket sales for Bronocs v Rabbitohs approaching 40k, say Broncos CEO in an interview today about the round 26 sell out. (see video link)

http://www.nrl.com/broncos-riding-lockyer-emotion/tabid/10874/newsid/64319/default.aspx

 

[M2D2]

a near record would have been a record with better weather & no ... last year was about 40% drier then this

a side from PNG would be a better option financially then your lot
a team from the south pole would be too come to think of it :lol:

you take singular random incidents of misbehaviour as a reason for the games ill health ... its not desired , but also hardly a pointer to the game as a wholes ill health ... look at the AFL for christ sakes ... in a far worse boat then the NRL ... far worse

if the Swans breached the AFL's cap the way the storm did ours.. the AFL would never of let it see the light of day .. the NRL has guts & integrity .. the AFL does not

again ... no action has or will ever take place against the Brisbane Bombers you utter fool

crowds are up 50 % on 1998 .. when we had 20 sides you gumbie , TV ratings about the same .. you are battling against a current of s.hit in a creek without a paddle such is your lack of knowledge with such ignorance of the facts

the NRL can't make up TV ratings you tool .. they are independantly gathered & they are unparralled ATM & have our code as the most watched in the Nation , bar nothing

the only club not able to cover a loss of support at the gate is your sorry mob, again your lame attempt at comparisons are pointless as all the clubs you've named are not in the same sinking boat as the Sharks

the Dogs with a better season would have been knocking on the Swans door re average crowds .. again with the lame ill informed attempts at deflection

and the last highlighted blurt from yourself

you mean do exactly the same thing the AFL have been doing for 30 years

yet their game is doing just fine ... isn't it :sarcasm:

nuff said
you have little idea about anything
nothing
random pointless ill informed ... irrelavent garbage;-)

Not in sydney it wasnt.
With how many games ive been to both this year and last.
Last winter was much wetter.
PNG league has less money than Cronulla does. So yeah. They are in a MUCH better position.
Swans didnt breach, but Carlton sure did and they copped it so bad they were f**ked for SEASONS. not just the season they cheated with.
If the NRL were as serious as the AFL were about it, Melbourne wouldnt be in the position they are today.
You can claim they wouldnt do it if it happened to Sydney. But thats purely hypothetical and moot.

Singular incident? They have been going all season and not just this season but EVERY season. They never stop.
The only joy is that Weve had gangbangs, rape, glassings, assaults in toilets in the pasts.
Thats such a great improvement by the league that now were just down to DUI's and Assaults in houses now.

The NRL cant make up TV numbers. but they can and sure have cooked up attendance numbers this year.
Cover a loss of support?
Are you brain dead?
Weve had clubs all year long cook up numbers to hide dwindling numbers. So your giving Cronulla shit for NOT covering it all up?
Wow. Youre looking excuses everywhere to try and talk up the game while your points are actually putting the state of the league DOWN.

Dogs havent had a better season. So you talking up hypothetical again doesnt help you.
You claiming the league is doing so great but looking for bullshit numbers if certain clubs were doing better they would be doing better.
But they are not.
Theyre attendances are dwindling as well.

AFL are going great guns.
They make more money per year than we do.
Theyre attendance figures outshine ours year in year out.
And they even have enough money to buy OUR players as a marketing campaign to wage war out our heartlands.

But no.

The NRL is healthier than its ever been.

Nice attempt at a flame mate. Unlike you I check my facts. This was discussed in 'the Australian' some weeks ago. You cannot Copywright a Football Club name. There are 'Bombers' all around the country buddy. Believe what you like but you are talking crap.

Congrats. You gave a link which is a puff piece FROM THE PEOPLE DOING THE ACTUAL BID. Do you think they will say "oh, we stuffed up, were using a brand name thats already been used elsewhere and is synonymous with another football club"
Even the NRL wasnt amused by the bid name. If the HEAD HONCHO who is an ACTUAL LAWYER isnt happy with the name choice as HES worried about lawsuits not on the off chance that the AFL win, but because this offers the AFL another free shot at another marketing campaign against the NRL.


Im not claiming NRL is on the slide. Im simply stating everything isnt as gravy as you claim it to be.
The NRL isnt better or worse off than they have been in ages.
Claiming otherwise doesnt make it so.

