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Crowd Watch 2014 part 3

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user_nat

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This comp is no hope at ever averaging more than 16k if 2 top 4 Sydney teams can't get 20k in perfect weather.
 

miguel de cervantes

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Nah but it helps.

Took the gf to her first NRL game (she's English). Her first comment was "why is everyone so fat?". Looking around in the crowd it was full of typical aussie bogans.

A night in the members at the swans is more "event". We usually hang around in the bar for an hour or two after the game with a couple of hundred others. Mates have picked up numerous times there. (Just re read this, sounds like we sip pimms and lemonade lol. We basically just sit in the bar and drink full strength and watch the game sometimes).

Intersting observation, there is definitely some truth here. I get the feeling that sport in the eastern suburbs is much more of a social thing. Crowds float between Swans/Waratahs/Roosters depending on form and whoever is the in-thing at the time. I'm convinced there is significant overlap between the three clubs. People are more inclined to follow their friends rather than any convinction to a certain team.

Further west and in league in general, people go to the footy primarily to watch the football, not to flutter between the stand and the bar. Lesser population density and difficulty in getting around would also influence this.

The length of an AFL game with associated breaks and the higher, more frequent scoring is also more condusive to socialising and the event feel. Same goes for cricket and I would imagine basketball. Soccer and league you don't want to miss a goal or try as they are more rare and important to the scheme of the game. You want to be in your seat watching the game.

It's something the NRL could look into - increasing the socialising aspect of going to the game. Homebush is obviously a disaster in this respect. It's cavenous, it's hard to get to and away from and outside the ground it is the pits. You only go there if you really want to watch the game, and if the game is not of great importance, why bother? Go to a pub or stay at home and watch on telly.
 
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miguel de cervantes

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All the whinging and whining and talk of crowd experts etc. in the world will not change sydney league crowds an iota.

If the NSW government want a consolidation of Sydney stadia, it would be in the interests of the ARLC to neogtiate and contribute to the building of a 30,000 to 40,000 seat central-western Sydney stadium

- in an existing lively, safe hub area with restaurants and shops
- with excellent, converging transport links
- a stadium with good socialising facilities and inexpensive food and drink options

serving Penrith, Tigpies, Paramatta, Canterbury and the Wanderers. That's five significant clients, more than any other stadium in Australia excepting the MCG and Ethiad.

In Parramatta is by far the most logical answer here, on the site of Parra stadium and the next door oval and field, or better still in Parramatta Park. It's almost a no-brainer. You have cityrail lines from Penrith, the SouthWest and the Inner West as well as the North all converging here, reataurants, a geographic center of city. The government has a real interest to invest here in something significant.

Souths, St George and Easts would all play out of the SFS. Manly have little option but to stay at Brookvale, any move will kill them. Cronulla may be in the same boat.

Do this and it is almost an optimal setup for NRL crowds in Sydney.
 
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Top of the table and can't sell out a suburban ground what gives manly fans. No excuses with a team on top. Embarrassing night for the nrl to be upstage on the same night by the swans, shameful.
 

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Further to the above, if the government want a consolidation of Sydney stadia, it would be in the interests of the ARLC to neogtiate the building of a central-western Sydney stadium

- in an existing lively, safe hub area with restaurants and shops
- with excellent transport links
- a stadium with good socialising facilities and inexpensive food and drink options

serving Penrith, Tigpies, Paramatta, Canterbury and the Wanderers.

In Parramatta is the most logical answer here.

Souths, St George and Easts would all play out of the SFS. Manly have little option but to stay at Brookvale, any move will kill them. Cronulla may be in the same boat.
Totally agree with this. Given the size of Sydney you need 4 major stadium with a minimum 30000 capacity. You have 3 codes who can share them.

It cannot be that hard.

But any thought of doing the Victorian thing and having only two is pointless.
 
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