Jesbass
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...it's just a game.
I beg your pardon?!? :crazy:
...it's just a game.
...it's just a game.
You've got it wrong Mick. Dubopov isn't deluded, he just sees things differently to you. He doesn't push his opinion on others (how can you on the internet lol?), just states his own strongly.
Granted, he swears and carries on, and if your complaint is about that you'd get no argument. It's a fact.
Big Mick,
The thing is that people from the outside are all viewing this as a one-off incident where Dubopov has thrown his toys out of his playpen, and the rest of us are simply blindly backing him to the hilt.
In reality, this is not a one-off .. we have had discussions, both in our Locker Room and also on the Jubilee Avenue forum (a forum accessible to a number of members of the Bluebags team), since mid-last year, once we started feeling that we were being marked harshly in comparison to the established sides, even though we felt that our articles (not just one or two) were generally of a higher standard than those of our opponents.
I was going to quit at the end of last season because I was so upset with some of the marking that had gone on - not specifically for my articles, but for others in the team as well. Dubopov convinced me to stay.
This is not the result of a one-off incident, but rather the result of a festering feeling of discontent. We started this season optimistic that things might change, thinking that our decent showing in our first year would have earned more respect .. but all it took was one week to see that, despite virtually everyone who has now read the thread and spoken about it believing that the Dragons at the least shaded the Titans, we still lost by an average of about 2 marks per piece. Obviously this has all centred on one very public example of where we feel we were treated harshly, but you need to see this as symptomatic of a wider, and much deeper, issue from the point of view of our team. For us, this is not - and has never been - about one article or one referee.
On your last point about enjoying the game, our team has by and large lost the ability to enjoy the game due to the year-long issues we have been experiencing .. being told by others to simply suck it up and deal with whatever the referee gives you would arguably be a fair enough statement if we felt the opposition was getting marked as harshly as we were, but it does not ring true in our opinions. And with no system available for review, we are left feeling that we are being told "You may have written an article deserving 95, but the referee only gave you 59. And your opponent may have written an article deserving 59, but he got awarded 95. The game is about fun, just deal with it!" From the standpoint of most, that is not an environment fostering enjoyment.
Finally, I would just like to say that I am saddened and somewhat upset to see relations soured between some of my team-members and Non_Terminator .. we felt he was the only referee last year who marked our articles fairly (and we said this knowing that we had received higher marks from other referees in different rounds), and he was our unanimous choice for Referee of the Year in voting for the Awards night.
I believe that the reactions from some of my teammates to what was unfortunately a slightly ill-considered post on his part (given the circumstances) earlier in this thread were merely the result of the frustration they felt this evening, and were not meant to hurt him.
I was there too. Hope that helps.
Now I get it .. It's about the MVP thing .. quite frankly, I didn't even recall who was involved in that MVP discussion .. but now that I know it was you Jessbass, things fall into place.
Now now, you're not telling all the truth there dubo - again.thanks drewsta .. i told the people in charge i would be available to Ref every Round .. I hadn't been picked because apparently players reffing was perceived as a problem.. even though virtually every Ref is a current player ..
And I offered last year and re-newed my offer this year but haven't had so much as a nibble yet then again there could well be extentuating circumstances such as there hasn't been a need so far.
Hey Willow... I'll mark yours if you'll mark mine
Now now, you're not telling all the truth there dubo - again.
I put up my hand as ref this year too but haven't been picked yet. I have no issues with that and only offered in case the comp was short on ref numbers.
Did you want to be a ref becuase you saw it as some position of power?
Anyway, I thought you quit the F7s. So I'll ask again, yes or no?