 

[NRL-TGG]

Ticket sales for Bronocs v Rabbitohs approaching 40k, say Broncos CEO in an interview today about the round 26 sell out. (see video link)

http://www.nrl.com/broncos-riding-lockyer-emotion/tabid/10874/newsid/64319/default.aspx

This is fantastic news!

 

[elbusto]

Not in sydney it wasnt.
With how many games ive been to both this year and last.
Last winter was much wetter.
PNG league has less money than Cronulla does. So yeah. They are in a MUCH better position.
Swans didnt breach, but Carlton sure did and they copped it so bad they were f**ked for SEASONS. not just the season they cheated with.
If the NRL were as serious as the AFL were about it, Melbourne wouldnt be in the position they are today.
You can claim they wouldnt do it if it happened to Sydney. But thats purely hypothetical and moot.

Singular incident? They have been going all season and not just this season but EVERY season. They never stop.
The only joy is that Weve had gangbangs, rape, glassings, assaults in toilets in the pasts.
Thats such a great improvement by the league that now were just down to DUI's and Assaults in houses now.

The NRL cant make up TV numbers. but they can and sure have cooked up attendance numbers this year.
Cover a loss of support?
Are you brain dead?
Weve had clubs all year long cook up numbers to hide dwindling numbers. So your giving Cronulla shit for NOT covering it all up?
Wow. Youre looking excuses everywhere to try and talk up the game while your points are actually putting the state of the league DOWN.

Dogs havent had a better season. So you talking up hypothetical again doesnt help you.
You claiming the league is doing so great but looking for bullshit numbers if certain clubs were doing better they would be doing better.
But they are not.
Theyre attendances are dwindling as well.

AFL are going great guns.
They make more money per year than we do.
Theyre attendance figures outshine ours year in year out.
And they even have enough money to buy OUR players as a marketing campaign to wage war out our heartlands.

But no.

The NRL is healthier than its ever been.


Congrats. You gave a link which is a puff piece FROM THE PEOPLE DOING THE ACTUAL BID. Do you think they will say "oh, we stuffed up, were using a brand name thats already been used elsewhere and is synonymous with another football club"
Even the NRL wasnt amused by the bid name. If the HEAD HONCHO who is an ACTUAL LAWYER isnt happy with the name choice as HES worried about lawsuits not on the off chance that the AFL win, but because this offers the AFL another free shot at another marketing campaign against the NRL.


Im not claiming NRL is on the slide. Im simply stating everything isnt as gravy as you claim it to be.
The NRL isnt better or worse off than they have been in ages.
Claiming otherwise doesnt make it so.

I see. The people lodging the bid calling the side 'The Bombers' are giving us 'puff pieces' in the face of legal action?

So they are just going to go ahead and be successfully sued?

Oh silly me. So Essendon owns the name 'Bombers'!.

Well that bid is stuffed then isn't it!

Vale the Bombers.

M2D2 knows all!

You twerp.

 

[HowHigh]

If souths get anything short of 15k this weekend thats piss poor

 

[elbusto]

Here is a 'puff piece' by the Australian;
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...drop-in-to-drama/story-e6frg7mf-1226094160525
Brisbane Bombers drop in to drama

• Brent Read, Rugby league
• From: The Australian
• July 14, 2011 12:00AM

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THEY haven't even secured a place in the NRL yet but the Brisbane consortium bidding to enter the premiership in 2013 is already ruffling feathers with its choice of name -- the Bombers.

Essendon Bombers chief executive Ian Robson yesterday confirmed he would pass the matter on to AFL lawyers for their consideration once the name and logo were officially unveiled, with an announcement scheduled in Brisbane today.
While the AFL is unlikely to have any legal recourse, the decision to adopt the Bombers moniker won't please the Brisbane arm of Essendon's supporter group, also called the Brisbane Bombers.
Bid chief Craig Davison confirmed he was aware of the supporter group but stressed his consortium had gone through the correct channels.
"We looked at that," he said. "We have the company name, the domain name."
The Brisbane Bombers Rugby League Football Club Pty Ltd was registered with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission on February 25. It's business name was registered with ASIC on July 5.
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• Ipswich team takes its case to Nine The Australian, 6 days ago
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• Bombers target Karmichael Hunt FoxSports, 21 Jul 2011
• Karmichael Hunt's tug-of-war Adelaide Now, 20 Jul 2011

