Crowd Watch 2014

[Cumberland Throw]

AFL premiers played in front of 12,000 ... with about 8,000 empty seats...

But will the herald sun / news say anything about it..

Doubt it

 

[t-ba]

But that's not the argument in this case, it's about crowds etc, which Souths have been doing better than Manly.

I Know t-ba mentions it alot but Manly's support really got drilled more than most by the Super League war/failed merger, and now Brookvales capacity seems to get less and less they don't get the same crowds they used to there either. It does present a problem for them because, in its current state, Brookvale won't last forever, but they've become increasingly insular in their travelling support as well. Somethings going to give at some point, and it just seems unlikely that the sort of money that Brookvale needs spent on it will ever really become available

The signs are good on all fronts bar matchday.

I've long predicted the eventual Sunshine Coast relocation but I can't see it happening anymore. At worst we'll move to the SFS, which wouldn't be that bad because plenty of families that used to be regular to the ground 20 years ago have gotten used to travelling to the SCG precinct for Swans and Waratahs matches and might be tempted back. I think the comparative quality of the match day experience and the more competitive pricing really hurts Brookvale when competing for these mulch-confessional fans.

Ideally, Brookvale would get refurbed, but that's probably unlikely. As it stand, we're on a sound enough footing not to worry about it yet. Things might change as we rebuild however.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Personally, I don't want another cent of taxpayers money spent on footy grounds...but seriously, Brookvale needs it. Build a proper stadium and soon. Otherwise no team on north shore to Newcastle if they cark it!

 

[DC_fan]

9,636 in Canberra

 

[beave]

On 2GB today they interviewed the Manly CEO and 90% of the chat revolved around Brookie. The ground needs $30mil spent on it, well this is what they want at this stage (could be more later on down the track). $10mil has been promised by Abbott so they need to find the remaining $20mil. They are looking at all sorts of initiatives to try an entice other codes (Union, baseball, concerts) and general public related events to try and justify the amount being needed. The CEO has recognised the 10 Manly home games probably doesn't justify that sort of money being spent on the ground but he seems to be wanting to do everything in his power to keep the the team in Manly and not go anywhere else, bar the odd Gosford game. They are even looking at things like allowing cooking classes to be held in their corporate kitchens to try and diversify the use of the ground.

Good shit imo, the team needs to stay in Manly and the fans deserve better facilities than what they currently have.

 

[Big Sam]

Rd1 VFL crowds down 13k from Rd1 last year (40,652 vs. 27,256). Will there be as big a deal made about it as the NRL's Rd1 crowds?

 

[georgesnmith]

14,138 at the Manwee game,good job Manwee you almost got more than what the wooden spooners got last week(whilst we played against an out of town team)

Manwee Sea Plods

looked like 18k

hard to tell how they can fit in 6k more

 

[seanoff]

Rd1 VFL crowds down 13k from Rd1 last year (40,652 vs. 27,256). Will there be as big a deal made about it as the NRL's Rd1 crowds?

no. and for good reason.

the fixture in 2013 had two absolute blockbusters, Rich v Carlton and Hawks v Geelong, a WA Derby, and a decent rivalry Adel v Ess.

this year just about the only game anyone was really interested in was North v Essendon. while also having the MCG, GABBA, SCG and AO unavailable. so they couldn't schedule the big blockbusters anyway.

the next 2 rounds will see crowds that the NRL would kill for. Ess v Carl, Ess v Haw, Adl v Port, Haw v Freo, Adl v Ess, rich v carl, Syd v Coll.

it was a deliberate ploy by the AFL to start the season early to get press coverage not necessarily crowds and to allow 2 byes for all teams.

and yet the average is still close to double the NRL. it's not a good look to compare the crowds between the two from a NRL POV. the AFL will win and by some margin, all the time.

discuss the attendances in the NRL. the only time the AFL should come up is as an aiming point.

 

[Rodney]

no. and for good reason.

the fixture in 2013 had two absolute blockbusters, Rich v Carlton and Hawks v Geelong, a WA Derby, and a decent rivalry Adel v Ess.

this year just about the only game anyone was really interested in was North v Essendon. while also having the MCG, GABBA, SCG and AO unavailable. so they couldn't schedule the big blockbusters anyway.

the next 2 rounds will see crowds that the NRL would kill for. Ess v Carl, Ess v Haw, Adl v Port, Haw v Freo, Adl v Ess, rich v carl, Syd v Coll.

it was a deliberate ploy by the AFL to start the season early to get press coverage not necessarily crowds and to allow 2 byes for all teams.

and yet the average is still close to double the NRL. it's not a good look to compare the crowds between the two from a NRL POV. the AFL will win and by some margin, all the time.

discuss the attendances in the NRL. the only time the AFL should come up is as an aiming point.

