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Eels Salary Cap MK IV

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hybrideel

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You must have missed the part where I said he would struggle to play any first grade with us. He obviously had a much better opportunity to play regular first grade with Newcastle.

I read that but took it more to mean that it meant he wasn't important to us. My mistake.
The point still remains that he is a Parra junior, probably has a lot of mates at the club and family lives here and was quite possibly told even though you just re-signed we don't need you now so find somewhere else
 

Eelementary

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Except they have already been banging on about the points deduction being us being over the cap. If we get under the cap, they can't take more points away, they have no justification to.

I actually believe Greenberg when he says that he wants to see us make the finals if we are good enough to get there. This theory that the NRL are going to "make sure we don't get to the finals" even going so far as to suggest they will rig our games by instructing refs to let other teams win is frankly absurd.

The NRL doesn't want the Finals tainted by a cheating team making an appearance - it's not a good look.

I would be very surprised if the NRL didn't have some sort of ace in the hole to prevent us from making the 8, and that's not a conspiracy - it's just good business sense.

Imagine if we win 12 from 15 - and made the Finals...the NRL would be the centre if attention for all the wrong reasons.

It's in their best interest to hint that we might play Finals, to make the spectacle more appealing - but ultimately, I dare say there is no chance in hell we play Finals in 2016, because the backlash would be immense.

How would people have felt if the Storm played Finals in 2010?
 

emjaycee

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If the Storm were fined $1m, made to shed 3 of their top 25 players, had 5 of their lying cheating merkin board and exec stood down and then won 12 from 15 to make the 8 - I would have felt fine with it.
 

El Diablo

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the NRL have been using the refs all year to try and make sure we don't make the finals

especially the bunker
 
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the NRL have been using the refs all year to try and make sure we don't make the finals

especially the bunker

yes yes you are right it's the media smear, Kents fault, Greenburg, Spags, fitzy, and now NRL bunker fault.
But not once do you mention the plumber lol

#goodgovernance
 

Poupou Escobar

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I've argued this about 200 pages ago. What you are saying is what i have already said but poo is right, no other teams do it unless they are lucky by getting one cheap due to a misdemeanor or they came from reserves or a kid who just blooms early

When you are tied up like that, gives you little room for fb and hooker

As i have said, Jennings will cause us salary cap headaches as he is not a spine playrrs but is on decent coin

So he is essentially using spine money

We did some good things likes semi, paulo, wicks, idg, Gordon, mau, teps all playing above their pay grade

However, our issue is if we don't sign norman and then foz goes. All thise players i mentioned above will be gone or would want more.

This year was our best chance if you ask me

Agreed. Jennings has been a great signing in the short term, but will surely be 'less good' in the long term.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...parramatta-eels-payments-20160510-gorul7.html

Reni Maitua, Cheyse Blair and Daniel Harrison received illegal Parramatta Eels payments

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May 10, 2016 - 10:00PM

Adrian Proszenko
Chief Rugby League Reporter

EXCLUSIVE

Reni Maitua, Cheyse Blair and Daniel Harrison are among the former Parramatta players alleged to have received extra payments above those disclosed to the NRL.

The trio are mentioned in the breach notice that the governing body has handed to the Eels as part of its investigations into salary cap rorts. The development marks the first time the names of players mentioned in the breach notice have been published. There is no suggestion the trio were complicit in cheating the system.

Maitua, Blair and Harrison were among about a dozen players deemed surplus to requirements by then-coach Ricky Stuart in 2013. It was one of the biggest cleanouts in the history of the blue and golds and the names of those deemed not part of the club's future were displayed to the playing group via an overhead projector.

Well-placed sources have told Fairfax Media the extra payments may have been provided as an inducement for some contracted players to leave.

The mass cleanout is viewed internally as the catalyst for the salary cap debacle the club currently finds itself in. Given the players were publicly labelled not up to first-grade standard, they were always going to be a hard sell to rival clubs.

The situation effectively left the Eels at the mercy of their player managers and the flow-on effects are viewed as one of the reasons Parramatta overspent the salary cap for five of their past six seasons. In 2014, the Eels had to shell out more than $750,000 to players no longer at the club as a result, with some of them playing against them at rival teams.

Following its probe, the NRL alleges the Eels have overspent by $3 million since 2012 via a number of illegal methods, including fictitious and inflated invoices, undisclosed third-party agreements and cash handouts.

Fairfax Media revealed in March that clothing provider Zibara was paid at least $80,000 for goods the club has no record of receiving, raising questions over whether players illegally benefited from the arrangement.

Zibara was one of the companies mentioned in an email from former Eels CFO Ed Farish to club officials which has been described as "the smoking gun" in the cap probe. That correspondence, along with damning audio recordings of board meetings, are among the key pieces of evidence that have brought the club undone.

Maitua, Harrison and Blair attempted to continue their footballing careers after leaving Parramatta with varying success. Maitua, a former NSW and Australian forward, was the highest profile of the so-called "dirty dozen" who were asked to move on.

The former Eels co-captain returned to former club Canterbury, where he was in and out of first grade before heading overseas. Harrison also returned to his former club, Manly, but made just one additional NRL appearance before also continuing his career in England.

Blair enjoyed a more fruitful stint at the Sea Eagles before he switched to Melbourne at the start of this season.

The Eels are now left with the challenge of becoming salary cap compliant before Friday's clash with South Sydney, with hooker Nathan Peats the man most likely to be squeezed out. They will then need to win 12 of their remaining games to have any chance of playing in the finals.

"I'm not going to lie, it's been tough after everything with the salary cap come out," said Eels backrower Tepai Moeroa. "It's been a real kick in the guts, but hopefully we can get under the cap and play for points this week."

Asked if the players were angry at the board for putting them into this situation, he said: "No, I don't think so. We've just got to worry about what we need to do as a team to go out there as a team and win our next 12 of 15. Yeah, the board made mistakes but there's nothing we can do."
 

Bigfella

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Maybe we can find a club greedy and stupid and incompetent enough to take him off our hands on an extended deal a year before his current deal expires?

A kind of Michael Jennings Ponzi scheme.
 

Mr Pmatta

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After reading all the outrage on here, I'm outraged now too.
Firstly I was selfish and only cared about us winning and maybe playing finals for the time in forever then I though about it and Nathan Peats is person, a father, a partner and has been treated like crap, basically chucked out on the street.
He moved his family out to the area and now he's told to look elsewhere because some maggots who tried to run the club did something dodgy to cheat just because they think, every club does it.f
Now I'm pissed that they have treated him like a piece of dirt.


But then again do we know the full story yet? No again we are just going of media reports at this stage.

Exactly we r only hearing one side thus far.
 

strider

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Im still struggling to see how all our cheating is adding up to $3m over 4 years .... all you ever hear is $80k here, $30k there ... most i've heard is watmoughs stuff adding up to $120k

People like reni n co arent gonna add up to 100s of thousands in cheating
 
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