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Bombers, one of 15 names put forward, was selected after a competition run in conjunction with a Brisbane radio station.
"Is this an attempt to trigger conflict?" Robson said, tongue in cheek. "Maybe it's a form of flattery. We're not concerned. If there was any action, it would need to come from the AFL as they own the intellectual properties of the clubs such as colours, logos and names.
"We haven't seen their logo. Obviously the lawyers will look at it once we know what it is."
While the Brisbane consortium has been the most aggressive of the NRL hopefuls, they are not the only bidders aiming for 2013. Perth, Wellington, central Queensland, the NSW central coast, Papua New Guinea and a combined Ipswich-Toowoomba consortium are also in the mix.
A final decision will fall to the independent commission, expected to take over the running of the game in the near future. However, expansion is unlikely to take place before 2014.
Meanwhile, Queensland coach Mal Meninga declined to comment when confronted by the media at a charity function in Brisbane yesterday. He has until today to respond to requests for an apology from the NRL match review committee over a column in which he claimed they were part of a conspiracy to end the Maroons' supremacy.

 

[M2D2]

I see. The people lodging the bid calling the side 'The Bombers' are giving us 'puff pieces' in the face of legal action?

So they are just going to go ahead and be successfully sued?

Oh silly me. So Essendon owns the name 'Bombers'!.

Well that bid is stuffed then isn't it!

Vale the Bombers.

M2D2 knows all!

You twerp.

Theres more to a successful courtroom battle than the precedent of COLOURS and ANIMALS.
Then youve also got to take in consideration of brand names, which The Essendon bombers ARE.
Go out on the street and say the word "Bombers" Or "Essendon" and they will reply with the other one.

I dont claim to know all.
But im not just repeating what the media is telling me either.

If souths get anything short of 15k this weekend thats piss poor

Agreed. Pity its gonna rain like a motherf**ker.

 

[Snappy]

Dont see what all this crap has to do with 2011 crowd watch.

 

[BunniesMan]

If souths get anything short of 15k this weekend thats piss poor

We won't.

But the only concern is the weather. If it's pouring we'll obviously be hurt (forecast doesn't look too flash).

 

[Raiderdave]

Not in sydney it wasnt.
With how many games ive been to both this year and last.
Last winter was much wetter.
PNG league has less money than Cronulla does. So yeah. They are in a MUCH better position.
Swans didnt breach, but Carlton sure did and they copped it so bad they were f**ked for SEASONS. not just the season they cheated with.
If the NRL were as serious as the AFL were about it, Melbourne wouldnt be in the position they are today.
You can claim they wouldnt do it if it happened to Sydney. But thats purely hypothetical and moot.

Singular incident? They have been going all season and not just this season but EVERY season. They never stop.
The only joy is that Weve had gangbangs, rape, glassings, assaults in toilets in the pasts.
Thats such a great improvement by the league that now were just down to DUI's and Assaults in houses now.

The NRL cant make up TV numbers. but they can and sure have cooked up attendance numbers this year.
Cover a loss of support?
Are you brain dead?
Weve had clubs all year long cook up numbers to hide dwindling numbers. So your giving Cronulla shit for NOT covering it all up?
Wow. Youre looking excuses everywhere to try and talk up the game while your points are actually putting the state of the league DOWN.

Dogs havent had a better season. So you talking up hypothetical again doesnt help you.
You claiming the league is doing so great but looking for bullshit numbers if certain clubs were doing better they would be doing better.
But they are not.
Theyre attendances are dwindling as well.

AFL are going great guns.
They make more money per year than we do.
Theyre attendance figures outshine ours year in year out.
And they even have enough money to buy OUR players as a marketing campaign to wage war out our heartlands.

But no.

The NRL is healthier than its ever been.


Congrats. You gave a link which is a puff piece FROM THE PEOPLE DOING THE ACTUAL BID. Do you think they will say "oh, we stuffed up, were using a brand name thats already been used elsewhere and is synonymous with another football club"
Even the NRL wasnt amused by the bid name. If the HEAD HONCHO who is an ACTUAL LAWYER isnt happy with the name choice as HES worried about lawsuits not on the off chance that the AFL win, but because this offers the AFL another free shot at another marketing campaign against the NRL.


