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Eels seeking permission to cheat salary cap...

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Putting the Izzy situation to one side, my initial thoughts are that I don't have a problem with teams averaging their cap over two successive seasons, so long as they didn't break it by a set figure per year (say 5-10%).

Might help teams hold onto local juniors if they come out and have a boom first year (look at the trouble Manly had signing DCE when they had already had a maxed put cap for the following season). South could have the same problem with Reynolds, although the dogs should be able fit their Teynolda into their $10m cap.

Would also allow teams to make a big play on a marquee player for next year by making room in this years cap.

Regardless though, the Eels shouldn't be the only one to get the benefit of this kind of cap relief.
 

Galeforce

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No way this should be allowed. Eels should FREE some players or reduce current player contracts. They need to manage like any other team. Else past salary cap penalties will be unfair. How can anyone allow this to happen , i.e. Eel to compete with higher salary cap and then state that Storm won premierships unfairly .
 

BunniesMan

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This cannot be allowed to happen. If the Eels couldn't afford him properly they shouldn't have made the offer in the first place. They're not the only club in the comp. 8 others in Sydney and 15 others all up. There are plenty of choices.
 

natheel

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Has Schubert always put an estimated figure on players? I mean I think it's up to them what they want to sign for. Obviously the deal will be back ended and only a small amount will given to him next season to get him under the cap.

But if we have to she'd some blokes then so be it there are some guys there we could easily let go
 

Pierced Soul

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Also, what's Brett Finch being valued at for Melbourne next year? He's getting a good wage in the UK at the moment, and he's breaking a contract to come back I believe. Yet we can't sign Folau because Shubert has valued him at $400k.


i think there's a bit of difference between finch and folau in terms of "value"


The Gaz situation was a farce that shouldnt be allowed to happen again imo. It should not be used as a precedent to allow clubs to bend the cap. The eels and Izzy cant suck it up.

exactly. just becuase gallop rubber stamped it last time doesnt mean it was a good decision. i also wonder what dragons fans think as well given gasniers signing meant they lost J. Morris


They need to manage like any other team. Else past salary cap penalties will be unfair.

I think the bigger question is how the wooden spooners can be at the limit of their cap (or so close to it). they're a team full of nuffies. aside from Hayne and the overpriced sandow i'm not sure where the rest of their cap is being spent

the whole idea of a yearly salary cap gets mocked if this gets through. might as well start making the "premiers" being who wins the most games over a 2 year period to even it out. I personally don't care if folau comes back or not. he turned his abck on league to chase the $$. he allowed himself to be used as a weapon and marketing tool against the code that helped make him. I dont see why we should be making concessions for him to return
 

BunniesMan

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Has Schubert always put an estimated figure on players? I mean I think it's up to them what they want to sign for. Obviously the deal will be back ended and only a small amount will given to him next season to get him under the cap.

But if we have to she'd some blokes then so be it there are some guys there we could easily let go
Yep. There was a figure we couldn't go under to sign Inglis. Initially it was meant to be like 350k-700k-700k and he wouldn't allow that. I think the Eels are in a similar situation.
 

natheel

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This cannot be allowed to happen. If the Eels couldn't afford him properly they shouldn't have made the offer in the first place. They're not the only club in the comp. 8 others in Sydney and 15 others all up. There are plenty of choices.

Might be other choices but he only wants to play for eels
 

Eelementary

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You guys need to chill a bit - it's a nothing article. The NRL should not (and will not) allow this to happen.

My issue lies with the salary - if a bloke is willing to take peanuts (though $110k pa is hardly peanuts) in his first year, that should be his business. And I believe that should apply to every player - they should be able to sign for what they want, and not what the NRL tells them they're worth IMO.
 

Eelementary

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i think there's a bit of difference between finch and folau in terms of "value"




exactly. just becuase gallop rubber stamped it last time doesnt mean it was a good decision. i also wonder what dragons fans think as well given gasniers signing meant they lost J. Morris




I think the bigger question is how the wooden spooners can be at the limit of their cap (or so close to it). they're a team full of nuffies. aside from Hayne and the overpriced sandow i'm not sure where the rest of their cap is being spent

the whole idea of a yearly salary cap gets mocked if this gets through. might as well start making the "premiers" being who wins the most games over a 2 year period to even it out. I personally don't care if folau comes back or not. he turned his abck on league to chase the $$. he allowed himself to be used as a weapon and marketing tool against the code that helped make him. I dont see why we should be making concessions for him to return

We seemed to have handled contracts very poorly since Brian Smith and that guy who worked for the Sharks whose name escapes me ATM left us.
 

Jason Maher

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Which means he was registered at $55,000.

Gasnier, former Australian and Origin rep out of the game for two years = $55,000
Folau, former Australian and Origin rep out of the game for two years = $400,000

How does that work out?

The NRL changed the rules after Gasnier.
 

natheel

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i think there's a bit of difference between finch and folau in terms of "value"

One could argue izzy being out for 2 years would bring his value down especially with his body transformation. So he could be on less till he gains his form when he left

Like I said I don't think we should be allowed to do this but I think he will be in blue an gold next year. I reckon we will dump players this might be our last ditch effort (if true we actually asked to cheat) to put pressure on the nrl
 

Raiderdave

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If the NRL won't register his contract for 110K & insist he's worth 400K .. then I have no issue with Parra over spending next year .. & under in 2014 to get Izzy back into the NRL.

If hes going to be used against the AFL in Western Sydney the same way they used him against us , then its worth it.
big pictures if Izzy in a Parramatta Jersey from one end of the M4 to the other;-)
 
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DoggiesBro

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No way they can let this happen.

What a poor ran club. Trying something like that on screams of desperation.

Can't wait to Hoppas deal at 800k kicks in.
 

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