But the principle is the same tho.
this season's round 1 had neither a brisbane nor eden park fixture.
Yet the media has making a ruckus about how this is the worst round 1 since 2003. from 2003 onward there has either been a brisbane fixture or an eden park fixture (or both).

And the media conveniently forgot to mention that this season's opening round had neither... oops.

Its rediculous how unfounded these crowd concerns are, and how the NRL in particular has been targeted for what has been a mediocre start.
Not great,
But definitely a not bad start.

 

[georgesnmith]

no. and for good reason.

the fixture in 2013 had two absolute blockbusters, Rich v Carlton and Hawks v Geelong, a WA Derby, and a decent rivalry Adel v Ess.

this year just about the only game anyone was really interested in was North v Essendon. while also having the MCG, GABBA, SCG and AO unavailable. so they couldn't schedule the big blockbusters anyway.

the next 2 rounds will see crowds that the NRL would kill for. Ess v Carl, Ess v Haw, Adl v Port, Haw v Freo, Adl v Ess, rich v carl, Syd v Coll.

it was a deliberate ploy by the AFL to start the season early to get press coverage not necessarily crowds and to allow 2 byes for all teams.

and yet the average is still close to double the NRL. it's not a good look to compare the crowds between the two from a NRL POV. the AFL will win and by some margin, all the time.

discuss the attendances in the NRL. the only time the AFL should come up is as an aiming point.

so no you cant compare the lower crowds from this year to last, but anyway they are still higher than the nrl.

excellent rebuttal Vlad.

 

[Panther_Daz]

Weather permitting Friday night's games should get minimum 40k between them.

 

[Brutus]

AFL round 1 crowds are alarmingly down.

FACT.

If it's good enough for the NRL to cop it then it's good enough for the fumbleball.

 

[guyver78]

So what were the final crowds at all grounds?

 

[BunniesMan]

AFL round 1 crowds are alarmingly down.

FACT.

If it's good enough for the NRL to cop it then it's good enough for the fumbleball.

Twisting stats out of context does nothing to help the NRL. The NRL fixtures for this round 1 were more or less like for like compared to round 1 last year. The amount of "blockbusters" was about the same. That wasn't the case for this years round 1 in the AFL.

 

[oikee]

The NRL will keep going backwards while it tries to prop up clubs like Manly and sharks. They will never grow the game or help grow the game. I mean 14,? 15 thousand.
They need to get rid of the name Manly for a start. You cant grow the game by subjecting yourself to a little peninsula.
You wont grow, you will never grow. The club cant produce real cash, they have had 10 years of luxury at the top of the comp and still need government handouts to improve a ground that as someone mentioned, can only be used for 10 dopey ref biased games a year.
Keeping Manly is a way of saying a business does not want to grow or move forward, even Abbott cant help Manly on this one, and throwing 10 million into a basket is like throwing 10 million into the ocean, a waste. Where is Manly's money, ? they have none.
Why would the government waste 30 million on Manly for 15 thousand crowds, when they could be building a 55 thousand stadium in Parramatta for 3 to 4 teams and huge derbies in this area.
Time the game woke up and started to act like a true business, not a micky mouse Abbott come lately.

Trying to keep Manly alive is only gong to prolong the eventual merge of this club with the Central coast.

 

[Flapper]

Twisting stats out of context does nothing to help the NRL. The NRL fixtures for this round 1 were more or less like for like compared to round 1 last year. The amount of "blockbusters" was about the same. That wasn't the case for this years round 1 in the AFL.

That's exactly what they did for our round 1. What's good for the goose etc etc.

 

[elbusto]

The AFL round one attendances were the lowest since 1995 - that might some perspective around everything at the moment. Mind you the media would not have a clue as it is not NRL.

And, as a bit more of a perspective, their round one attendance was 120000 down on last year.

Yes that is correct.

 

[BunniesMan]

Compare our round 1 games this year with last year. They're mostly like for like. So it's not the same at all.

 

[BunniesMan]

The AFL round one attendances were the lowest since 1995 - that might some perspective around everything at the moment. Mind you the media would not have a clue as it is not NRL.

And, as a bit more of a perspective, their round one attendance was 120000 down on last year.

Yes that is correct.

And their round 2 numbers will be above last years round 2 numbers by about that much. Their early fixtures are drastically different this year compared to last. That is not the case with the NRL. We're comparing apples and oranges.

 

[elbusto]

And their round 2 numbers will be above last years round 2 numbers by about that much. Their early fixtures are drastically different this year compared to last. That is not the case with the NRL. We're comparing apples and oranges.

No we are not and stop making pathetic excuses.

Carlton and Collingwood had poorly attended round one fixtures.

The AFL's first round crowds are the lowest in a couple of decades. And they were down 120000 on last year and similarly for about ten years before.

It is a horror start you bloody peanut.

I some times wonder why people simply cannot stand you.

At times like this it is very obvious.