Im not claiming NRL is on the slide. Im simply stating everything isnt as gravy as you claim it to be.
The NRL isnt better or worse off than they have been in ages.
Claiming otherwise doesnt make it so.

again
so your take on this is to critisise the NRL for doing ....what they do .. & claim if they do ... then its a pointer to the NRL .. not going so well :sarcasm:

the rantings of a moron
plain n simple

your club is a joke
the NRL is not

don't get the 2 mixed up
K ... theres a good escaped mental patient ;-)

 

[M2D2]

Dont see what all this crap has to do with 2011 crowd watch.

Absolutely nothing apart from the fact this whole argument started when Raidersdave started giving the cronulla numbers shit while claiming how well the NRL and The Raiders are doing after getting a 12k attendance on a BEAUTIFUL Sunday Arvo.
Apart from the Absolutely f**king nothing.

elbusto. That article at least from my point of view didnt sound like the AFL has no case to stand on. So i fail to see how its the "argument breaker" you claim it is.

 

[elbusto]

Theres more to a successful courtroom battle than the precedent of COLOURS and ANIMALS.
Then youve also got to take in consideration of brand names, which The Essendon bombers ARE.
Go out on the street and say the word "Bombers" Or "Essendon" and they will reply with the other one.

I dont claim to know all.
But im not just repeating what the media is telling me either.


Agreed. Pity its gonna rain like a motherf**ker.

I am not sure whether you are just plain stupid or flaming. Alternatively you are a troll. And yes you are repeating what the media is telling you. You are repeating what the AFL media is telling you.

I think I am wasting my time here.

Logic dictates you cannot own a name like 'the Bombers' when there are literally dozens of Clubs that already own it.

Time will tell. And you are wrong.

 

[elbusto]

again
so your take on this is to critisise the NRL for doing ....what they do .. & claim if they do ... then its a pointer to the NRL .. not going so well :sarcasm:

the rantings of a moron
plain n simple

your club is a joke
the NRL is not

don't get the 2 mixed up
K ... theres a good escaped mental patient ;-)

This guy makes Incest from TFC look like Einstein Raider.

 

[M2D2]

I am not sure whether you are just plain stupid or flaming. Alternatively you are a troll. And yes you are repeating what the media is telling you. You are repeating what the AFL media is telling you.

I think I am wasting my time here.

Logic dictates you cannot own a name like 'the Bombers' when there are literally dozens of Clubs that already own it.

Time will tell. And you are wrong.

Im not trolling. Im not flaming. So i must be plain stupid or im just listening to the AFL media...right in the middle of Sydney where they get sweet f**k all coverage just like how much the NRL gets outside of Sydney and Brisbane.

Dozens of clubs own the bombers eh? If you look at google. A HUGE percentage of these clubs that use the bombers name, Have a look at their colours...more importantly what code do these teams play? Oh thats right. Its AFL.
Who owns the rights to Bombers name?
Oh Yeah. The AFL.

again
so your take on this is to critisise the NRL for doing ....what they do .. & claim if they do ... then its a pointer to the NRL .. not going so well :sarcasm:

the rantings of a moron
plain n simple

your club is a joke
the NRL is not

don't get the 2 mixed up
K ... theres a good escaped mental patient ;-)

Im sorry, are you under the assumption that what you just posted was a well rounded and well thought out point?

 

[elbusto]

Im not trolling. Im not flaming. So i must be plain stupid or im just listening to the AFL media...right in the middle of Sydney where they get sweet f**k all coverage just like how much the NRL gets outside of Sydney and Brisbane.

Dozens of clubs own the bombers eh? If you look at google. A HUGE percentage of these clubs that use the bombers name, Have a look at their colours...more importantly what code do these teams play? Oh thats right. Its AFL.
Who owns the rights to Bombers name?
Oh Yeah. The AFL.

You silly idiot. They do not own the rights to the name 'The Bombers' They are the 'Essendon Bombers'. There is a huge difference.

And if you really do live in Sydney then please do not tell me 'everybody' associates the word Bombers with Essendon and vice versa.

FFS mate please show at least an ounce of intelligence.

Why am I bothering with this twit?

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

You silly idiot. They do not own the rights to the name 'The Bombers' They are the 'Essendon Bombers'. There is a huge difference.

And if you really do live in Sydney then please do not tell me 'everybody' associates the word Bombers with Essendon and vice versa.

FFS mate please show at least an ounce of intelligence.

Why am I bothering with this twit?

Bored?

Incest is missing in action?