Early tip: Sandow won't see out his contract

[Bigfella]

I've been critical of him but he has more to his game than that.

He has a dangerous running game albeit probably under uses it.

He also has a very good long kicking game. His short kicking game can also be good but can be poor.

He probably lacks the selective passing game which would make his running and kicking game more effective.

He also has far too big a difference between the good things I his game and the bad - a la benji Marshall.

 

[Gronk]

Triple M NRL ‏@TripleM_NRL 6m Sterlo reacts to Parra decision: "Realistically Chris Sandow has been poor for many, many weeks now."

 

[Avenger]

Triple M NRL ‏@TripleM_NRL 6m Sterlo reacts to Parra decision: "Realistically Chris Sandow has been poor for many, many weeks now."

What would he know. ;-)

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Maybe we can catch up at the game.

It's west of the Harbour Bridge mate, so you probably won't be there.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well your the one that said his one game in Wenty last year did he some good. Not me

No I said it would have done some good. Unfortunately fan and media pressure got Sandow back into first grade before he could benefit from it.

 

[Chipmunk]

He has built a career off intercepts, chip-and-chases and shoulder charges. He hasn't got anything apart from that. Flashes of individual brilliance don't make a halfback.

I thought it was unbelievable how many people thought he was our saviour. How anyone thought a Roberts/Sandow halves combination would get us off the bottom is beyond me.

I think you're being harsh, he can also kick the odd 40/20 once a month

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He has built a career off intercepts, chip-and-chases and shoulder charges. He hasn't got anything apart from that. Flashes of individual brilliance don't make a halfback.

Plenty of halfbacks make a career off flashes of individual brilliance. That's why a guy like Chris Sandow is able to play 100 NRL games by the age of 23.

He was Dally M Rookie of the Year in '08 and for the next three years his club outscored every other team in the NRL. If they scored that many points then they must have had some decent organisation.

If they missed the finals it wasn't because there was anything wrong with their attack.

I thought it was unbelievable how many people thought he was our saviour. How anyone thought a Roberts/Sandow halves combination would get us off the bottom is beyond me.

Roberts' '09 form was phenomenal, as was Sandow's 2011 form. Considering the 2011 Eels were only missing some spark and kicking around the halves (as well as a couple of outside backs), Roberts and Sandow were the best merkins available.

 

[Avenger]

No I said it would have done some good. Unfortunately fan and media pressure got Sandow back into first grade before he could benefit from it.

You don't know that. You weren't in the selection room with Kearney.

#frustratingisn'tit?

 

[Eels Dude]

You don't know that. You weren't in the selection room with Kearney.

#frustratingisn'tit?

This is Pou remember. He was probably was.

 

[Chipmunk]

Plenty of halfbacks make a career off flashes of individual brilliance. That's why a guy like Chris Sandow is able to play 100 NRL games by the age of 23.

He was Dally M Rookie of the Year in '08 and for the next three years his club outscored every other team in the NRL. If they scored that many points then they must have had some decent organisation.

If they missed the finals it wasn't because there was anything wrong with their attack.



Roberts' '09 form was phenomenal, as was Sandow's 2011 form. Considering the 2011 Eels were only missing some spark and kicking around the halves (as well as a couple of outside backs), Roberts and Sandow were the best merkins available.

Sandows previous exploits doesnt prove that in 2013 and beyond that Sandow has the same level of confidence as what he did at Souths back then, it doesnt provide any evidence that he will ever regain that level of confidence to be able to deliver that level of brilliance again or will ever be the best option for Parramatta as a No 7.

Jarryd Hayne was that good in 2009 he made every other player in the NRL look like they were playing in an Under 10's competition, but it still doesnt mean that he will ever be able to reproduce that kind of form again

 

[Springs]

Plenty of halfbacks make a career off flashes of individual brilliance. That's why a guy like Chris Sandow is able to play 100 NRL games by the age of 23.

He was Dally M Rookie of the Year in '08 and for the next three years his club outscored every other team in the NRL. If they scored that many points then they must have had some decent organisation.

If they missed the finals it wasn't because there was anything wrong with their attack.



Roberts' '09 form was phenomenal, as was Sandow's 2011 form. Considering the 2011 Eels were only missing some spark and kicking around the halves (as well as a couple of outside backs), Roberts and Sandow were the best merkins available.

