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Eagles - Eels Quick post match analysis

Gronk

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We are playing above our weight ATM. Comparing the two teams I think that the difference was that their extreme edges were far superior. Especially Judas and Wolfman. To a lesser extent Matai & Robinson, but they were better than either of our pairs.

Both our wingers are impotent and offer nothing but pop gun attack.

Special mention to Loko. He's stood up against Gaz & Judas and done us proud. TBH I'm a little disappointed that he's not that sharpo off the mark like the Gaz & Judas. Hope that he can find some zip over 15m.

Carl Webb impressed me in the past Wenty games I have seen on the box, but doesn't have the vigour (yet) for NRL. I think that Reni & Justin Poore's return might push Carl out of the game.
 
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We are playing above our weight ATM. Comparing the two teams I think that the difference was that their extreme edges were far superior. Especially Judas and Wolfman. To a lesser extent Matai & Robinson, but they were better than either of our pairs.

Both our wingers are impotent and offer nothing but pop gun attack.

Special mention to Loko. He's stood up against Gaz & Judas and done us proud. TBH I'm a little disappointed that he's not that sharpo off the mark like the Gaz & Judas. Hope that he can find some zip over 15m.

Carl Webb impressed me in the past Wenty games I have seen on the box, but doesn't have the vigour (yet) for NRL. I think that Reni & Justin Poore's return might push Carl out of the game.

Loko has
More top end speed similar to Grothe.
 

Maroubra Eel

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I haven't read through this thread so not sure if it's been mentioned but I reckon Hayne is lazy and cost us the match.
 

yy_cheng

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I haven't read through this thread so not sure if it's been mentioned but I reckon Hayne is lazy and cost us the match.

wtf me? u r supposed to read the whole thread before posting. nothing post. u are just repeating what others have said
 

eel01s

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Top effort from the boys - I for one will be happy if they put in like that each game for the rest of the year.

Although we were unlucky to lose you have to say that we let Manly score too many soft tries. IMO Loko was great in attack but his edge was shown up in defence too many times.

I really don't want to bag anyone though, it was an excellent team effort. Had they played like this earlier in the year we would have had more wins.
 

Haynzy

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The thing I noticed with Webb was that he was mis-timing his runs and was in front of the dummy half when he should have been receiving the ball.
Whether it's Webb's fault or poor dummy half service or too slow play the balls I'm not sure.
With a couple of weeks in firsts here's hoping that will improve.
 

BigErn

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I see absolutely no promise in Ryan Morgan.
He adds nothing to the team.
The lines that guy runs exemplify his ineptitude.
Any other centre would have scored 3 or 4 tries last night running off Hayne.
I would much prefer Chris Walker.
And that's saying a lot because I reckon Walker is useless.
Ryan Morgan is another Ash Graham.
 

ianlovesparra

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Bring in Reni, Webb just doesnt offer anything.

Give Humble a go, he's more creative then Robson.

Get rid of Morgan and just replace him with whoever, he is a poor defender, just gets domminated in tackles and has added bombing tries to his bag of tricks, seriously give walker filiga or hicks a go, they can't be any worse then Morgan, and at least they run better lines and are more agressive, morgan just offers nothing, don't know what Kearney sees in him.
 

Tin Man 4.24

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I haven't read through this thread so not sure if it's been mentioned but I reckon Hayne is lazy and cost us the match.
LOL. You forgot to mention that we miss Grothe's line speed, that Webb offers nothing, Morgan should be dropped and Reni should come into the side.
 

DeanPay98

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Good performance by the team. Things are looking very good for 2012 when we get Sandow and Roberts. I think Maguire and Keating are carrying a heavy load and it would be good to see how things go next year when we have a hooker rotation. (I hope we keep Maguire).

Hayne was magnificent. He has copped some ill-informed criticism.

On another note, I don't think that there is a secret signing. I think our top 25 for 2012 is more or less sorted if Maguire and Humble stay.
 

Delboy

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We need outside backs, both wingers are replaceable, we lost overall becuase Stewart and Williams killed us with speed.

The requirement is backs with some real speed, the centres did Ok, forwards basically outplayed the highly rated Moanly pack, Robbo is rocks and diamonds but doesnt contribute when we need to finish a set and he is under pressure. and no speed.

Burt and Atkins would struggle to get a long run at NRL level at most clubs, we need to make that position a priority, Allgood stepped up again, Lassalo went better I think than most give him credit for

Speed is the real need
 

Bigfella

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And power mate. The outside backs lack the ability to beat a tackle; to force their way over the line; to force a roll on with momentum; and to get quick play the balls and set up a set of six.

It is killing us. We could have won all those games in the last month with proper first grade standard wingers.
 

Delboy

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Luke will be under massive pressure next year with Sandow as a goalkicker, last night showed up his downside when he kicks poorly
 

Gronk

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And power mate. The outside backs lack the ability to beat a tackle; to force their way over the line; to force a roll on with momentum; and to get quick play the balls and set up a set of six.

It is killing us. We could have won all those games in the last month with proper first grade standard wingers.

As much as Atikins is capable under the high ball, he is very ordinary in attack. f**k me he's 6ft 5 and 98kgs and hits the ball up like my mum.
 

oldmancraigy

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Hayne should get none of the blame for that last try.

He wasn't out of position at all.
In fact, he was exactly where he was supposed to be - making sure Williams was covered in case he got through the line.

The kick was just a good one.
9 times out of 10 Williams would probably kick it dead, or to a Parra player, but tonight it just went where Manly needed it to go.
There probably should have been some cover for the kick on the inside from some other Parra players, but Hayne shouldn't have been one of them.

Very arsey kick!

Hayne was over covering the break (where he should be)

Moi Moi was the one 'slacking off' - he was the closest chaser and didn't sprint to the ball.
But would anyone ever seriously expect that of the big guy? Even if he sprinted he might not have got there.

Just unlucky that the kick somehow managed to stay in.
 

Springs

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Not much harm comes from not looking, either.
It's called peripheral vision. Not many players have the talent. Not many other people know what it is.
It's an extraordinary gift...............and Hayne has the gift.




Suity

Yeah actually quite a few times last night his no look passes went to nobody. Before they have gone right over the sideline. Marshall is another player who does them and they don't always come off either.

But I guess Hayne is invincible and every mistake he makes wasn't his fault. Sorry I forgot I'm not allowed to criticise him.
 

Springs

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Very arsey kick!

Hayne was over covering the break (where he should be)

Moi Moi was the one 'slacking off' - he was the closest chaser and didn't sprint to the ball.
But would anyone ever seriously expect that of the big guy? Even if he sprinted he might not have got there.

Just unlucky that the kick somehow managed to stay in.

McGuire was right next to Foran when Williams put the kick in. Foran sprinted, McGuire jogged. Sure he must have been stuffed but still, Foran just wanted it more.
 

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