They had the best pack in the comp and some excellent backs as well. In 09, 10 and 11 the thing they were missing was organisation. It was the reason why they looked so good but never made the finals. Enter a great coach and a good halfback and they're top 4 two years straight.

And that's not to mention Sandow's defence cost them a whole lot of tries as well.

I didn't say flashes of brilliance don't make a career, I said they don't make a good halfback. And Sandow is not a good halfback.

And Roberts being the best one available :lol: he was a reserve grader in 2011 and hasn't improved since. Sandow might have been the best half available (arguably) but that doesn't mean he was worth that much money.

 

[Someone]

Sandow will never win a comp.

Mark my words.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Sandow will never win a comp.

Mark my words.

Not while he is at Parramatta.

 

[Jake the snake]

I agree with Stuart Sandow needs a few games in reserves .... He's not a halfback. If he can better his Defence I'd try him t hooker with his running game. At least give it a shot. We can't lose as we're coming dead last.

 

[Avenger]

I agree with Stuart Sandow needs a few games in reserves .... He's not a halfback. If he can better his Defence I'd try him t hooker with his running game. At least give it a shot. We can't lose as we're coming dead last.

Before Griffin screwed it up Norman was going very well with Wallace last year in the halves. I would enquired re: Wallace and a possible swap for Sandow plus $$$. If not Hodkinson and Sam Williams in that order. Even Sterlo said that Sandow has been poor for many weeks as he was last year. He is such a dumb individualistic halfback with limited vision.

 

[born an eel]

Sandow will never win a comp.

Mark my words.

better players than him have not won a comp either,

your statement carries no weight on judging his ability

 

[Mr Angry]

I think you can have a halfback like Sandow, if and only if you have a Darren Lockyer outside him.

Still a shit defender but.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You don't know that. You weren't in the selection room with Kearney.

You're right I don't know that, which is why I made clear it was speculation.

We can only know for sure the things we see - what happens on the field. So when you say a player has no ability to organise I call bullshit because it's not something you're able to observe from the outside.

By all means criticise a player who defends poorly, but don't give us this 'can't organise' bullshit, when he has played in apparently well organised teams in the past.

I've already explained to you how teams on the back foot look disorganised no matter how good their playmakers are, because they don't have enough to time to make decisions. Case in point - Cronk and Thurston in Origin game 1, and Pearce and Maloney in game 2.

#frustratingisn'tit?

You tell me. I love your idiotic hyperbole because it allows me to clarify my point for those whose comprehension is so very poor that I wasn't able to anticipate it.

You're like a guinea pig, and I thank you for it.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sandows previous exploits doesnt prove that in 2013 and beyond that Sandow has the same level of confidence as what he did at Souths back then, it doesnt provide any evidence that he will ever regain that level of confidence to be able to deliver that level of brilliance again or will ever be the best option for Parramatta as a No 7.

You're right, but we're talking about his ability.

The fact is any player can lose confidence and never recover, and for spine players that is most likely behind a weak pack.

As long as we keep losing the ruck no merkin will be the "best option for Parramatta as a No 7".

Jarryd Hayne was that good in 2009 he made every other player in the NRL look like they were playing in an Under 10's competition, but it still doesnt mean that he will ever be able to reproduce that kind of form again

Does that mean we should f**k him off?

 

[DeanPay98]

I've been critical of him but he has more to his game than that.

He has a dangerous running game albeit probably under uses it.

He also has a very good long kicking game. His short kicking game can also be good but can be poor.

He probably lacks the selective passing game which would make his running and kicking game more effective.

He also has far too big a difference between the good things I his game and the bad - a la benji Marshall.

I am really glad that someone else has pointed out that Sandow has a great kicking game. It was something that was disasterously missing from our team in 2010 and 2011 when we had a genuine first grade forward pack.

Sandow has struggled with two things. First, he needs a dominant half playing alongside him. But in recent weeks he has had Joseph Paulo. I've stopped watching the games, because I can't stand that skip. Sandow has also been missing Hayne. Luke Kelly is inexperienced and he also hasn't been in first grade.

Second, our forward pack deteriorated under Kearney. Our hooker is substandard. The props are good, but Moi Moi is ageing. The back row is diabolical. Our best backrower this year was a 19 year old rookie. If it wasn't for Peni Terepo there'd be little hope.

Stuart has little to work with this year with Parra's roster. I'm not sure what I think of dropping Sandow, but for the Eels its always going to best to pick a half and stick with him.